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I had the new pads fitted last week (and as promised by SUK it was done for free) I have had no sign of mooing so far so touch wood maybe the problem has been resolved

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hey guys and gals

sorry for seeming to be quite late in he mooing scenario, but picked up my 05 vRS octy 3 weeks ago. ok it may have done 80k, but for 6k can you go wrong?? anyways, got the 'mooing' happening now. sometimes loud, sometimes not so. you guys have been sayin skoda did different pads for it to solve the problem, other say aftermarket pads help. If skoda changed the size/makeup of the pad, does this mean aftermarket pads wont really help in he long run? Dont wanna buy red stuffs, if my octy is goona turn into a daisy

For the amount of times i reverse it doesnt bother me.

I have had the same problem, Skoda cured the mooing noise by fitting a modified rear brake part. The problem then was squeal when stopping driving forward.

Anyway I cured that by fitting pads off a VW Passat part no 3B0-698-451-A. these pads have a double sided 3M tape attached so there is no vibration and grease is not required (genuine VW part). Not only has it cured the noise but braking is much sharper too!

So in hindsight, I would fit the pads which cost

hey guys and gals

sorry for seeming to be quite late in he mooing scenario, but picked up my 05 vRS octy 3 weeks ago. ok it may have done 80k, but for 6k can you go wrong?? anyways, got the 'mooing' happening now. sometimes loud, sometimes not so. you guys have been sayin skoda did different pads for it to solve the problem, other say aftermarket pads help. If skoda changed the size/makeup of the pad, does this mean aftermarket pads wont really help in he long run? Dont wanna buy red stuffs, if my octy is goona turn into a daisy

Pad hysteresis issues reflect the makeup of the pad, both the friction material and the binder substances. So I know it's complex chemistry and mechanics, and I don't fully understand it. Hence my certainty that, since everyone has shown (either by admission or implication) that this is the problem, that a change in friction material will cure it.

The counter balance weights which were SUK's first attempt, did indeed cause squeeling whilst going forwards and braking.

The modified pads which they have since released do seem to solve the problem withouth any side effects. I bought a set on the day that they were released and have not had a moo since :D

The latest fix for the problem is indeed new pads. This will cure the mooing problem and the squealing caused by the first fix.

Skoda should replace the pads for you under warranty without any problems! (as long as the car's under warranty of course)

:)

as i said before Winchester Skoda fix mine it now longer moo's in either direction this was all done under warrenty.:)

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Sorry to resurrect such an old thread but does anyone have any details about the fix for this? Was there any code or reference for the email that went out to the dealers?

Mine is going in for it's main dealer service next month, it went in to have the mooing looked at earlier this year and they said they would fit new pads at the service but I feel if this is a known problem then it should be done under the warranty and I shouldn't have to pay extra for it.

Well the mooing is mostly due to the adjustment on the caliper internals on the cable not returning to from the applyed position which then allows the pads to vibrate creating the noise.

The Pads are from factory squared off ends on the pads but Lucas TRW who make them have superceeded that part to the chamfered edge p/no gdb1330 for the aftermarket at about

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Yeah thats what they told me, it needed to be fitted with chamfered edge pads... but it sounds like the real problem is that the caliper internals aren't right then? :rolleyes:

My brother's 2003 VRS was doing this. As a temporary fix, I smeared a little copper grease on the backplates and this seemed to do the trick. He did get the pads changed FOC, even though it was out of warranty.

Ive just bought new pads all round for mine from Skoda and got them fitted else where, i guess they wouldnt replace them for free =-(

:thumbup:If you fit EBC Green Stuff pads all our mooing noise problems will gone i have cured loads with this solution!!! Not only no moo but much improved braking to HAPPY DAYS :D

I didn't see the email my brother sent. I know it questioned why there was no recall and asked how SUK come to that conclusion. Rather than answer the question, they offered a FOC replacement as a 'goodwill gesture to a valued customer'.

EBC green didn't cure mine so put TRW on plus caliper and only heard it very faint a couple of times in 5 months before i got rid. I think if i replaced the cable i would've nver heard anything, but 99% cure is better than nothing.

just to say on this note that my dealer were not able to sort the prob for me. in the end(6 month)after buying the car new i decided to put some new grooved disks on the front and back to stop the squeekin in reverse. it worked once the pads had worn in.

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Well the mooing is mostly due to the adjustment on the caliper internals on the cable not returning to from the applyed position which then allows the pads to vibrate creating the noise.

The Pads are from factory squared off ends on the pads but Lucas TRW who make them have superceeded that part to the chamfered edge p/no gdb1330 for the aftermarket at about

Bodge can you keep me posted, I have to renew my rear brake discs and pads before xmas and I was going to ask Skoda for the chamfered edged pads as they told me that was what was needed to stop the mooing.

It sounds from what you're saying then that won't fix the problem :(

Yeah will do buddy.

I realised it was my caliper at the weekend when I was doing the suspension. Drivers side disc span freely, passenger side didn't spin! Then the penny dropped and I realised it was just that one disc making the noise when reversing. Might explain why the car wanders to the left slightly at speed too, but not sure on that. Too much stuff has changed recently!

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Bodge can you keep me posted, I have to renew my rear brake discs and pads before xmas and I was going to ask Skoda for the chamfered edged pads as they told me that was what was needed to stop the mooing.

It sounds from what you're saying then that won't fix the problem :(

Replacement real caliper has sorted the mooing for me now Chicken.

Pads had zero effect. Tried Skoda OE, Mintex Xtreme and Pagid pads. All mooed/sqealed. Turns out the handbrake mech screws up and stops the piston from fully returning. Screwing the piston back in when changing pads sorts it for a while, but it always comes back!

Good luck with yours bud ;)

Just too throwa spanner in here........

I had Geniuine pads then TRW replacements since owning the car, never had a moo in 85k.

Changed them a few weeks back for Genuine pads (chamfered) and discs and now it's frikkin terrible.

Why all of a sudden after 85k does this happen ???

I tightened up the handbrake adjustment nut a bit last week when I was having handbrake problems and it made the mooing a lot worse :eek: it was even mooing a little in reverse when the brakes weren't applied. I managed to scare a whole forecourt full of people yesterday when reversing at the petrol station :rofl: Slackened off the nut a bit now (so the lever ratchets up about 5 clicks) which seems to have helped a bit.

So Bodge would you recommend changing the rear calipers? I have got to do my rear discs and pads before xmas and am going for Mintex d & p so will see if winding the piston back and using those pads helps, otherwise I guess it'll have to be a change of calipers. Like you I find the car drifts to the left on the motorway, I have had the tracking done a couple of times at different places and it's still drifted to the left afterwards.

Were the calipers expensive? I thought I read in another post they are over

AIUI the mooing is an interaction between the friction material and the discs, so if you change the discs and genuine pads you might induce it where it didn't happen before.

AIUI the mooing is an interaction between the friction material and the discs, so if you change the discs and genuine pads you might induce it where it didn't happen before.

But the firstset of genuine pads and discs didn't do it :confused::confused:

And they weren't the revised chamfered ones either :confused:

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