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Hi guys,

At the moment I've got the 16" vRS wheels, now at some point i'd love to upgrade these to 17 or 18" alloys.

Now, what would these be like?

17" RS4 Audi/VW Style Alloy Wheels with Tyres 4/5 Stud on eBay, also, Wheels with Tyres, Car Wheels, Tyres Trims, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 19-Apr-08 17:30:00 BST)

18" New RS4 Audi/VW Style Alloy Wheels with Tyres (332) on eBay, also, Wheels with Tyres, Car Wheels, Tyres Trims, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 19-Apr-08 22:00:00 BST)

I'm guessing heavy and not great quality.... would people go for 17"s or 18" on the vRS?

I have seen a guy on here who has them on a silver VRS and they look really good. If you look further on in this diccusion area there is a thread called "Wheels" and there are many diffrent options from different members.

i really like the S3 alloys a few members on here have.

Thing i don't like about the previous RS4 alloys is near me every boy racer in a golf has them now so there not very individual any more.

the new shape RS4 wheels however do look the dogs danglies.

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Thanks.

Any comments on the extra weight from the reps + going bigger?

18" too big?

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I really like the vRS alloys, but to get a good set with tyres in 17"s it seems they go for the same sort of price as a new set with new tyres... :(

Shouldn't notice much with the weight tbh, handling will be slightly diff if you go for wider ones, acceleration/topspeed will be affected slightly if the rolling radius is changed. the ride quality will suffer a little from using lower profile tyres. but tbh not that much as the saloon vrs has 17's anyway.

ive always noticed that it is usually cheaper to get aftermarket wheels than OEM.

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I'm guessing OEM will be alot better quality....

Handling be effected in a good or bad way? :)

probably in a good way as more grip from larger tyre but when it starts to slip it may slip quicker, your turning circle may increase, nothing drastic though. depends on the width of tyre you go for as this will make a big difference.

I have a set of replica new style RS4's in 17" and they were properly cheap (I actually paid £25 the set brand new, but thats another ebay story :) pmsl) they have been fine functionally, we have used them on a Vento race car for a couple of meetings too with no problem.

However they are heavy (we are used to the weight of Oz Superleggera for example, and the rep's are probably getting on for twice the weight) and I suspect if you hit them hard then they are likely to break easier too.

One other thing, the tyres you will get with a £500 set of wheels will be crap at best,,,

There are some VRS alloys on E-bay at the moment.

I have seen them from £150-£300 and you can get a set of Falkens from mytyres for £280

Your looking around £500-£600 for secondhand alloys with a new set of good rubber! (Go for 225x45x17)

I've got 18" old style RS4 replica alloys fitted & they are okay. Personally I would go for the 18" size alloys as the size of the car suits them:thumbup:

Just watch the quality is my advice. cheap ones can bend easily.

18's definatly, suit a octavia much better :)

Just watch the quality is my advice. cheap ones can bend easily.

Surely all these replica alloys are made by one massive company that probably already owns OZ or MOMO etc etc. Yes the quality will be not as good but i'v always said pound for pound these replica wheels are a very good buy.

Darren

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Still really tempted by these;

18" New RS4 Audi/VW Style Alloy Wheels with Tyres (332) on eBay, also, Wheels with Tyres, Car Wheels, Tyres Trims, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 25-Apr-08 22:00:00 BST)

Are those tyres anygood?

My front tyres are nearly shot I think but the rears have loads left. I'm right in thinking that the little marker in the tread is the legal limit yes? I'm a bit above that and have 700 miles to do in the next 4 days! Hope they last!!!!!!

Thinking about selling my alloys and paying some on top to get a new set with tyres... instead of forking out £150 for just two new tyres.

If I get the 18s will I need to get the car lowered?

Teres a company that does those alloys for £399 plus £25 postage. You get the badges locking wheel nuts and all the wheels ballanced etc.

Darren

Surely all these replica alloys are made by one massive company that probably already owns OZ or MOMO etc etc. Yes the quality will be not as good but i'v always said pound for pound these replica wheels are a very good buy.

Darren

I'm not sure about that, why would companies make alloys for cars OEM and also sell poor quality replica's of the same wheels for less money? I think they are just manufacturers copying designs, but not 100%. That's why you'll always see tatty old E36's with M3 replica wheels that only have 'Motorsport' embossed around the inside. Genuine ones have 'BMW Motorsport' embossed, so the copies can be done, they just have to tweek the desing a little bit.

Also, I really beleive that you get what you pay for with alloys, you can see teh differnce in quality usually just from looking at them, definately by feeling them! Another thing that would put me off buying cheap rims again is the strength. When I was younger I had a set of Speedline Allessio 2's on a Corsa, I lost the front end in snow once and ploughed through a kurb side on. The only dmage was a slight scuff to the lip of the rim, balanced up and completely straight still. On my next Corsa I had Masitaly VT5's, they were basically Khan RSR copies in the correst offset. I managed to hit a kerb again with these in a similar fashion and snapped the bottom of the wheel off. And when you try to source one wheel on it's own the price shoots up a bit.

In this instance I would try to source a set of OEM spec wheels if they are the wheels you want, or buy some aftermarket ones from a decent manufacturer.

I'm not sure about that, why would companies make alloys for cars OEM and also sell poor quality replica's of the same wheels for less money? I think they are just manufacturers copying designs, but not 100%. That's why you'll always see tatty old E36's with M3 replica wheels that only have 'Motorsport' embossed around the inside. Genuine ones have 'BMW Motorsport' embossed, so the copies can be done, they just have to tweek the desing a little bit.

Also, I really beleive that you get what you pay for with alloys, you can see teh differnce in quality usually just from looking at them, definately by feeling them! Another thing that would put me off buying cheap rims again is the strength. When I was younger I had a set of Speedline Allessio 2's on a Corsa, I lost the front end in snow once and ploughed through a kurb side on. The only dmage was a slight scuff to the lip of the rim, balanced up and completely straight still. On my next Corsa I had Masitaly VT5's, they were basically Khan RSR copies in the correst offset. I managed to hit a kerb again with these in a similar fashion and snapped the bottom of the wheel off. And when you try to source one wheel on it's own the price shoots up a bit.

In this instance I would try to source a set of OEM spec wheels if they are the wheels you want, or buy some aftermarket ones from a decent manufacturer.

I can see where your coming from but why would anyone (company) have all the relevant lathes expertise in production and contacts for supply, then only produce cheap copys? In nearly all instances of industry you have a blue chip company at the head of things. This applys to just about every single product in the market from Food, clothing, electrical products and car manufacturers. Turning your nose up to copy alloys is pretty much on a par with being a badge snob to the Skoda brand. Even though we all know that we are driving cars that are using all VW parts. On a side note the RS4 alloys can be bought singularly for £59. Much much cheaper than Skodas price for the spider alloys that we have on our cars from standard. I'v got some expensive alloys that i'm waiting to get tyres for but i'm still considering buying some of these cheap RS4 copys simply because the cost with tyres makes them just about disposable really.

Darren

Runway tyres...runaway? Dont skimp on these.

Also, they are likely as mentioned to be poor quality and possibly heavy.

Runway tyres...runaway? Dont skimp on these.

Also, they are likely as mentioned to be poor quality and possibly heavy.

Very intelligent answer:rofl: YES they will be heavier and YES the quality will be lower and YEEEEeeess the tyres will be cheap:D Its like going to Tesco and buying value. Not something your proud to display in the trolley, but still does the job very well:thumbup:

Darren

Bide your time and try not to rush into anything. You may find a set of OEM Audi alloys for around the same money as replica ones.

I can see where your coming from but why would anyone (company) have all the relevant lathes expertise in production and contacts for supply, then only produce cheap copys? In nearly all instances of industry you have a blue chip company at the head of things. This applys to just about every single product in the market from Food, clothing, electrical products and car manufacturers. Turning your nose up to copy alloys is pretty much on a par with being a badge snob to the Skoda brand. Even though we all know that we are driving cars that are using all VW parts. On a side note the RS4 alloys can be bought singularly for £59. Much much cheaper than Skodas price for the spider alloys that we have on our cars from standard. I'v got some expensive alloys that i'm waiting to get tyres for but i'm still considering buying some of these cheap RS4 copys simply because the cost with tyres makes them just about disposable really.

Darren

I worked for a company that supplied alloys to the trade and there are 100's if not 1000's of companies that make alloy wheels.You can fly to china (other countries are available) and pay for a mould and have what ever wheel you want.

You do pay for what you get!

We had a major problem with a shipment of wheels designed for 'Motorworld' shops around 8 years ago,which were a 'oz' copy.

All the wheels were stored where i worked and tyres were also fitted their when orders came in.

I got called by one of the tyre fitters as he had a problem that he kept scrapping the rims.It turned out all the 4 x 108 pcd 17" wheels weren't round,but slightly oval.:rofl:

I never found out what happened to the alloys as moved jobs.

You do pay for what you get,so don't buy cheap.

Feel even more tempted to buy these cheap copys, just to prove a point:rofl: Problem is i cant afford to at the moment:O Even if you do buy oval wheels with chocolate tyres, remember that you do still have statuatory rights and a printed invoice from Ebay is a solid reciept. Just one drive with 1 unbalanced wheel is all it would take for me to know if i had a problem with the wheel and tyre combo that i had purchased.

Darren

Well, each to their own. I won't personally be buying any replica rims, if I wanted RS4 rims then I source a set of OEM ones, luckily I like the rims that the Octavia comes with... I'd just like them to be black!

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