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You're ok that cat is alive... it is a car. I'll fill in more details on the EV6 vs Enyaq thread, but we have an EV6 on order. 👍

TBH it wasn't that they had not rung back in 5 minutes that bothered me at all. They called the next day, said they would call back 2 hours later as asked, then they didn't so 2 days later I called, sales in question was busy but would call me back later that day.... didn't. I already had the list narrowed down to two cars and had only reconsidered the born after your post and realising the 77kWh was a real thing in the UK.

Sorry, are you asking about the Born or what I have gone with?

I'm looking at the 350kW infrastructure and thinking it's a good thing that it's being expanded and as you say ideally before next summer. I would say this summer, but with 12 month waiting times on pretty much everything EV you're looking at next summer for the event that stresses it all.

Dealer phoned up about a test drive after I requested one. I was in middle of a call and asked them to call back a little later and they said they would. Nothing at all and with the dealer about 75 miles away I gave up and purchased something else.

I hope they have plans to scale that ASAP. There are not many cars that can use the 350, but we have one on order now. However come the holidays, the things will be blocked solid with all the traffic coming down the M5 that has gone past Somerset and wants to do a last charge before it enters deepest devon/cornwall.

Just looked into some paperwork I got when looking at different cars and it’s only around 1500 including service, tyres and breakdown as a maintenance contract on a 4 year lease. I have no idea at all where the figures put forward could come from…

I can confirm 4 years servicing with 2 services at 20k miles on a Kia EV6 is under £500 as a pack and even if you pay as you go it’s under £650 to do the required services. Where did they get that figure from for the EV6?

This look approximately correct?

I mean hard tap water will reduce the life of the coolant and may well increase deposits, but I doubt it would kill 3 belts in 5 years (Assuming belt is done at 4-5 years). I do agree VW group (any many other car manufacturers) seem to have some quality issues, where it apears to have been design, then cost reduced and then problem.... I would like to point out that VW have some issues in some areas, but every other car manufacturer I know of has similar issues, albeit usually in other areas.

Did I miss the 77 coming to the UK as if it did, that makes it very interesting again. I'm about to compare EV6 and Enyaq for a final time, but a 77 born, would throw that all into question. @john999boy have you driven the ID3 and the born? I ask as the ID3 was horrible due to floppy suspension and poor control of the throttle that made it like a switch. If the born fixes these two then things get a bit more interesting if the lease or finance prices are right.

I think you need 1.4kW to use the Zappi eco+ mode. The Eco mode I think it uses the solar and tops the grid up to meet mimum Then fast is just use it from wherever as long as it's fast

Looking at both of these for a final time tomorrow, before joining the 52 week lead time group.... After AWD and comparing GT Line AWD to an 80x (Sportline looks to be the only trim). The weather gets wet and the roads twisty around us a lot, so that much torque/power on the back only just doesn't feel right. At the moment I think the EV6 has it, by virtue of lower price on lease, seemingly less annoying controls and better range/charging. Anyone own/spent a reasonable amount of time that can give me an idea for what to look for that you might not normally notice in a test drive. Also anyone with an RWD EV... how are they in the ice/snow/heavy rain? If it fairly easy to put the back end out if you're not paying attention? I'm thinking the regen braking could make it a bit interesting in poor conditions too.

I think this thread is so far back from the dead, perhaps a new/different thread might be more useful 👍

Oddly with the VAT change I don’t think a car charger counts as energy saving equipment, but eddi/harvi/hub do… Now debating doing them separately to save the VAT…

They’d probably nick the conduit 😂😂

Wondering if anyone knows how to protect DC cables running behind dab walling between a solar inverter and the panels. Electrical/mechanical protection is what I’m asking about really.

Sorry I should have clarified, if we can't go from behind, then I'll be looking at the shortest visible run possible. The question I was asking was more do you think the SWA or the cable ina conduit is less attractive to them. Ta

Yes the Anderson does, but at least for now, we were thinking of doing the Zappi route. We are getting: - approx 6kWp - approx 10 kWh of battery - Eddi Solar diverter - Probably a Zappi as it can just work with the Eddi. The Zappi also seems to be better at doing solar only charging and quicker at fixing issues/working with manufacturers to identify them. Sadly we don't have a garage for the charger, so it will be by the front door/bin store etc As you say the Anderson is very discrete and the Zappi isn't fancy, but could probably be covered up with a suitable "post box" or similar. Yes I noticed many are super flashy, which seems totally pointless and as you say an advertisment to anyone wanting to "borrow" the cable on a permanent basis. When you say cut it and slide it out of the lock, I assume you mean regardless of tethered or untethered, live or off, they'd just use some insulated wirecutters. The socket locks would not really change much as they'll just leave you with a potentially live socket and as little copper as they can leave behind. You mean the SWA? I was debating if this should be from behind, in trunking or something else. If we can't go from behind (Which is TBC), would you suggest a short run of SWA or normal (6mm??) T+E in trunking?

The thing is with the LWB vans, there is loads of space for a good sized battery pack and even with the SWB I'm kind of surprised they couldn't fit say an 75-100kWh usable in there. I do think for things like lorries and longer distance vans rather than just round town last mile services you're going to have to look at hydrogen powered FCEV or something other than carrying around a couple of tonnes of battery. I suppose they could put a massive battery in the trailer that is charged whilst it's waiting and a cab with a smaller battery just picks up and drops off... but still you're towing tonnes of battery.

So basically, if they decide they are going to nick the cable, then they'll probably write off the charger either way 😕 The value of the copper in them alone suggests you're going to get at least £10-20 at a "specialist" scrap dealer and I have a feeling that things will take off shortly. I assume they don't do cables with suitable padlock points or suitably neat charger cover boxes? Basically it's a case of you're damned if you do or don't and it's really convienience of tethered vs adapatability/neatness of an untethered without the cable in use. Anything else I'm missing?

Thanks 👍 Is the lock feature on all cars or just Tesla? Also do you know if the chargers can lock or is that now likely just to get more damage if targeted. Do you have a zappi or another untethered?

I think we will get a zappi charger as the Anderson hardware is good but the app was last updated 8 months ago 😕 The zappi also ties in well with the solar diverter and solar. Big question then is tethered or untethered? One thing I hear about but don’t know about is regards cable theft. Untethered is obviously harder to use and easier to steal in use. Tethered however is always there so a bigger window to nick it and I imagine thieves would probably damage the charger case nicking it or at least require an electrician to replace it. It’s it an issue in reality? Any other thoughts in favour of either appreciated 👍

I don’t really understand why electric cars don’t have an overdrive gear such that whilst cruising at say 55mph one or more motors is on a higher final drive to improve motorway efficiency.

Some cheap lease deals but it is very much a marmite look… I seem to remember the range was ok but not great for the battery size.