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Edited 28 August, 200817 yr by Kentish

Roy, it sounds like an "aquastop", which basically is a mechanical blocker hose. You can use an ordinary plain inlet hose without fear if you so desire. However, could you not just enlarge the cabinet hole to the thing to go back further?

Cheers Andy. Unfortunately I can't enlarge the hole as the back of the cabinet is the back kitchen wall. I did think about using the old inlet pipe from the Hoover, but the water stopper thing has a different size attachment at the washing machine end. I'll go to a plumbing supplies place and get an attachment which turns the hose 90degrees to the side. Shouldn't cost too much.

If it's not a stupid question, most washing machines are designed to fit so to align flush with "counter top" front to back width (23.5"?) so that they fit in rather that sticking out.

Assuming this is what you are talking about, why not just ring John Lewis and ask them if there's some sort of adjustment re installation or "tweak" since all "normal" (rather than utility room people) who bought the machine would have a similar problem wouldn't they? :rubchin:

Feel free to ignore if you are talking about something different as I can't see anything from the website except that it looks like a typical washing machine. :ne_nau:

Still, as long as it's arrived and working without too much hassle, it's not a bad start

Regards

Mo

Edit: It's just that I don't quite get this idea of a wonderful selling point (or unique selling point as it's known), that, e.g. "This stop thingy is really great and it only means that the washer will sit a few inches forward, but, you're buying a stop thingy and soon, everyone's washers will sit a few inches forward. Yey!" How cool is that? What? I'd hand me money over there and then

Edited 28 August, 200817 yr by heresmo

Roy, inlet hoses for ALL European machines have 3/4 "BSP threads, only American machines may have different threads. You don't have to use the inlet hose that came with the machine as it is just extra protection but still just an inlet hose with physical emergency blocking. The only time you cannot replace them is if the hose is secured inside the machine, and probably then have electrical as well as pressure controlled valves within. So the long and short of it is...if the inlet hose supplied has screw thread connection's both ends, it can be replaced no problem's.

Only thing to remember, Zanussi made machines tend to have a washer in the inlet hose at the machine end that is not flat, and instead also protrudes inside the inlet valve of the machine. This washer is thicker than most, and coupled with it's shape makes for a damned good seal. If your machine has this washer, try and reuse it with your replacement yet to be bought inlet hose (put it in the end of the valve and then screw up your new inlet hose that will probably already have a washer in that you are going to leave alone). I always use 2.5m hoses as the extra length is often very helpful.

Mo..............all kitchens are the same, and all holes where washing machines are the same.....so yes....stupid question.

Edited 28 August, 200817 yr by Kentish

Mo..............all kitchens are the same, and all holes where washing machines are the same.....so yes....stupid question.

Thank you for those few kind words, especially since it was your, now deleted, post that prompted mine. Not playing the game my friend.

Still, as long as Roy is happy to tackle something himself, which I still don't think he should need to if it's a brand new machine, possible extra expense, plus it might invalidate his guarantee because he's changed the set-up so as to be different from "as delivered" if anything goes wrong...

I've never pretended to know anything about anything and this post doesn't change that

Regards

Mo

None of our appliances fit flush under our (standard) worktops. It may work where you've got the worktop offset from the wall with some kind of spacer, but when you have the worktop flush with the wall, the additional electrics and pipework etc. behind the machine is always going to make it stick out a bit. Even if the top is sized to be the right depth, the front of modern appliances is often convex and bulges out beyond the line of the worktop edge.

Our kitchen is obviously one of those that isn't quite "the same"

Mo..the post is still there, I just adjusted one of them as I double posted the same reply. The warranty is not affected by no using the supplied inlet hose if it's no specific ie not fixed inside the machine. All changing the hose does is remove one (extra) protection for you nothing else.

Most modern worktops are generally 600mm deep. If the machine going underneath is 600 deep (as Zanussi's tend to be) then the chances of a perfect fit are remote especially as Nick says supply services etc are often behind, coupled with the current trend for curved frontage's etc.

I buy a new car, it's won't fit in the garage.....who's fault is it because all car's and garages are the same size..correct?

Hi Kentish, I realised late last night that your post (the one I referred to) was still there but only after posting mine and couldn't for the life of me remember what it was you'd said that you deleted; perhaps you should have said "duplicate" rather than the usual ".."

After reading Nick's post, I realised also that when I designed my new layout, the work surface did have a spacer at the back. It is bonkers that it's necessary though if you think about it. Sorry I can't follow your analogy about cars and garages, since if one buys a standard washer, one could reasonably expect it to fit into a standard space. I can only think that maybe counter tops on the Continent are deeper than 600mm - either that or the designers must live in a very isolated world of their own...

I did have a problem with a vented (3" dia hose) tumble dryer once, but luckily got one that could be vented alternatively from the side into the below-cabinet-space (cabs stood on adjustable legs) Eeee! The things you have to think about It's different if you've to live with what exists, hence the bonkers bit that they don't fit

Glad to hear that pittVRS will be OK changing the hose, all being well

Regards

Mo

Well after 5 years and perfect timing (warranty lapsed in August) the John Lewis Washing machine has thrown a 7. It looks like the control board has decided it can no longer take the stresses of modern life, and has passed away peacefully in the middle of a 40 degree cycle of coloured washing.

So this was indeed a £100 per year machine. The question is, can it be resurrected, or is it time to trawl the review sites once more?

RIP JLWM1406. It had about 4 warranty call outs in its life and only had the door seal replaced at the start of August.

Ebay?

 

If i was in the market for a washing machine id sway towards a cheap £250ish beko model.

I swear by my Samsung, quite cheap and only a 1200 spin, but the clothes come out cleaner and dryer than any machine I have had before - AND it is extremely quiet.

 

As for the £100 per year thing, I think I am at the £50-£60 per year stage with it - no faults and no breakdowns at all (and no rust - unlike my mums more expensive and younger Bosch)

Im rocking a rather old Creda item that was left (none operational) in the house when i moved in.. 

 

A 6quid set of brushes later and its peachy.. and i would also say it does a much better job of washing than the last newer hotpoint washer i had in the flat did

Good place to look for advice on new stuff is http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/forumsphpbb3/

Site is manned by white goods engineers, so it's handy for repair info too. Never seen any sarcastic replies . If anyone gets advice and can'tv understand what a part is ,or where it hides, they will guide you .

Bosch all the way ? Samsung are like French cars look good for a couple of days then the electrics go !

We also have a samsung. Came with a 5yr warranty.

Considered the LGs at the time who had a 10yr warranty on the motor.

We bought an ISE

 

http://www.iseappliances.co.uk/

 

designed to last and be repairable rather than replaceable (and cost less than Miele). Came with a 10 year warranty too which says something about the quality.

Well after 5 years and perfect timing (warranty lapsed in August) the John Lewis Washing machine has thrown a 7. It looks like the control board has decided it can no longer take the stresses of modern life, and has passed away peacefully in the middle of a 40 degree cycle of coloured washing.

So this was indeed a £100 per year machine. The question is, can it be resurrected, or is it time to trawl the review sites once more?

RIP JLWM1406. It had about 4 warranty call outs in its life and only had the door seal replaced at the start of August.

New control board from ebay?

Don't Beko tend to be somewhat combustible though. I'm sure I've seen Dominic Littlewood moaning on about them.

http://home.excite.co.uk/beko-recall.html

Don't Beko tend to be somewhat combustible though. I'm sure I've seen Dominic Littlewood moaning on about them.

 

My Beko has been running for three trouble free years so far, and I put everything in it including the car carpet mats, cleaning cloths etc.

We looked at JL ones and the reviews were great.

However I am a tighta55 and went for

Buy HAIER HW-C1460TVE-U | 1400 spin washing machine - Laundry & Dishwashers | Comet

Although it was on offer when I bought at £169.99

It's been great and washes well. It gets a lot of use too. If you get 3 years out of it then it's been a bargin!

 

Sale of goods act should give you 6 years in terms of being fit for purpose. Ok after 3 years of heavy use I would expect the motor brushes will be shot and need replacing.

 

We have a Bosch washing machine which we got from the comet auction site 2 years ago for £210 the in store price was £549 and this one has a non sealed tub so if ever the bearings went you could split the drum and fit new ones.

 

So far its been ok - Washing machines now mainly have a sealed drum so if ever the bearings were to fail it wouldn't be cost effective to repair so I would look at all these scenarios.

 

Mile are good but very expensive.

I wish our washing machine would break down, at least then the ironing pile would stop growing  :peek:

Bosch all the way. I ran a washing machine from over 10 years.....unfortunate thing was that we could not take the thing with us. Faultless is all i can say and never once needed a service....downfall was that me and my ex wife used to use liquid not powder and it did start to smell a little....

Bosch have been going through a bad patch, the machines we have bought in the last couple of years have been useless; the last Bosch condenser dryer lasted less than 10 months before going faulty, and the 3 year old dishwasher packed up three times in 6 months and has so far cost nearly as much in repairs as it cost new (pump, door handle mechanism and kettle-jug sensor).

Lets hope they dont make duff parts in our cars.....I went through a load of duff bosch wipers on my old car.....but im still a fan of the bosch products