Not me....that would be too obvious.

My Dad has a low mileage 2 owner Zafira 2.2 Auto, mint 55 plate. Ideal as a PX you would think. Well yesterday he tells me, he was at our local Vauxhall agent booking his car in for its MOT, and decided to have a browse round the cars in stock. One in particular took his fancy, so he decided to ask how much for his in a PX. To my amazement, he tell my Dad that they don't do PX at the moment, but they will happily ring round the dealer network to see if any of them want to buy his car!! So, they arent allowed to buy in stock, and only sell the used and new cars they have in already.

This doesnt appear to be isolated to Vauxhall, as another chap we know went top the Mazda dealers on the same day, and had the same problem.

So.... how do you buy a car from one of these dealers then? Ridiculous. Anyone else come across this?

its what dealers say when they dont want your car...

a petrol 2.2 auto "school run" car is not the most easy thing to sell.

:iagree:

not a perfect tarde in at all for the reasons mentioned above.

The current crisis and the VED screw over means dealers dont want cars they know they'll struggle to shift - and they have enough already!

Something has to budge, else the whole market will collapse!

its what dealers say when they dont want your car...

a petrol 2.2 auto "school run" car is not the most easy thing to sell.

Fair enough. So usual saleman bull then? Why dont they just say?

Just out of interest Dave, what does he think he'll get for that?

Just out of interest Dave, what does he think he'll get for that?

No idea, as no one would give him an idea. Not sure he is dead set on getting rid tbh, but the road tax on it in the next couple of years is scary. It wasnt his ideal choice of car either.

on the trader it looks like it would get £5-6000 private but there is one from trade at £9000. not a lot for a car that owuld have been quite expensive new.

I know of three dealer that sold in the single figures for the 58 reg in September.

A lot of dealers will be folding soon.

Fair enough. So usual saleman bull then? Why dont they just say?

well if they are crap salesmen they wont have the bottle to tell the customer the truth... cant say i miss being in that game difficult times.

The wife had this with Vauxhall about nine years ago, they just do not want their cars

back. Must be because they are crap :(

Must be because they are crap :(

my dads current astra is 2 years old and this is his 5th brand new astra(keeps them three years as on motobility scheme) and none of them have ever gone wrong and the service from the dealer has been very very good.

the opposite of my experience with skoda.

I agree with Lummox, I think a lot of dealers will go to the wall in the next year. There is a Vauxhall dealer near me have a major rebuild done and I can’t help but think they will be bust within 12 months if they aren’t lucky.

I have wondered if in a year or two however, will the demand for used motors skyrocket as people start to feel more confident in their personal finances, dealers can offer finance again and the realisation that the lack of new 58 plate cars now, will mean a shortfall of nice used cars in the near future?

Booked the works Mondy service today.

Last week told their special deal was £200 (-£50). Booked today, and the deal's now £100 for a 75k service (diesel, so no cam belt).

And I could have took in in today, as they are quite for services.

my dads current astra is 2 years old and this is his 5th brand new astra(keeps them three years as on motobility scheme) and none of them have ever gone wrong and the service from the dealer has been very very good.

the opposite of my experience with skoda.

bengie, TBH all the Astra's I have driven have been just fine. But I know so

many people that have had problems with them.....

there is a peugeot dealer in oxford goign through a massive rebuild too, not the best time really.

Chester Audi have just moved to a brand new showroom , must of cost a fortune

they must be mad , or loaded

Fair enough. So usual saleman bull then? Why dont they just say?

i doubt it, maybe he wanted want to tell you your cars not worth a whole heap to them as its petrol, big engined and a auto. with the governements VED banding to thank for that!

i spoke to a national buyer the other day and he said the average a car lost over the last month shot up to about 700 quid! so you can imagine if that car sits about for the next few months it will cost the dealer over a grand to have it sitting there. it used to take me one maybe 2 calls to get a decent underwrite for newer cars, but in the last few months ive been taking upto 2 weeks to get a half decent underwrite!

ive got a chap who wants out of his range rover sport, but NONE of the dealers nationwide are buying cars! shocking

doesn't this tell you something about new cars in general?? basically they are trying to sell you something at a grossly inflated price, i mean how much does it cost to manufacture a car anyway??

doesn't this tell you something about new cars in general?? basically they are trying to sell you something at a grossly inflated price, i mean how much does it cost to manufacture a car anyway??

I seem to remember reading somewhere that things like a £15K Mondeo costs about £6K to make. But then there are marketing costs to add to that.

As for prices being grossly inflated, I'd have a look at most car manufacturers balance sheets and see how well they are doing. For the majority, I guess they'd do better for their shareholders if sold up and put what little cash they had left over in a deposit account (though not an Icelandic one!)

Facing the same issue at the moment Dave. With two to trade it's doubly compounded, even Clares civic, a 2.2 es diesel is proving hard to move on...the below trade book offers are also beginning to peeve me off...especially when using his same quote engine his windscreen price of 10500 had a trade of 8400. I know folk need to eat, but c'mon.

As the saying goes though, turnover is vanity, profit is sanity, and in this day I guess holding out for the profit deals might be there recourse, rather than turning a car.

Facing the same issue at the moment Dave. With two to trade it's doubly compounded, even Clares civic, a 2.2 es diesel is proving hard to move on...the below trade book offers are also beginning to peeve me off...especially when using his same quote engine his windscreen price of 10500 had a trade of 8400. I know folk need to eat, but c'mon.

As the saying goes though, turnover is vanity, profit is sanity, and in this day I guess holding out for the profit deals might be there recourse, rather than turning a car.

pretty much sums it up....

there is little point dealers taking in cars that are losing value fast. The only stuff holding up is low CO2 fashion stuff - BMW / Mini / Fiat 500 / Smart etc the rest is plummeting.

Facing the same issue at the moment Dave. With two to trade it's doubly compounded, even Clares civic, a 2.2 es diesel is proving hard to move on...the below trade book offers are also beginning to peeve me off...especially when using his same quote engine his windscreen price of 10500 had a trade of 8400. I know folk need to eat, but c'mon.

As the saying goes though, turnover is vanity, profit is sanity, and in this day I guess holding out for the profit deals might be there recourse, rather than turning a car.

i know this is off topic and been discussed before but what would you expect as a px price?

say that car for 10500, customer comes in and says they want a discount, most people seem to think a grand is a target price to get off. so that leaves 9500. then the customer asks for mats and fuel and take off prep costs, used car check, cleaning and maybe it needs tyre too for example. so the 1100 quid thats left i would say about 400 to 500 quid goes to prep. leaving profit of 600 - 500 quid. i would say thats fair really.

6k to make a Mondeo & sell for 15k is probably about right, fleet sales will get a discount, then allow for warranty issues etc. The problem for most manufactures is that you have to make a profit on the 'bread & butter' cars to make up for losses on other cars in the range. In the States this week there are concerns that GM could go bust in the next twelve months. GM are looking at merging / a takeover of Chrysler.

When i was looking to trade in my previous car (04 plate fabia 1.9 TDi estate) i took it to a dealer(branch of a large national chain) as they had a car i was looking at(a 56 plate Jetta 1.9 TDi with low miles) but the salesman basicly told me he couldnt give me a price as they had taken in their quota of trade is for that month (mid-late july). I then took it back about a week or so later(early august) but got such a derisory figure compared to what i would get on the car i ended up buying i walked away.