But of course, that's why my PS3 failed after 2 weeks, and my 360 has been in almost daily use for 18 months without a glitch

I won't tell you about the huge Eastern European work force bought in to fix eggboxes by the repairer in the same office/manufacturing space as us then.

I think Cheezemonkhai must have been violated in a nasty way by Bill and several of his band of merry men

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Ive always been a Sony man and was willing to get a PS3 when GT5 came out, but as thats not going to be until at least next summer it seems i got tired of waiting so bought an Xbox360 60Gb when i bought my new tv a couple of months ago. The lack of Blu ray doesnt bother me as it upscales normal DVDs anyway, plus it has all the games i want to play anyway, not going to miss GT5 that much (or so i tell myself lol). And at the end of the day it was £140 in my back pocket over the PS3.

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We cant trust anything you say.. microsoft 0wnz j000!

Lies .......... I am just working here as a scumbag contractor until mid December, I even take great delight in firing up my MBP in the office.

I won't tell you about the huge Eastern European work force bought in to fix eggboxes by the repairer in the same office/manufacturing space as us then.

But that's old news, I am just speaking of my own personal experience, my PS3 failed, my 360 has not (as of yet).

All said and done, neither of them match the Wii for rainy day family fun.

But that's old news, I am just speaking of my own personal experience, my PS3 failed, my 360 has not (as of yet).

I can see how that would cloud your view , but Sony seem to have had far fewer problems overall than MS on the current generation console.

I have both (had the 360 for ages, my wife bought me the PS3 to watch Bluray on) and I have to say if I am going to buy a new game now I try to get it on the PS3. I won't pay more for it, or go without though if it is only in stock for the 360.

I tend to lok at both, but more often than not it's only the games I might play with my Sony loving, 360-less mate that get bought on the PS3, and that's pretty much down to the fact that PS3 games still have 720p on the back of the box where it should say 1080p...:thumbdwn:

I've got both and if I was in the position where I had to buy them again but could only buy one it would definitely be the 360. Mainly for the achievements system. I know the PS3 now has these as well, but I don't like the interface as much. When Home comes out this may change, but as most of my friends have a 360 as well this also sways me as online play is what the 360 does best!

But of course, that's why my PS3 failed after 2 weeks, and my 360 has been in almost daily use for 18 months without a glitch

I had the opposite experience. I got a 360 when they first came out and that failed after 3 weeks, they replaced it and got a permanent RROD just after the warrenty was up. So I got rid of it (just before they extended the warranty to 3 years) and brought a PS3 which has not failed me since.

my 360 has been more reliable than my ps3 . my 360 lasted for a year and a half and my ps3 lasted 2 hours on launch day also the ps3 failure rate is a lot higher than sony would have people belive . Games wise the 360 wins with some great excluisives also the multi-format games are better on the 360 too .the ps3 has some good excluisives too but most of the ones they had are going multi format now

I really like the Xbox 360 but the two we have in this household have both malfunctioned.

We have 3 360`s in the house...... my one, the oldest was fixed free of charge even though it was nearly 18 months old. Fantastic games and there seems more people online on the 360 than the Ps3

Phil

Seeing the PS3 evolve from when it first came out, I'm really disappointed. As Manny said before me, they have cut corners in an attempt to reduce cost on points that everyone really notice.

I bought a 60GB PS3 back from Japan in Jan 2007 (before they came out in Europe). I only paid £230 for it () and it's been great. OK, I'll admit I haven't used the built in card reader, but the 4 USB ports are very handy.

Fast forward to today, they've crippled it. Now you only have 2 USB ports, you have lost backward compatibility. Also, take into account both ports are on the front and there's no USB on the rear means your ports are immediately used up. Now they've released the TV tuner addon (which takes a USB port), you only need to add another USB device (keyboard, Buzz game dongle, web cam, hard drive, flash drive) and that's it, both ports are used up.

I mean how much does a USB 2 hub cost? If you buy / integrate in large numbers, it's pennies! But the effect costs a lot more to the end user IMHO.

Also, when it comes to the operating system, they are gradually bringing out more and mroe features, but it's still so massively underdevelopped considering the power under the hood. If they want to make it a truly AV-centric kit for which it is more than capable of, they need to improve the usability, add more codec support...

The potential is phenomenal, but the progress is almost backwards and every new release just seems to bring a more crippled version.

When I look at what can be done with it (working for the Company, our R&D team have done some pretty awesome stuff with PS3s and Cell CPUs), it's just so demoralising how the final product delivered to the end user is so limited...

I've never owned an eggbox, and probably won't as my time nowadays is so limited when it comes to games. Also, for FPS stuff, I just can't do it with a gamepad, it has to be keyboard + mouse. The only real reason I still really like my two PS3s (yes, I have two of them ) is for blu-ray playback.

Manny et all, blu-ray playback on the PS3 is nothing short of stunning. Only today are the more recent players providing similar playback quality at similar / cheaper prices. If you're after a multimedia / blu-ray / DLNA client / plays the odd game on the side, it still is a very versatile machine that ticks all the boxes.

But I appreciate if you take away the blu-ray side, then an eggbox probably ticks the other boxes as well if not better.

it just seems like Sony aren't totally sure what they want the PS3 to be/do (other than a means to push blu-ray into the mainstream) and it feels like the gaming side of things isn't a top priority whereas the 360 is a games console and the multimedia side of things are being slowly added

they need to improve the usability, add more codec support....

They've finally in the last revision added AVI support, I was quite impressed when it found my Home Server and the little Windows Connect logo showed up. Less so when it wouldn't play my rather large AVI collection (although my Celebrity Porn in MPEG did work )

PS3 network is free for a reason, it's so nobody can demand a refund for getting booted off all of the time! XBox live is miles better, the integration into the dashboard seems a lot better and as i've said a lot more reliable.

Blu Ray is the big factor for me buying a PS3 and secondly all of my friends went to the dark side after I pioneered the next gen charge with a 360 I've just spent a couple of hours chatting and ruling the leaderboards of COD with a friend who lives a 100 mile away.

The web browser is quite a nice feature on the PS3.

My cheap second hand xbox turned into quite a large investment in the end. 120gb HDD, Wireless Controllers, proprietary headset, proprietary component av lead all add up!

ruling the leaderboards of COD with a friend who lives a 100 mile away.

Must be easier on the PS3 then. :P

Oi! I was fifth prestige or so on the 360! When I was playing against you I was having some off days

i actually dislike blu-ray playback as the sodding stutter annoys me even though our tv(42" 1080p LCD) supports 24p!!! yet HD-DVD plays perfectly and looks no different and still sounds awesome.

Blu-ray only won because SONY baught the victory

and cheesy monkey ofcourse sony are going to very little returns of broken consoles as very few have been bought and most of the ones that have been bought are never used

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i actually dislike blu-ray playback as the sodding stutter annoys me even though our tv(42" 1080p LCD) supports 24p!!! yet HD-DVD plays perfectly and looks no different and still sounds awesome.

Blu-ray only won because SONY baught the victory

and cheesy monkey ofcourse sony are going to very little returns of broken consoles as very few have been bought and most of the ones that have been baught are never used

don't think that's so much a blu-ray thing as it is a 24p not quite being implemented in a standard way. blu-ray playback's fine with 24p switched off on the PS3, but it even stutter's with 24p on guppy's Sony telly

24fps is a shoddy rate. Nothing to do with the media - both blu-ray and hd-dvd store the films in 1080/24p format. If you're getting less stutter, then there must be a different setting between the hd-dvd player. Bengie, out of interest, what player are you using for hd-dvd?

Sony baught ? Hmm will look that word up in the dictionary :P At least for once, the better technical format won :P

it's xbox 360 for hd-dvd, which I don't think does 24p anyway.

if blu-ray was so technically superior, why was Sony paying studios etc to stay away from hd-dvd? anyway, from a consumer point of view there's next to nothing between the two formats (apart from older blu-ray players not being fully compatible with all the extras on newer disks?) and it's the games that should be the difference maker and this is the area in which the 360 wins

The reason sony needed to pay the studios, was one of economics. HD-DVD's were much cheaper to manufacture and had better margins. HD-DVD's could be made in the same plant/production line as normal DVD's. Blu-Ray disks required and still do require dedicated manufacturing facilities which add all add to the costs. Sony own all these plants and can therefore control pricing of the disks and perhaps keep them artificially high, whereas HD-DVDs could be made anywhere and the disks sold cheaply.

The 360 add-on HD-DVD drive played all HD-DVD disks at 30P, as the 360 itself does not support 24P. All films are recorded onto both HD-DVD and Blu-ray at 24P, however BBC productions on HD-DVD are recorded at 25P so play judder free on the 360.

Thanks for all the replies. I got a Xbox360 60GB in the end, extra controller, 2 x rechargable batts for the contollers, Fable 2, Halo 3, GOW, plus one other game for about £250.

And I got my 160gb PS3 today

So far it's excellent