Yes I know another tyre thread.

Anyone running these all season tyres and if so any review comments on them at all.

Had a good look on t'interweb and both seem to have different plus points so figured I'd ask here.

Also does anyone know of any tyre places down south that supply the nokian tyres as I can only find one through their site which is a long drive away and mytyres are very expensive compared to them.

Thanks:thumbup:

I have Nokian Zs fitted to mine. Got them from Wealden Tyres just North of Hailsham.

HTH

Mike

I have Nokian Zs fitted to mine. Got them from Wealden Tyres just North of Hailsham.

HTH

Mike

Hi Mike, yeah that's the only fitter I can find in the UK :eek:

What are the Z's aimed at?

The Zs are a summer tyre. I originally went in for some Falken 452s but there were some supply problems at the time and the guy there (very knowledgeable) suggested the Zs as an alternative. Very quiet and fule economy went up after they were fitted. Price was pretty reasonable too but they have since increased in price quite a lot I have been told!

I don't drive particularly quickly but on the odd occasion of brisk driving they have not failed me in either the dry or wet... I prefer them much more over the standard Contis that were originally on there. They've even handled the snow and ice pretty well considering they are a summer tyre and the shape of the tread.

I have had them fitted for close to a year now and 10k miles and tread depth is now down to 6mm all round... not sure how this compares to others but I didn't think that was too bad.

Overall, v happy (but I do drive like an old man most of the time)

I bought 4xQuatrac3 's at the end of Nov so will have covered about 6k now. Size 195/65/ r15 V for my mk1 tdi cost £55 each all in from Stewartry Tyres a local independant tyre place.

So far I'm very impressed have used once on snow and found wheelslip braking and turning greatly improved, and have often been on farm and forestry tracks and been very impressed. I went through Dalbeattie Forest stage of the Galloway Hills Rally (9 miles) which was loose gravel on hard frozen ground( this was after about 140 rally cars) Again huegely impressed. I cover a lot of road miles on A & B roads (rarely motorway) again good if a little noisier than "summer" tyres and when mild maybe do not turn in just as sharp but nothing to worry about but has been pretty cold since purchase so no problem. Wet weather grip is good aswell as stopping so I would say they are a pretty safe choice. I think generally for our climate (I'm in S. Scotland) they are ideal for the winter where a full blown winter tyre would be too extreme for the uk climate this sems to offer the best of both worlds.

You could probably see my other posts on these tyres if you want more ramblings. Generally I'm impressed with Vredestein tyres as a brand not just the winter tyres.

I fully intent on getting 4 Quatracs on the Vectra for next winter - by then I'll need 4 tyres (got 2 NCT5 on the back and new ER300 on the front). 4-season tyres are probably a good plan for this country as a significant part of the year is below 7C when normal "summer" tyres just don't work well at all. I'll be fitting 225-45-17 probably around September/October time.

I'm also a Vredestein fan - had T-Trac2 on my folk's Fiesta which were considerably better than the Pirelli P3000 it came with, had Ultracs on my old Astra. I'm regretting the purchase of the ER300 now.

Thanks guys, the Quatrac 3 are looking good then.

Anybody any comments on the ability of the Nokian WR all season tyres?

Also throwing another tyre into the Mix, I've been offered the following too:

goodyear vector 4seasons.

Any comments on these?

I've got WR G2s and am very very happy.

No nosier than normal and no problems in normal use.

Winter thus far they seem better, definitely more braking than the normal tyres would have had in the snow.

I'm in a Scout, 2 4x4s previously, never had any problems getting going but reckon that the benefits of the all season tyres come from the braking and cornering in the snow and cold weather.

I used "mytres" and was very happy with the price but reckon that the low pound will have affected the price as it's a company based in Germany?

Good luck whatever you decide on.

I thought Nokian was a product of Finnland

It is.

I thought Nokian was a product of Finnland

Yes.

If you're talking about what I think you are, as I said in the other thread, made in Europe I think is sensible.

That plus I don't know of any British winter rated tyres

Good to hear points on all of these so far.

I'm just waiting for quotes back on all three from a local place to see which they can get etc etc.

Silverstone tyres do the control tyre for the Lombard Endurance Rally which is a M&S tyre.

Just my 2 p's worth.. I decided to put some cheap falkens on the cupra.

People complain that they cant pull away on flat land with snow.. i pulled away UP HILL with these.. so if you want a cheap set for winter.. my be worth considering

I'm just removing a set of Falken 452 from my elegance, so won't be going with falken again for it.

In the end I've ordered a set of the Nokian All weather plus to be fitted some point shortly.

They're an all season tyre that also have the severe weather (snowflake in a mountain) symbol, so hopefully should see me good for all year round.

The Nokian seem to get good reviews (as do the quatrac 3, apart from fuel economy).

I'll write a review up once I've got them on the car

Also throwing another tyre into the Mix, I've been offered the following too:

goodyear vector 4seasons.

Any comments on these?

I was looking at these the other day. Something I found rather offputting was the Goodyear website lists the following different tyres:

Eagle Vector

Eagle Vector+

Vector 5

But if I google for "goodyear vector", some places are offering:

Vector 5+

So what are they selling, Vector+ or Vector 5, or something else not listed on the Goodyear site?!

It was confusing enough to make me decide that I'd probably avoid getting Goodyear (although I'm a long way off changing...) :thumbdwn:

Thanks guys, the Quatrac 3 are looking good then.

Anybody any comments on the ability of the Nokian WR all season tyres?

According to the Nokian website, the WR isn't an all season tyre, it's a winter tyre?

I'm just removing a set of Falken 452 from my elegance, so won't be going with falken again for it.

In the end I've ordered a set of the Nokian All weather plus to be fitted some point shortly.

They're an all season tyre that also have the severe weather (snowflake in a mountain) symbol, so hopefully should see me good for all year round.

The Nokian seem to get good reviews (as do the quatrac 3, apart from fuel economy).

I'll write a review up once I've got them on the car

Because of the nature of an All Weather/winter tyre( call it what you like) in that the tread is of a more blocky open type then I would think there will be a marked reduction in MPG in most if not all brands. Due to the extra rolling resistance.

Best way to demonstrate that to yourself would be to ride a mountain bike with original knobbly tyres then change them to road tyres (slicks) It most certainly takes a lot less effort to pedal.

With you Nokians as with my Quatrac 3's I'll be interested to know how much the wear rate increase when the milder weather comes.

Re the Nokian tyres, I called them up and they said they were suited to all seasons, but since they also have the snowflake in a mountain approval they class them as winter as they meet the requirements.

They would probably suffer somewhere like california where you have long hot (over 35*C) summers but in the UK things should hopefully be fine.

Re the goodyears. I had a similar situation and decided to give up when the reviews state some are pure winter some are all season and the sellers don't know which they are selling.

Re the MPG, I agree however the nokians seem to score much higher on this than the quatracs. Speaking to somebody who switched from factory bridgestones of nokians they say the MPG if anything has marginally improved, which can't be a bad thing.

I was going to get the quatrac 3 initially, but it appears the entire UK stock of them was used up in the last week so they are now on order, to turn up "whenever a shipment comes over, probably 3 weeks +" according to the tyre place.

Re the wear issues, I'll certainly be keeping an eye on this as it's obviously of concern, but I do see good things written by European users and those in canada/US who use them all year around.

Personally I just wish they were on the car already as the roads have a lot of standing water which isn't the most pleasant of things to drive through, especially with "Mr Invincible" up your chuff in a van

Edited 10 February, 200917 yr by cheezemonkhai

I'd get Vredestein Nordtrac or Wintrac for winter driving, they are better than the Nokian.

The Quattrac are a good all round tyre but for October to March driving i always switch over to 4 Vredestein Wintracs although i would like Nordtracs if they would improve there size range.

I'd get Vredestein Nordtrac or Wintrac for winter driving, they are better than the Nokian.

The Quattrac are a good all round tyre but for October to March driving i always switch over to 4 Vredestein Wintracs although i would like Nordtracs if they would improve there size range.

What would put you off the Quattrac for all-season use?

Re the Nokian tyres, I called them up and they said they were suited to all seasons, but since they also have the snowflake in a mountain approval they class them as winter as they meet the requirements.

Re the goodyears. I had a similar situation and decided to give up when the reviews state some are pure winter some are all season and the sellers don't know which they are selling.

The Quattracs also have a snowflake/mountain symbol though, and they don't class them as winter tyres? That suggests your tyres might be compromised in a hot summer (I wish)?

Agree re: Goodyears! Completely stupid really, it's asking for this kind of confusion when you give different tyres very similar names :thumbdwn:

The Quatracs don't have the snowflake on a mountain symbol but just a snowflake along with the sun and other items. I was curious and so phoned up Vredestein UK who actually looked at the tyre in the warehouse to confirm this. The snowflake in a mountain is a Canadian standard for winter tyres.

I'm sure the quatrac3 is perfectly adequate all year around and it will be very interesting to run a thread with people running these to post back review comments and see what everyone thinks.

From what I've read the nokian all weather plus is a good tyre all year around. No it won't give the same ultimate handling in the dry summer roads as something like pilot sport or flaken 452 etc, but at the same time they are next to useless in the snowy and icy conditions so I'd rather have something that works pretty well in both than great in one and useless in the other.

At the same time, it appears that they are not destroyed by a Californian summer, so fingers crossed on that front too.

Essentially any all seasons tyre is a compromise as no one tyre can be the best in all seasons.

Having now been in a car wearing Nokians I can say they seem very good in the cool dry conditions and apparently the car was embarrassing 4x4's on the wrong tyres a few weeks back.

Still they are here now, so hopefully I'll get them fitted in the next few days and will be able to get some initial feed back soon

Edited 16 February, 200917 yr by cheezemonkhai

I'd get Vredestein Nordtrac or Wintrac for winter driving, they are better than the Nokian.

The Quattrac are a good all round tyre but for October to March driving i always switch over to 4 Vredestein Wintracs although i would like Nordtracs if they would improve there size range.

That's not what I've been reading and the Nordtacs are not really suited to UK roads IMHO. I have to say I think i'd trust a tyre company from Finland to make tyres that are well suited to driving in European winters.

I have to say also that I'm not looking for a set of summer tyres and winter tyres. If I was in that market I'd keep the falken 452 for summer and run something like the Hakka R or Wintracs over the winter.

No disrespect to Vredestein by that statement, but another problem I found was actually getting hold of Vredestein tyres is a right pain. Tried it a few times and each time it's been stock in in whenever.

The Quatracs don't have the snowflake on a mountain symbol but just a snowflake along with the sun and other items. I was curious and so phoned up Vredestein UK who actually looked at the tyre in the warehouse to confirm this. The snowflake in a mountain is a Canadian standard for winter tyres.

I'm sure the quatrac3 is perfectly adequate all year around and it will be very interesting to run a thread with people running these to post back review comments and see what everyone thinks.

From what I've read the nokian all weather plus is a good tyre all year around. No it won't give the same ultimate handling in the dry summer roads as something like pilot sport or flaken 452 etc, but at the same time they are next to useless in the snowy and icy conditions.

At the same time, it appears that they are not destroyed by a Californian summer, so fingers crossed on that front too.

Essentially any all seasons tyre is a compromise as no one tyre can be the best in all seasons.

Having now been in a car wearing Nokians I can say they seem very good in the cool dry conditions and apparently the car was embarrassing 4x4's on the wrong tyres a few weeks back.

Still they are here now, so hopefully I'll get them fitted in the next few days and will be able to get some initial feed back soon

Are you sure about this re: Quatrac 2/3? The Vredestein website seems to indicate otherwise?

It says:

"The Quatrac 3 bears the Snowflake and M&S symbols [is that the Canadian symbol you mention?]"

The Quatrac 2 page actually shows a symbol that is a snowflake inside a mountain, I assume that's the Canadian symbol?

I think we have a crossed line with regard to the Nokians! When I said they weren't all-season, I was talking about the WR which you originally asked about, but I see you've bought "all weather plus"? Are these the same tyre?