I've just recently bought a additive called 'Rhino Diesel',   and I will start to use this after I finish off my bottle of Millers Ecomax.

 

 

The Rhino Diesel seems to get pages and pages of positive write ups on the internet over various forums.    The claims that it can turn regular diesel into Premium diesel for a fraction of the cost. 

 

we shall see....

 

 Lots of forums suggest that Millers and Rhino Diesel are just 2ehn, with a cheap bulking agent, which is a cetane increaser that can be bought in its pure form off a certain website. 2ehn has also been discussed on here-

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/201887-2ehn-cetane-improver-instead-of-millers/?hl=%2B2ehn#entry2394949

I have no problem with using a Cetane enhancer although I doubt it'll do much for a standard PD or CR engine since they don't suffer from 'knock' like old tech diesels due to the much finer fuel atomisation.

 

I still haven't seen ANY satisfactory explanation for adding two-stroke oil to modern diesel engines and can't see any reason to do so, there's nothing to lubricate and it will increase fuel droplet size slightly, lower the ignition velocity and reduce the calorific value.

 

You can bet that the fuel manufacturers would have pounced on it for their premium fuels if there was an advantage they could legally advertise, you can also bet that their labs will have tested every conceivable additive known to man in the quest for a competitive commercial advantage.

 

They don't use it because it doesn't do anything. End of.

I have no problem with using a Cetane enhancer although I doubt it'll do much for a standard PD or CR engine since they don't suffer from 'knock' like old tech diesels due to the much finer fuel atomisation.

 

I still haven't seen ANY satisfactory explanation for adding two-stroke oil to modern diesel engines and can't see any reason to do so, there's nothing to lubricate and it will increase fuel droplet size slightly, lower the ignition velocity and reduce the calorific value.

 

You can bet that the fuel manufacturers would have pounced on it for their premium fuels if there was an advantage they could legally advertise, you can also bet that their labs will have tested every conceivable additive known to man in the quest for a competitive commercial advantage.

They don't use it because it doesn't do anything. End of.

If the fuel companies find a great additive, then it may not be suitable for all engines ever built. I can see in time, that the fuel pumps will use No. Plate recognition, and only dispense the correct fuel, petrol or diesel, with the correct additive for that vehicle.

I use two stroke oil in my older 4x4 direct injection, old technology, that could run on veg oil, if I wanted to, and when added to diesel, does seem to quieten the engine down a little.

On the Picasso website, it was not recommended to use 2 stroke oil on their hdi engines, so I never did.

I read on another forum, that two stroke oil is the main component to some well known fuel additive... that also looks red in the bottle.

I cannot confirm that, but it had been mentioned...

If the fuel companies find a great additive, then it may not be suitable for all engines ever built. I can see in time, that the fuel pumps will use No. Plate recognition, and only dispense the correct fuel, petrol or diesel, with the correct additive for that vehicle.

I use two stroke oil in my older 4x4 direct injection, old technology, that could run on veg oil, if I wanted to, and when added to diesel, does seem to quieten the engine down a little.

On the Picasso website, it was not recommended to use 2 stroke oil on their hdi engines, so I never did.

I read on another forum, that two stroke oil is the main component to some well known fuel additive... that also looks red in the bottle.

I cannot confirm that, but it had been mentioned...

SoME highly tuned petrols (soemthing like a focus st with a good map) are tuned to run on a specific fuel due the more dangers of petrol engines. But diesels are allot safer to run on any fuel. You wont be seeing number plate recognition ever. The money it would cost would be to great and if their was some wonder fuel it would work on alll engines. (Suck squeeze bang blow) unless im missing some unknown engine

more of the placebo effect of adding fuel additive that the actual gains from it. If it was slipped into your tank without knowing. Youd not be able to tell. Maybe give your bottle of additive to your missus or friend and say "go get fuel and maybe put the additive in the tank and maybe dont. But dont tell me if you do " you wont tell if the additive is in

Putting oil addatives in the oil and fuel addatives in the fuel works best for me. ;

Anyone who still wants to use 2 stroke oil. Have a quick google or youtube how a 2 stroke engine works. You will see what fuel also does on a 2 stroke

Edited 20 December, 201411 yr by fletch101

Putting oil addatives in the oil and fuel addatives in the fuel works best for me. ;

Anyone who still wants to use 2 stroke oil. Have a quick google or youtube how a 2 stroke engine works. You will see what fuel also does on a 2 stroke

 

To be fair fletch two-stroke oil is designed to be premixed with the petrol for two-stroke competition and vintage engines and garden machinery, it's only certain road bikes that have a separate oil injection pump.

To be fair fletch two-stroke oil is designed to be premixed with the petrol for two-stroke competition and vintage engines and garden machinery, it's only certain road bikes that have a separate oil injection pump.

Yeh I was abit confusing their. But even so wouldn't add an oil Into my fuel. It may not even mix the same as petrol and with the fuel pressures and tolerances being so much finer in diesels. I wouldnt like to add an oil

unless you have a two stroke diesel from the 1950's ofcourse

unless you have a two stroke diesel from the 1950's ofcourse

 

They don't use two-stroke oil, they use a separate supercharger rather than crankcase displacement, so the crank and rods are lubricated conventionally like a four-stroke.

 

However, you're right. putting oil in the fuel of a four-stroke engine is retarded and has no theoretical basis in reality at all.

Loads of positive write ups about adding 2 stroke to diesels, I do it in my 3 cars, Rover 75, Disco '96 and Octy 110hp 2003