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vRS on the dyno today - results and post your own!

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Shark Performance Stage 2 remap, Milltek Hi-Flow downpipe and sports cat + cat back exhaust, Neuspeed CAI with extension pipe to bumper. Standard HPFP.

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262bhp and 275lb/ft torque. As you can see this is on a Dyno Dynamics dyno in Shootout mode.

Many cars made less than expected on the day. A guy there with a 2.0TFSi S3 (265PS standard) with a Superchips Bluefin Stg 1 and EVOMS only made 260bhp :eek:

Feel free to post other graphs in here for comparison purposes, I'd be interested to see how I fare :thumbup:

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Where was this Ben?

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Linden Special Vehicles in Wellingborough.

Back from the honey moon already!?

I can comfirm that 262bhp is rather rapid :D

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Yep, unfortunately back already :( Not sure I could afford many more nights in Dublin to be honest!

now then ben, whats next intercooler and pump upgrade? ive got the intercooler i was telling you about but not fitted it yet ( not enough hours in the day!!!! ) it looks bloody massive compared to the standard unit, ive also acquired a brand new pump to do the kit upgrade just waiting for some spare cash to get the kit. ive been experimenting, i had a forge intake pipe fitted with the extension pipe on just below the n/s/f wheel arch like yours it went ok but i changed it back to the standard air box and k+n panel filter set up and i think it goes better due to the fact the standard set up receives ram air affect and the induction kit relies on engine suction sounds silly but i am into sports bikes and they rely on ram air induction and if you remove that and fit open filters (like a induction kit) they loose power. the reason i tried it was down to a chap i was talking to who sprints a bwa engined powered fabia he tried both setups and he had got the same mods as us but on a dyno he was quoted the same bhp but more torque? (worth thinking about or trying) anyway when we had your car inat work i had a nosey at your brakes they look the dogs bo...cks very smart indeed. take care mate, regards Phil.

What a nice curves :thumbup: Over 250bhp from 4900 to 6800! :eek: Also torque is almost flat.

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now then ben, whats next intercooler and pump upgrade? ive got the intercooler i was telling you about but not fitted it yet ( not enough hours in the day!!!! ) it looks bloody massive compared to the standard unit, ive also acquired a brand new pump to do the kit upgrade just waiting for some spare cash to get the kit. ive been experimenting, i had a forge intake pipe fitted with the extension pipe on just below the n/s/f wheel arch like yours it went ok but i changed it back to the standard air box and k+n panel filter set up and i think it goes better due to the fact the standard set up receives ram air affect and the induction kit relies on engine suction sounds silly but i am into sports bikes and they rely on ram air induction and if you remove that and fit open filters (like a induction kit) they loose power. the reason i tried it was down to a chap i was talking to who sprints a bwa engined powered fabia he tried both setups and he had got the same mods as us but on a dyno he was quoted the same bhp but more torque? (worth thinking about or trying) anyway when we had your car inat work i had a nosey at your brakes they look the dogs bo...cks very smart indeed. take care mate, regards Phil.

Hi Phil

Thanks for the kind words on the brakes mate! I love them but the pads are rubbish.. need to sort out a remortgage for some Ferodo DS2500s and then I should be sorted.

Really interested in the intercooler that you've been working on.. need to have a chat with you about it really but always wary of keeping you off the ramp at work!!

As for the intake.. I definitely saw an improvement in the car at the top end with the cold air intake on, but I am thinking about trying to get a scoop the the lower right grille to force air into the filter. I'm a bit worried about water getting in though.

Definitely interested in the intercooler.. jury's still out for me on the fuel pump mod as I'm not sure it's worth the £££ and the car's a handful to drive already, especially in the wet.

See you soon!

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What a nice curves :thumbup: Over 250bhp from 4900 to 6800! :eek: Also torque is almost flat.

Thanks magic62 :thumbup:

I'm pretty pleased with how well it's come out, I thought it was going to make a tad more power but the curves are what matters :D

That looks to be a fine result indeed, with the mods you're running :thumbup:

Steve

Thanks magic62 :thumbup:

I'm pretty pleased with how well it's come out, I thought it was going to make a tad more power but the curves are what matters :D

Whats in a number? It is the driveability that counts, power is nothing without control.

And looking at your curves (:D), the car must have ooomph without being nasty.

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It would be nice to see some more graphs for comparison, if anyone would like to join the party?

I was taking to a mate who worked at a well know "tuning" place. He told me how they used to get the cars a hot as possible when taking the BHP reading before the conversion and then take a run with the engine stone cold and with 2 fans blowing into the engine when taking the modified reading.

Now I'm not saying that this is common practice, but it opened my eyes.

I must admit I did think the torque curve looks a little suspect. If anything very low early on for a K03 car.

This is my old one running Revo stage 1

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And Mr Fish's all conquering beast. (Early version)

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And the final version (don't try this at home)

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It can make a big difference.. my car had been sat running for about 15 minutes as the operator was having a ciggie break just before my car went on. IAT at idle went up to 60 degrees C in the logs.. obviously that cooled down a bit once it was infront of the fans on the rollers.

The good thing about this run is that it was done at an open rolling road day with 25 or so other cars with absolutely no operator bias :thumbup:

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Hedge: What mods were present on each run? The scale on your graphs is different, my graph doesn't start until 2500 revs and so is comparable to yours.

There are loads of them on the JKM gallery (cue Tony Hart theme tune).

But the top one is entirely standard, the second Revo stage 2, TBE and Carbonio and the third EVOMS, TBE, fuel pump, etc, etc.

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So mine is most comparable to the second graph? The torque seems rather high on that.

So mine is most comparable to the second graph? The torque seems rather high on that.

In fairness, as I said, I think your torque curve looks like theres a bit missing.;)

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I wonder why it only starts there then? Who knows... I did call JKM to see if I could get it in with them as I was down the other day, but they couldn't fit me in and said I'd need to book in advance which isn't really something I can always do.

I must admit I did think the torque curve looks a little suspect. If anything very low early on for a K03 car.

This is my old one running Revo stage 1

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I think that is where the money goes with Revo - that's an impressive looking torque curve for a Stage 1. My own experience on JKM's RR with a non-Revo Stage I showed a reasonable bhp figure but the torque, whilst a nice smooth curve, did not get over 240 lb/ft...

http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/Misc/Gallery/rollingroaddays/SCN%2019%2009%2009/Dyno%20Graphs/VST.gif

...pity as I would much rather swap a few bhp for the torque that you were seeing!:rolleyes:

In fact, 300 lb/ft on a Stage 1....is that right? I don't disbelieve you as it's right there but you don't see that on many of the Stage 2's with Shark_90's above being a case in point.

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asked a question on Hedge's mods that was already answered

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My own experience on JKM's RR with a non-Revo Stage I showed a reasonable bhp figure but the torque, whilst a nice smooth curve, did not get over 240 lb/ft...

Is that with a remap or standard? Standard torque is 207lb/ft.

Sorry, added that detail on a re-edit.

I think that is where the money goes with Revo - that's an impressive looking torque curve for a Stage 1. My own experience on JKM's RR with a non-Revo Stage I showed a reasonable bhp figure but the torque, whilst a nice smooth curve, did not get over 240 lb/ft...

http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/Misc/Gallery/rollingroaddays/SCN%2019%2009%2009/Dyno%20Graphs/VST.gif

...pity as I would much rather swap a few bhp for the torque that you were seeing!:rolleyes:

In fact, 300 lb/ft on a Stage 1....is that right? I don't disbelieve you as it's right there but you don't see that on many of the Stage 2's with Shark_90's above being a case in point.

I was there on Saturday when you ran.

Small, unassuming chap that commented he used to have one of these. ;)

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300lb/ft does seem high to me. It's also a bit "all-or-nothing" looking at Hedge's graph with a big wheelspinning surge right at the beginning and it does tail off quickly.

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