vRS hate

[Lady Elanore]

True, although i've only read a small segment of the thread. I'm one of these 'young drivers' at 19, and yes, I agree, spirited driving is always nice, and I don't condone out and out racing. Wheelspinning off the lights, nailing it round busy roads/towns etc is down right dangerous. But having a few short blasts, in a friendly manner, with another road user that's clearly in the same mindset as you, is, imo, not awfully dangerous, and a good laugh.

I generally give them a friendly wave or flash if they're turning off, or if they're carrying on their merry way at whatever speed they wish.

You should read the post of the morons before you. Baiting drivers so you can come on here and boast how you burnt them off (even though only one of them was ‘racing’) is stupid in the extreme. Perhaps the drivers are talking about playing on their Playstations and I have got it wrong?

[CJS-90]

Haha, maybe they're talking about the dreams they have at night. Baiting is down right childish really. I can see how it may be fun, however the dangers outweigh any other part related to doing it, so I don't think it's a very clever idea...

To be fair, I do bait some people sometimes...............people in cars like Ferarris, Lambo's, big V8's/10's/12's, generally just to wind my window down and hear it roar :p

Edited 1 April, 2010 by CJS-90

[Lady Elanore]

Hopefully they will own up to be talking about racing their little pedal cars around the playground and so I have a big misunderstanding of the situation.

Edited 1 April, 2010 by Lady Elanore

[CJS-90]

Fingers crossed...

[matt_theforce]

Surely there's a reason you tune your car...

Everyone's reason is different though. My last car was quite well modded and had a healthy 50+ bhp and 100lbft+ torque extra but at the same time returned over 7mpg more than when I bought it , that was one of my reasons to modify it also I wasn't ready for a full on family car and still wanted something a little special and its also nice to be able to enjoy a spirited drive within the legal limits and when I am on my own so as to not endanger other drivers/cyclists/horse riders etc.

Any kind of driving has it's dangers however purposly encouraging bad/dangerous driving is NOT acceptable, it's something that you learn as you grow/age and even more so when you start a family.

[CJS-90]

Any kind of driving has it's dangers however purposly encouraging bad/dangerous driving is NOT acceptable, it's something that you learn as you grow/age and even more so when you start a family.

It's a shame that a high percentage of young drivers learn this the hard way.

[ChrisRs]

Well said Amanda!!

[micklecats]

Well said Amanda, again.

With this kind of chat, its no surprise so many people lose their lives on the roads.

[grr666]

What is this? Grown up Gran turismo??

I feel for the people involved but I'm afraid here's what happens

when you treat driving a car like you're playing a video game. :(

http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1667645?UserKey=

Take it easy out there folks...

Edited 1 April, 2010 by grr666

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http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/156966-bad-times/

[martinch]

Agree with Amanda - there's enough silly people on the roads as-is ... speaking as a "new" driver (6 months), I wish people would just drive sensibly (not driving up other's backsides, not overtaking into oncoming traffic, etc) ... it would make everyone's life easier (and me a lot more relaxed!!)

Any kind of driving has it's dangers however purposly encouraging bad/dangerous driving is NOT acceptable, it's something that you learn as you grow/age and even more so when you start a family.

Yup ... there's a chap near me that falls into this category ... passed their test same time as me (but about 10 years younger), and has been through 4 cars - basically killed them by driving them too hard (all of them have been dented within a couple of weeks, all sound over-revved).

[vRSsunroof]

You should read the post of the morons before you. Baiting drivers so you can come on here and boast how you burnt them off (even though only one of them was ‘racing’) is stupid in the extreme. Perhaps the drivers are talking about playing on their Playstations and I have got it wrong?

Sorry i dissagree They are not Baiting People, if you read a large number of the threads, EG... sat overtaking lorrys on a duel carrageway with the cruse set to 70mph......

That sounds like me he is driving within the law, and the other idiots on the road cause them to take ovasive action.

They then take it into there own hands on how to deal with the situation, I hope they understand anything that happens it is in there hands to own up to making the mistake. (not at the side of the road though as insurance dont like this) just to be a little grown up, if you want to play, and you make a mistake its your fault.

The only time i have ever done anyhting like this is on an open road so i know if someone go hurt it was myself, and the 3rd party. Not the genral Public.

This bit me hard, i let loose on an open road, duel carrage way 30mph, i was the only one on the road, no one on the path on foot, police with speed gun caught me! I didnt dispute, i knew i was in the wrong, i got caught. i have nothing to hide. i ended up £60 down and +3 points. i was lucky. i took the risk. no-one got hurt.

I just hope you are all have the kahooners to own up if something goes rong, as you know the **** in the other car will be a child about it and sue you, and %90 of the time if you own up straight away the punishment isnt as half as bad as if you fight it!

[robmawer]

That sounds like me he is driving within the law, and the other idiots on the road cause them to take ovasive action.

Maybe. Or maybe they're driving in an aggressive manner beneath the speed limit. Dunno...if I was experiencing that much confrontation on the road I'd be taking a long hard look at my actions to see if I could reduce the provocation of other drivers, rather than attributing it to people hating my car.

[M12MKD]

Like I said in my first post I have more problems and ****ness (is that a word?) from middle-aged men than I would from any so called "boyracer".

Do I burnaway with them? No, just carry on driving infact in the last month the only person I've been on the end of road rage was a rather old chap with a flat cap who was driving just like the so called "kids playing on play stations" honestly the guy needs his licence revoked before he kills someone!

Anyway with the price of fuel nowdays its too expensive to "rag it"

[vRSsunroof]

Maybe. Or maybe they're driving in an aggressive manner beneath the speed limit. Dunno...if I was experiencing that much confrontation on the road I'd be taking a long hard look at my actions to see if I could reduce the provocation of other drivers, rather than attributing it to people hating my car.

this also could be taken into account!

Like I said in my first post I have more problems and ****ness (is that a word?) from middle-aged men than I would from any so called "boyracer".

Do I burnaway with them? No, just carry on driving infact in the last month the only person I've been on the end of road rage was a rather old chap with a flat cap who was driving just like the so called "kids playing on play stations" honestly the guy needs his licence revoked before he kills someone!

Anyway with the price of fuel nowdays its too expensive to "rag it"

Got to love societys way of labeling all these manic drivers, this automaticllay makes them 'Young' or 'Boyracers' all becasue Statistics show you are more likely to have an accedent in your first year of driving 'Due to lack of experance' this then will give you something to say about driving lessons/Tests.

Wiki : Boy racers refers to people, usually males in their late teens or early twenties, who "cruise" around in vehicles modified with loud exhausts and stereos, and/or modified body kits. This behavior is frowned upon by members of the public irritated by the noise and the criminal behavior associated with it,[1] including violence by skinhead and neonazi "boy racers".[2] Most such cars are usually slow, front-wheel drive economy cars which have been cosmetically modified in a dangerous manner.[3] Car enthusiasts who drive sporty cars, or those which have been modified to perform better, typically seek to distance themselves from the culture.[4] Responses to the boy racer problem range from laws prohibiting the antisocial activities they engage in to vigilante actions such as spraying expander foam, a common building supply, into boy racer cars with loud 'big-bore' exhaust tips to stop such cars driving around emitting loud droning noises.[5]

There are two main types of cruise: regular cruises, also known as meets, and one-off cruises. The events that take place are similar; cars meet in car parks, park up or cruise (drive slowly) around the car park while people socialise.

[Big Mikey]

Haha, I'm almost embarrassed reading some of the posts in this thread - if someone wants to pass you in a Beamer or something other than a Skoda, whether it might be slightly more or less powerful than your vehicle, just them and don't think any more about it! Undertaking, driving at 70 with the cruise on in the overtaking lane, burning people off from roundabouts, deliberately braking when someone flashes you, not to mention the borderline racist post about people from France - it all adds up to one thing - driving like a white baseball cap wearing Max Power reading idiot with a flamer kit on your exhaust and a bonnet vent off a Kia Sedona. Just because you watch Top Gear doesn't mean you should want to be anything like Jeremy Clarkson. If some of you really do drive in the manner you are describing you're on a fast track to a Notice Of Intended Prosecution through your door at best and at worst, your final drive is likely to be a fairly slow one in long black car customised with lilies rather than blue washer jet neons.

[PeteVRS]

I've found it tends to be one extreme or the other, either people just don't realise it's a fairly quick car, I mean it looks pretty anonymous, or some take exception to being passed, but I'm not sure these days whether this is because "it's a skoda" because it is so well know they're from the VAG group. For example when I bought my vRS a few years ago I got the Skoda jokes, now I rarely hear that, it's "Oh they're supposed to be really good these days, Golf or Audi parts and cheaper". I do feel a lot safer in my vRS than I would in a Focus RS or other blingy "RACE ME" car.

It's really important not to add to the problems by retaliating on the road, you're playing with your lives and others. I've no doubt this same thread is being played out on other car forums each one slagging off a different brand. I have to say I have had equally bad experiences with other Skoda drivers on the road as any other make!

[Lady Elanore]

Sorry i dissagree They are not Baiting People, if you read a large number of the threads, EG... sat overtaking lorrys on a duel carrageway with the cruse set to 70mph......

That sounds like me he is driving within the law, and the other idiots on the road cause them to take ovasive action.

They then take it into there own hands on how to deal with the situation, I hope they understand anything that happens it is in there hands to own up to making the mistake. (not at the side of the road though as insurance dont like this) just to be a little grown up, if you want to play, and you make a mistake its your fault.

The only time i have ever done anyhting like this is on an open road so i know if someone go hurt it was myself, and the 3rd party. Not the genral Public.

This bit me hard, i let loose on an open road, duel carrage way 30mph, i was the only one on the road, no one on the path on foot, police with speed gun caught me! I didnt dispute, i knew i was in the wrong, i got caught. i have nothing to hide. i ended up £60 down and +3 points. i was lucky. i took the risk. no-one got hurt.

I just hope you are all have the kahooners to own up if something goes rong, as you know the **** in the other car will be a child about it and sue you, and %90 of the time if you own up straight away the punishment isnt as half as bad as if you fight it!

You can not have read the same thread as me. There are postings of DELIBERATE provocation of other drivers. This is crazy. It is begging for entry into the Darwin awards and shows the immaturity of the people involved and the fact they see the rod as their private playground.

I also agree with Big Mikey that there is some unpleasant borderline racist talk in the French posting. The tone of what was said to a Frenchman was reprehensible and it’s a shame the French guy didn’t get out the car and firmly explain the ‘facts of life’ over there.

[MartynVRS]

It maybe a vRS thing. I always find Mini's in particular don't like being overtaken by vRS's. Although some people just don't like being overtaken. During my younger days I once overtook an Audi TT 3.2V6 on a single carriageway at speed in my old Polo (I didnt slow down on approach saw there was nothing there and instead of slowing down overtook.) He dropped a cog and booted after me. There was a long right hand bend which he tried to overtake on while flashing his lights and beeping. The bend is totally blind and if something had come the otherway he would have taken us all out. So I hugged the center line until it came to the straight and let him past. Some people don't like being overtaken especially if the believe if their car is superior.

[Lady Elanore]

I think some of the vRS posters in this thread have exactly the above problem.

Bottom line is some vRS drivers have a suitably large chip on their shoulder (as many people don’t realise just how ‘superior’ their car is) and feel they must demonstrate the fact, or at the very least, wind up the other driver with a senseless piece of dangerous driving. They are no better and often worse than people they decry. I feel sorry for the many decent vRS drivers on here that have tuned up their cars and know how to enjoy them sensibly. Sorry guys, you are being dragged down by a few individuals in here.

[Leodhasach]

I fall under the category of 'young driver', being a 19 year old male. I had a peculiar encounter with a 'modified' (cheap alloys and trash can exhaust, it's probably his pride and joy though so fair enough) on the M8 near Wishaw yesterday. I was sat with the cruise control set at 70mph in the left hand lane, and he comes tearing up behind me, flashing the lights and beeping the horn. I look in the mirror, and he's gesturing me to floor it.

What did I do?

Nothing.

I stayed at 70 until he got bored and overtook to harass somebody else.

I know my car would probably have been quicker than his (even if not, who cares?), but these days I tend to drive much like the way I try to live, i.e. not feeling the need to prove anything to anyone.

I just like the fact my car is different, not because it's rapid and will burn everything (because, as nippy as it is, it won't).

Although I was never an insane driver, this accident I was involved in really reinforced this view:

Be careful out there guys!

Edited 1 April, 2010 by Leodhasach

[mstride]

how do people know the other car is really trying, in the end its only a skoda... my mates used to spend small fortunes on modifying their astras, 306s e.t.c, in the end i spent less money bought a vrS and got more car for my money!

if i were mr plod i'd be reading this with interest and seeing who has put photos of their cars up

end of the day its a public road, grow up, otherwise explain it to families of RTA victims

[vRSsunroof]

thats what i mean by if your going to do it then take responisibility, if you drive like this and kill the other person, are you man enough to go and tell that persons familey you killed them?????

if your not.......then why do it............

im not going to start a rant that you should never do it! your gonna kill someone! blah blah blah......... just because i know people will ither agree to shut me up then go and do it, or tell me to get lost and go and do it.

but im not saying people should do it, if you are going to do it then take the responisilbility of your actions if you think you can showed in the way you drive, and when you kill someone, tell the officer on the scene 'do you mind if i come to the house to tell the parents/kids/brother/sister/dog/cat/goldfish and hamster (delete where aproprate) that i was the reason jonny wont be home tonight'

just be carefull everyone! Mesure think twice, cut Act once!

And yes a lot of people do have a problem with them seen it with a clio 182 and a raddo Storm ( lfc958 )

Who likes the middle lane hog game?!!?

Edited 1 April, 2010 by MiniPip

[Lady Elanore]

I fall under the category of 'young driver', being a 19 year old male. I had a peculiar encounter with a 'modified' (cheap alloys and trash can exhaust, it's probably his pride and joy though so fair enough) on the M8 near Wishaw yesterday. I was sat with the cruise control set at 70mph in the left hand lane, and he comes tearing up behind me, flashing the lights and beeping the horn. I look in the mirror, and he's gesturing me to floor it.

What did I do?

Nothing.

I stayed at 70 until he got bored and overtook to harass somebody else.

I know my car would probably have been quicker than his (even if not, who cares?), but these days I tend to drive much like the way I try to live, i.e. not feeling the need to prove anything to anyone.

I just like the fact my car is different, not because it's rapid and will burn everything (because, as nippy as it is, it won't).

Although I was never an insane driver, this accident I was involved in really reinforced this view:

Be careful out there guys!

Mature posting

I’m sure when the time is right you enjoy a bit of spirited driving (I certainly do, as some Brisky folk can testify) but it sounds like you have willy waving well under control .

I’m no saint and do on occasion, drive in a spirited manner. Hopefully when I do, it is not to the detriment of other road users and if it is in tandem with another vehicle ,we know each other and progress in a safe manner. What we don’t do, is involve other road users in the collateral damage from us driving like we have a death wish and the need to prove our ‘superiority’.

[Thirdtimeluck]

Wow 4 pages...

Some of the stories posted here are indeed a little "uncool"

At the end of the day its all about having "fun" in the right place at the right time. (road conditions, traffic, visibility etc)

And without inconveniencing other motorists.

If everyone abided to these few simple rules the roads would be a safer place.