I have just receive my new 1.4 tsi DSG Octavia last week.

Did already 375 miles,

I was a little disappointed from the fuel consumption as it did average 24 MPG both high way and city.(1\3 high way)

I didn't push the engine at all and driving very easily,

I wonder if it is because its new?

I read here about 48 MPG,can I wish it?

Please let me know your average...

Thanks,

Yaniv

I have just receive my new 1.4 tsi DSG Octavia last week.

Did already 375 miles,

I was a little disappointed from the fuel consumption as it did average 24 MPG both high way and city.(1\3 high way)

I didn't push the engine at all and driving very easily,

I wonder if it is because its new?

I read here about 48 MPG,can I wish it?

Please let me know your average...

Thanks,

Yaniv

First things first Yaniv, how did you measure it? That is, was your car definitely brimmed upon collection and did you brim it again after 375 miles? Or did you simply believe your dashboard readout? If you can't be sure that it was brimmed at either end and until your dashboard readout is corroborated by brim to brim analysis over a longer distance, then you can't rely on the accuracy of the 24 mpg figure.

If however you're confident that your 24 mpg is accurate, then this is VERY low, even allowing for the engine to settle in.

I've several thousand miles on mine over 3 months and with a mixture of largely driving gently (but no less slowly in terms of overall journey time) with a few spirited 'foot to the floor' moments in most journeys (when joining motorways, overtaking on A roads, that sort of thing) and the overall consumption is 41-42mpg. On one VERY long motorway journey driving at a fairly constant 60-65mph I achieved 47-48mpg. But such journeys aren't the norm for most people. On one brim to brim (almost a full tank) when I consciously drove like a madman most of the time, the consumption fell to 30 mpg. On another brim to brim, when I relegated thoughts of economy to the back of my mind and drove without thinking (ie. not as a madman but 'in a spirited manner') most of the time, I got 35mpg.

Sorry I can't be more definitive. As I've said in other posts, anyone buying an Octavia with this engine thinking that it might have super economy to match the good performance may be disappointed.

Buy this car with a mindset of getting the equivalent of a good 1.8 petrol engine performance with economy of: (1) low 40s mpg overall if you drive for the most part conservatively; or (2) 35 mpg if you tend to shift it a bit in most journeys; and you won't be disappointed.

Did two 120 mile motorway journeys yesterday and got 42mpg on one and 44mpg on the other. Car's done just over 2000 miles. I wasn't getting in the 40's until the car had done at least 1200 miles so give it a chance

Edited 14 May, 201016 yr by GroundHog

Have you tried measuring in the city?

Do you get more then 24MPG?

Or combined 1/3 motorway and the rest city traffic?

Thanks,

Yaniv

Have you tried measuring in the city?

Do you get more then 24MPG?

Or combined 1/3 motorway and the rest city traffic?

Thanks,

Yaniv

No, my normal weekday to work return journey would comprise a small proportion (say 10%) city traffic, with the remainder split between some motorway and mainly A and B roads. Even allowing for the proportion of your city traffic, your consumption is disappointing, especially as it seems you are driving to maximise your economy. The proof of the pudding will be when you do your first longer bout of non-city travel...

I've done about 1000 miles in my Octavia since may, and the computer says an average of 43 mpg. I do mainly city / mixed driving, but with some long journeys in between. By just driving in the city, the computer reads about 36-37 mpg, and on the longer journeys I'm getting about 50 mpg. There's always two persons in the car, sometimes three and some luggage as well. I still haven't checked the computer for misreading. Will check when the engine has settled more in, after a few thousand more miles. I mostly try to drive economical (cruise control etc.)

I previously owned a Honda Civic 1.8 petrol, and the consumption on the Octavia seem to be very equal compared to the Civic so far.

Edit - forgot to mention that mine's got the DSG gearbox.

Edited 20 July, 201114 yr by mortenm

My 1.4 TSi Manual has done 11,300 miles now, and I have kept a record of its fuel top ups since new. My motoring is a mix of commuting 11 miles each way, and weekend and holiday driving, a mix of motorway and main roads.

My overall consumption, since new, has been 43 mpg. It started off at about 30, eased up towards 40 over the first 7000 miles, and then went into the 40's from then on.

My maxidot is pretty accurate as far as mpg is concerned. Often it will be with 1-2 mpg of the actual brim to brim calculation.

That's low. I get an indicated 26-27 MPH in city driving in my 1.8 TSI. It's much better on a long run of course evening out at 41 - 42 indicated with 1/3 city and 2/3rd's motorway (brim to brim figures show the computer is 1 - 1.5 MPG over optimistic).

I have had my 1.4TSi DSG for just over the year and done just short of 11000 miles and although I drive steadily most of the time I do a motorway journey about every 2 weeks. I am averaging 43-44mpg. That has improved over time so maybe after a few more miles on yours the average may go up, does sound a bit low though.

Hello Yaniv (shalom...)

I too am a bit disappointed with the fuel consumption of my 2011 1.2 TSI DSG Octavia.

After 2000 KM (about 1200 miles), I'm doing an average of about 13-14 km/L (or 33 MPG).

I'm disappointed because I thought I would get better MPG than this, as its not too far from what my previous car did (Citroen C4 1.6 auto) which was about 11 km/L.

I've been driving without air condition on most of the time (even though its very hot here lately)

and trying to drive evenly.

Have you been driving with A/C on? If so this might explain it.

It may be because our cars are pretty new, and the engine hasn't settled yet.

Tommorow I'm gonna refuel the car, and check whether it was worth it driving without A/C lately. Maxidot says I'm doing 13 km/L since last refuel.

I've had my 1.4 DSG estate for 12 months and done just over 20,000 miles. I've been ignoring the maxidot and simply taking the mpg from tankful to tankful by dividing the mileage driven by the amount of fuel put into the tank. I've been getting between 36.5 and 38.5 mpg. I commute 6 miles each way, don't do any city driving really and use cruise control at an indicated 76mph (about 71/72 on satnav) on motorways and dual cabbageways.

I think its acceptable but if I drive in a spirited fashion, the maxidot indicated average drops noticeably, unlike a diesel. And you have to use the paddles a lot if you want to get the best out of the engine because it doesn't have much torque.

Still, it cost £3000 less than the equivalent 2.0 CR diesel DSG and that's a lot of fuel. And its SO much more refined than a diesel. And its got a chain not an elastic band.

best

the dill

In the middle east are you using Imperial gallons (20 fluid ounces) or US gallons (16 fluid ounces)?

In the middle east are you using Imperial gallons (20 fluid ounces) or US gallons (16 fluid ounces)?

In general, we use liters, not gallons. I usually calculate my consumption as km/L, not MPG.

I don't know about Yaniv, but the numbers I stated are MPG using a km/L to MPG calculator.

I don't know which gallons the calc uses.

In general, we use liters, not gallons. I usually calculate my consumption as km/L, not MPG.

I don't know about Yaniv, but the numbers I stated are MPG using a km/L to MPG calculator.

I don't know which gallons the calc uses.

I makes a big difference!

An imperial gallon as used in UK is 4.546 litres so 10 km/l is 28.2mpg

A US gallon (as used on most convertors built into calculators) is 3.785 litres so 10 km/l is 23.5mpg

I fell foul of this when working in the chemical industry loading tankers. They would arrive with a dipstick calibrated in litres, the order was for 4000 gallons so I used the gallons to litres convertor that I found and loaded 15140 litres instead of 18180 ltres. Got away with it for quite a few deliveries before the customer complained.

I think it is safe to say that everyone on Briskoda who is quoting fuel consumption in mpg is using the imperial (UK) gallon.

If you have maxidot you can switch fuel consumption units in the readout between mpg(UK), mpg(US), km/l or l/100km

I was initialy a little disappointed with the mpg I was getting. But after the first 8,000 miles things improved considerably (I have now done just over 10,000 from new) and I am regularly getting 42 to 43 mpg on local runs and managed 49.7 mpg on a 200 mile round trip to North Wales recently. Auto Express calculated last week that you have to do more than 30,000 miles a year to even break even if you buy an Octavia diesel and of course the TSI engine is just so much more refined. A no-brainer - although the salesman at the Skoda dealers said that peopl bought the diesels without doing their arithmetic ....

I'm surprised how bad the Mpg is on the posts. Is the 1.4 too underpowered for a biggish car?. It sounds like the engine has to work too hard to make average progress. I guess Skoda fitted a Fabia engine into the Octavia & the slipper wearing test pilots achieve the published Mpg, but in real life you have to thrash the pants off it to keep up! Cant do much for longevity either...

I was initialy a little disappointed with the mpg I was getting. But after the first 8,000 miles things improved considerably (I have now done just over 10,000 from new) and I am regularly getting 42 to 43 mpg on local runs and managed 49.7 mpg on a 200 mile round trip to North Wales recently. Auto Express calculated last week that you have to do more than 30,000 miles a year to even break even if you buy an Octavia diesel and of course the TSI engine is just so much more refined. A no-brainer - although the salesman at the Skoda dealers said that peopl bought the diesels without doing their arithmetic ....

30000 miles a year to break even? What engines were they comparing? What was the time scale they were using for this comparison?

I looked at the 1.8 TSi and the petrol vRS before getting my diesel. From memory (I don't have the spreadsheet i used with me), over three years I only had to average 14000 miles a year for the diesel to break even over the petrol vRS and about 18000 miles a year to break even against the 1.8TSi (Elegance with sports suspension)

Anyway, as my 19month old car has just over 43k on the clock I'm not that far off the 30K a year Auto Express claim I need.

Agreed, you should do the sums before buying a diesel, especially if you're a low mileage driver but the 30K a year sounds high to me...

30000 miles a year to break even? What engines were they comparing? What was the time scale they were using for this comparison?

I looked at the 1.8 TSi and the petrol vRS before getting my diesel. From memory (I don't have the spreadsheet i used with me), over three years I only had to average 14000 miles a year for the diesel to break even over the petrol vRS and about 18000 miles a year to break even against the 1.8TSi (Elegance with sports suspension)

Anyway, as my 19month old car has just over 43k on the clock I'm not that far off the 30K a year Auto Express claim I need.

Agreed, you should do the sums before buying a diesel, especially if you're a low mileage driver but the 30K a year sounds high to me...

They compared Octavia Elegance 1.4TSI DSG and 2.0TDI DSG

It is covered in another thread that I can't find at the moment.

edit:

here it is

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/205083-realword-mpg-figures-petrol-and-diesel-vrs/page__view__findpost__p__2481878

That's low. I get an indicated 26-27 MPH in city driving in my 1.8 TSI. It's much better on a long run of course evening out at 41 - 42 indicated with 1/3 city and 2/3rd's motorway (brim to brim figures show the computer is 1 - 1.5 MPG over optimistic).

I'm surprised too. I can get 41-42 MPG from a 1.8TSI Scout on a 66% motorway route if I stick to the limits. I get 28-30 MPG on urban routes.

This thread has not sold the 1.4 to me at all.

I'm surprised how bad the Mpg is on the posts. Is the 1.4 too underpowered for a biggish car?. It sounds like the engine has to work too hard to make average progress. I guess Skoda fitted a Fabia engine into the Octavia & the slipper wearing test pilots achieve the published Mpg, but in real life you have to thrash the pants off it to keep up! Cant do much for longevity either...

Forget engine capacity, the 1.4 has 125PS and 200Nm torque

Not in VRS territory admittedly but it's enough for most folk

Don't forget they also do a 1.2 now - 105PS and 175Nm torque thingummies

Used my Dad's 1.4 TSi octy estate at the weekend for a drive, as my vRS was poorly. Considering I was making very good progress shall we say and by the time I got home the computer was saying 40mpg. So likely a proper calculation may be a few mpg less it's still a good figure IMO.

I makes a big difference!

An imperial gallon as used in UK is 4.546 litres so 10 km/l is 28.2mpg

A US gallon (as used on most convertors built into calculators) is 3.785 litres so 10 km/l is 23.5mpg

WOW, that explains it!

Sorry for the ignorance, but I didn't know that there is a difference (I thought a gallon is a gallon...).

Now I understand how most of you do around 40 MPG (UK ) which is about 14 km/L, which is not so far from what my Octy does, 13.5 km/L (or 38 UK MPG).

Thanks for the info. I'm a bit less worried now.

I'm surprised how bad the Mpg is on the posts. Is the 1.4 too underpowered for a biggish car?. It sounds like the engine has to work too hard to make average progress. I guess Skoda fitted a Fabia engine into the Octavia & the slipper wearing test pilots achieve the published Mpg, but in real life you have to thrash the pants off it to keep up! Cant do much for longevity either...

One thing is for sure, my 1.2 TSI does NOT feel underpowered!

Even when I need some real "push", the RPMs usually don't go above 3500.

I'm able to pass most 1.6 cars going uphill, without getting the revs to high.

The torque is great between 2000 and 3000 RPM, whith lots more power than I actually use.

Of course if you drive it like a race car, you will get bad MPG, but in everyday driving, I think that the fuel consumption is pretty good (although not as good as advertised by Skoda, but that true for every other carmaker too).

My previous car was a 1.6 auto Citroen C4. Driving the same route as I do with my Octy, the car felt underpowered uphill, and the MPG was around 30 MPG (UK gallons). My octy does the same route doing around 40 MPG, and feeling very powerfull.

Nearly a couple of years and 20,000 miles on the clock of my 1.4 tsi and I am happy to update everyone that, performance wise, the engine has not left we wanting in any aspect of normal driving, whether it be low down in town or at speed (within the legal limit of course!) there is a powerful linear delivery that would be expected of a competent larger engine. To give you some idea, I drove a VW 2.0l 115bhp a few years back and this 1.4 tsi feels as if it has longer legs. So to those of you who might wonder about the engine "struggling", or having to "thrash" the engine, wonder no more, those words don't fit into the vocabulary of this engine. If anything, you get the best oomph from this engine if you change up to a higher gear a bit earlier, rather than wringing more revs out of the lower gear.

Fuel consumption overall has been consistently average, not desperately disappointing or anything like that, but if you're expecting seriously good mpg figures from these modern VW tsi engines (I'm reading elsewhere that the 1.2tsi displays similar traits), you will be slightly disappointed. All my measurements were taken brim to brim, although in the event the onboard reading was within a couple of mpg.

I do about 10% town / city driving, the remainder split, say, 30% motorway, 60% A / B roads. No really hilly / mountainous stuff.

Overall, I am achieving 38 - 40 mpg without consciously trying (ie. my true normal consumption for what I would call a "brisk" driving style) .

If I'm consciously a bit gentler (still not pootling, but only allowing myself the odd really heavy quirt or two of juice in a journey, such as sailing up a motorway slip to join the traffic), I can achieve low 40s, say 41 - 43.

Only if trying on a much longer journey via motorway or quiet A / B roads will I get 45.

On the other hand, if I do a lot more gunning or additional town / city driving, I've seen below 35mpg.

Those are the scores on my doors, the overall ownership calculations for the 1.8 petrol or 1.6 diesel simply wouldn't have represented as good value for money over the miles I do.

Having now covered 15,500 miles from new I am now finding that fuel consumption from my 1.4 TSI estate is getting much better. Generally I get similar figures to the previous post, although on longer runs I am now regularly seeing around 48 mpg and when driving 110 miles to Leeds via M6/M62 a couple of weeks ago I manged 52.3 mpg (as heavy-ish traffic meant long distances at 60 to 65 mph). The ESSENTIAL factor is getting good fuel consumption from this engine is not to exceed 70 mph - cruising at 75 sees consumption drop to around 38 mpg and at 80 mph it is only 35 mpg (when my old BMW 528 is more economical). Similarly driving enthusiastically with no thought for economy (i.e. enjoying myself) drops consumption to 35-ish. At least you have the choice and getting 48+ isn't difficult in the right conditions.