As for shreadings89 and his wheelspin away from the cops, he is displaying a bit of online bravado. That'd be a straight up careless driving and he would have got less than 200yds down the road. At the very least it's a section 59 warning so it didn't happen like he says.

Yes cheezemonkhai sadly there is more than one in every force.

online bravado sounds bit posh but i know im a general idiot and to put the record straight for any law officers watchin these pages i didnt do anything like a wheel spin away from a police car that would be foolish

shreads

I'd like to know, just for the record why a wheelspin is careless driving?

You are deliberately losing control of the vehicle.

Australia is currently prosecuting Lewis Hamilton for a similar offence.

Don't believe we have an offence of delibretly loosing control.

They could argue carless or dangerous driving, however, they would struggle to get a prosecution. Section 59 yeah but if it was short duration an no other road users close by unlikely.

From the age of 19 i've owned (not a complete list by any means just missing the boring ones off)

Mk2 Octavia vRS TFSi

Mazda 6

Golf GTi Edition 30

Passat Sport PD170

Focus ST-2

Volvo S60 D5 185

Audi A4 Quattro 2.0T

all of them bar the Audi have been either brand new or nearly new and looking 5+ years younger than I am, so you can imagine how many times i've been stopped randomly even when my driving has been every bit inside of the constraints of the law.

Funnily enough though, the car i got stopped in most was a 2 year old 54 plate Ford Focus 1.8 TDCi Estate, would seem the pigs found it a bit hard to swallow that it was actually my car.

Oh, turning ESP and power sliding out of a night club car park onto the empty dual carriageway is frowned upon by the constabulary as I found out to my own detriment. Needless to say the officer that stopped me was quite impressed

I remember coming up to a roadblock by Abbey Park in Leicester where nearly every car was getting pulled, lots of plod cars and officers and traffic cones to filter everyone. I got pulled and as soon as I rolled down my window the first thing I said to the officer was 'company car', he saw all the stickers etc all over it and waved me through. Funny thing was it probably wouldnt have passed if they had checked, it was the company joke-mobile and was always needing something doing and at the time Im sure it needed tyres and the tax hadnt been done either.

Edited 12 June, 201015 yr by Rhoobarb

they've got to have reason, if they stop you three times within a month for nothing you can get an injunction against them based on harrassment, a friend has this as he got stopped something like 9 times in 3 weeks, because he had a brand new £23000 vxr astra at 19, the police felt he was too young and constantly stopped him looking for faults, they even issued him a fine for an illegal exhaust which was manufacturer fit, which the manufacturer paid the fine on his behalf, admittedly the exhausts on the vxrs are quite loud standard though, but what faults did they expect to find on a brand new car with very few miles?

I love remarks like this.

firstly, Police officers need no reason to stop you, a constable in uniform can stop a vehicle for whatever reason they like (sec163 RTA) and secondly you getting stopped by the police 3 times in a month "for nothing" isn't harrassment (unless an individual police officer has a bit of a bee in their bonnet, but then a complaint is likely to have a better and cheaper resolution). Enforcing the rule of law (or similar wording) is an exception to the course of conduct needed to commit harrassment so as long a clear policing purpose can be seen then there is no harrassment. High powered vehicles driven by young drivers are sometimes likely to be uninsured, have conditions on the insurance or even be stolen without the owners knowledge (usually from their parents). theres a 19 year old where i work who has stolen his dads 09 plate merc 3 times this month already.

I'm fortunate to only have been stopped by police once, for speeding on the m5, it was pointed out the the provida system works on the rear facing cameras as well and following a marked traffic car at almost 90mph over a mile wasn't a good idea. Luckily he didn't want to see any ID and I got off with words of advice. If the devon and cornwall officer had known I was in the met he'd stuck me on for sure

firstly, Police officers need no reason to stop you, a constable in uniform can stop a vehicle for whatever reason they like (sec163 RTA) and secondly you getting stopped by the police 3 times in a month "for nothing" isn't harrassment (unless an individual police officer has a bit of a bee in their bonnet, but then a complaint is likely to have a better and cheaper resolution).

So is this the way its always been or is it part of the recent(ish) big-brother link-everything-to-terrorists anti terror-laws so they can keep pulling suspects over,etc?

Curiosity

So is this the way its always been or is it part of the recent(ish) big-brother link-everything-to-terrorists anti terror-laws so they can keep pulling suspects over,etc?

Curiosity

no, its the way its always been

I've only been pulled once, in my old polo.

Nightime, duel carriage way, a car comes right up my arse, so I accelerate a bit to get away as he sat there instead of overtaking. Next thing I know, said car has turned it's blue lights on.

Once stopped, he asked me why I had accelerated away, so I told him I felt that he had come to close to the rear of my car.

He looked at me for a minute, looked at the car for a minute, then took my details and gave me a producer before going on his way.

Wasn't overly impressed,

If he'd stopped my and said that my car looked like it was about to fall apart I would have understood - it was a bit of a wreck - but to stop me for accelerating? Grr...

I've been stopped in my Astra, I've been stopped in my Felicia.

I've not been stopped in my badass Alfa yet.

I let cars come close they can tailgate all they want as long as their car doesnt get stuck on my exhaust!!

no, its the way its always been

Sorry -I'd beg to differ .

WAAAAY back in the depths of time , trafic police were gentlemen ,who treated motorists with respect . They had a job to do , they did it with discretion -they educated drivers , sometimes with venom , sometimes they advised . They could be relied on for advice -and often would give it ( as in get that off ,next time it'll be a fine) .They had only road safety as their targets .And ,on the whole ,we had some of the safest roads ( policed by the best police) in the world . Then came along TARGETS .,AUTOMATED POLICING ( AS A MONEY SAVER ,CARE OF ACCOUNTANTS) ,and safety led observation fell -asdid public /police respect .

I lived ,for some years in the late 60's next to a police house .As fate had it ,I was pulled up by a young cop .I didn't have my licence -it was off for renewal ,but I nominated my local station as producing site . I notified the sergeant who could testify to it's existence and held things up till it arrived .Today - I'd get pulled in for a fine for not producing it ,not because I didn't have one ,but because I couldn't produce it in time .

Sorry -I'd beg to differ .

*yawn* doesn't change the content of sec 163 Road traffic act though does it, just highlights the fact that you need to be able to produce documents when requested.

introduction of speed cameras has nothing to do with it

speed cameras haha

my mate in the workshop got ray gunned by our on site police force

unfortunatly he couldnt remember what the speed limit for the site was (20mph) so slowed down till he thought was the correct speed when he reached the officer he was told to roll down the window and asked why he was doing 8mph haha

When stopped for speeding 70 in a 50 at 3am the copper asked me why i was speeding i answered just getting home officer as its 3am other wise i wouldnt of, then asked him what his excuse was, found it very amusing told me to slow it down a bit and went on his way, quality!

My girlfriend's dad is an ex copper, a week after i started going out with her i started to get pulled over think it was 8 or 9 times over 3 months. Never got pulled over before that strange coincidance???

And after about 3 months it just stopped, well apart from when i did a full drift round a corner in my sierra with a cop van sitting at the lights lol. When i asked what happened i said i slid on some ice, err i mean deisel (forgot it was summer lol). Think he was gonna book me till i said get traffic out and do a suface test, he just gave me a producer as it was the buisest street in the town centre lol

I love remarks like this.

firstly, Police officers need no reason to stop you, a constable in uniform can stop a vehicle for whatever reason they like (sec163 RTA) and secondly you getting stopped by the police 3 times in a month "for nothing" isn't harrassment (unless an individual police officer has a bit of a bee in their bonnet, but then a complaint is likely to have a better and cheaper resolution). Enforcing the rule of law (or similar wording) is an exception to the course of conduct needed to commit harrassment so as long a clear policing purpose can be seen then there is no harrassment. High powered vehicles driven by young drivers are sometimes likely to be uninsured, have conditions on the insurance or even be stolen without the owners knowledge (usually from their parents). theres a 19 year old where i work who has stolen his dads 09 plate merc 3 times this month already.

You beat me to it, entirely correct of course.

I've only ever been pulled over once and that was on New Year's Day this year which was fair enough, they asked if I'd been drinking (I hadn't) and then checked over the car and gave me a bit of a fright as it sounded like (and my passenger agrees) that they said there was no MOT on the car. They let me go and no problems with the MOT so wasn't sure what that was, I was surprised they didn't ID or breathalyse me but I didn't mind being pulled over as they were friendly about it and quite right to be checking. I do expect to be pulled more often as I'm usually the designated driver (I'm teetotal) pulling away from the pub with a car full of people but never have.

John

I got stopped the other night at 11pm. Police man jumped out at a closed petrol station. I was asked if I had been drinking, which I promptly told him I don't drink and asked me If I could provide a breath sample. He was a really nice chap and said they were doing this a lot due to the football.

Was a little worried tho, never done that before!

Never been stopped yet. Oh - and tailgaters are great if you have good brakes, good for a nice insurance claim and some compo for whiplash (on a more serious note it's better to try and leave a bigger gap between you and the car in front so you can give them time to stop behind you). Imagine a Police officer trying the tailgate to get people to speed tactic ploughing into the back of a car though and trying to explain it away to their superintendent - rule of the road is you should ensure you are able to stop - they can hardly try pin a dangerous driving charge on you when they were driving dangerously.

Edited 18 June, 201015 yr by anewman

Never been stopped yet. Oh - and tailgaters are great if you have good brakes, good for a nice insurance claim and some compo for whiplash (on a more serious note it's better to try and leave a bigger gap between you and the car in front so you can give them time to stop behind you). Imagine a Police officer trying the tailgate to get people to speed tactic ploughing into the back of a car though and trying to explain it away to their superintendent - rule of the road is you should ensure you are able to stop - they can hardly try pin a dangerous driving charge on you when they were driving dangerously.

They can fit you up any way they want, they are traffuc plod, i have full respect for proper coppers, but most of these traffic scumbags are worse than criminals, they seem to pull some younger folk and when they find them to be law abiding they just look for somthing, i know a guy who has just been done in court because his suspension was too low, the copper thought it was dangerous, the day after he was pulled he had the car mot'd and inspected it got the all clear, the big problem is he fought it on his own,no soliciter, the judge sided with the copper because he had 20 years expierience in traffic!!!! Utter scumbags more interested in meeting targets and acting like know it alls when most know absoloutly f all.

Never been stopped yet. Oh - and tailgaters are great if you have good brakes, good for a nice insurance claim and some compo for whiplash (on a more serious note it's better to try and leave a bigger gap between you and the car in front so you can give them time to stop behind you). Imagine a Police officer trying the tailgate to get people to speed tactic ploughing into the back of a car though and trying to explain it away to their superintendent - rule of the road is you should ensure you are able to stop - they can hardly try pin a dangerous driving charge on you when they were driving dangerously.

Happened to me years ago, unmarked carlton gsi kept on going up my ar*se and backing off, was doing 45 in a 40 and just as he was coming up to me i got to a 30 limit and slammed on, dunno how he missed me but he backed off for a bit before overtaking me and giving me a really dirty look lol. I'm sure he must of had a dash cam or he would of pulled me for sure lol