This one could get ugly, but as my new Vrs arrives in about 8 weeks, and I live in Brunstrom County!!! I feel the need to get some protection!

I have looked into it and have discarded the emission detectors (had a Bell 990 previously) and decided to lump for a combined GPS/Laser detector option. From what I can see the Road Angerl or Origin B2 appear to be vying for the title of licence saving "daddy". Does anyone have any reccomendations or even better experience of using these 2.

I am going to fit a hard wire to the car to keep it neat and a neat laser detection arrangement is a must as well. Can't be doing with big gadgets cluttering the place up. As far as I can see performance is about equal so it's down to neatness of installation and ease of use.

Any and all help much appreciated

ROLL ON 1st MAR!!

i have had an origin b2 unit in my octavia rs since may 04, cant recommend it highly enough. as you say both unit have similar performance but the origin is alot more discreet and quicker to detatch, it also have a lot more user functions such as an overspeed facility which you can set to beep when you go over a certain speed. i never leave home without it!!

Personally wouldn't bother with the laser detector part of it as by the time the detector goes off your speed has already been clocked. GPS part of it is well worth it though for fixed-site cameras.

Road Angel seems popular and is easy to install and keep up-to-date with all the new accident blackspots that spring up

Chris

Origin b2 every time!

I have a road angel 2 and Im not really that impressed. It works fine, but for example, it dosent tell me what the speed limit is on the raod where the alert is.

I have seen the Origin in friends cars, and to be honest, if you are having it hardwired then I would definatly choose it. It can be very very stealth.

Cheers.

I've got an Origin b2, I think it's great and easy to fit!

I've got an Origin b2, I think it's great and easy to fit!

I'm really impressed with my b2 also. Although i'm not very practical and it's still a mass of wires in the passenger footwell.

Got to be the B2 easy to instal and it works a treat

I had kinda drifted toward the B2. I think the laser detection is actually very useful. I hear what's being said about the time taken to recieve and process the emissions, however, I was nicked on the A55 ( at the Anglesey cct junction in fact - a very hot spot that!) I was doing 115mph on the clock and as soon as the alert went off, I stamped the brakes. When they stopped me they showed me the gun and it said that I had been had from a range of 1058 yds (not cricket is it?) at a speed of 91mph

The only thing I can think of is, either at that range, the energy was bouncing off the road around me as he tried to get a lock, or he had pinged a car near me and I was receiving scatter from that emission - either way, there was about a second or so from the Bell 990 going off and me standing on the brakes to get to about 70. He must have pinged me on the way down through 91. I know the speedo was reasonably accurate (+/- 3%) as I had calibrated it aginst a GPS previously. Thanks for all your input.

Cheers

Rossi

Forgive me if I am wrong here, but laser has NO scatter, and even at quiet a distance the beam is still very small unlike radar which has loads.

I used a Road Angel 1 before I bought my B2. Here's my thoughts

Road Angel doesn't tell you the speed limit of the road when approaching a camera... B2 does

Road Angel 1's bar graph for distance makes it hard to determine where the blimmin scamera is... B2 has bar graph, as well as time in seconds and distance in metres... - Is the Road Angel 2 different??

Road Angel 1 had a small display that was hard to read, especially for camera type. B2 was much easier to read - Road Angel 2 has a bigger display, but not seen it in action

B2 fits in your pocket if you don't want to leave it in your car... Road Angel you need to put in your missus handbag, if there's enough room with her purse (containing your credit cards...), make-up, umbrella (even in summer!!), and goodness knows what else...

Not had to update the Road Angel, but the B2's a 1-click affair on the PC

B2 talks to you... but she doesn't sound sexy enough. Road Angel 1 doesn't talk to you... Does the Road Angel 2?

Road Angel 1 was too quiet even on max volume... B2 will deafen you on max volume, so ideal for the noise of a car doing 110(k)mph on the motorway...

B2 has lots of features, like distance travelled, driving time, average speed, overspeed warning... but doesn't make you a cup of tea in the mornings or cook you breakfast. Road Angel 1 does none of these things, and still doesn't make you a cup of tea in the mornings!! :(

Hope some of that helps!! I know I'm refering to the Road Angel 1 when you'll probably get the Road Angel 2, but I've not seen the RA2 in action...

Forgive me if I am wrong here, but laser has NO scatter, and even at quiet a distance the beam is still very small unlike radar which has loads.

Sorry about the late reply

Laser does have scatter! When a beam hits a surface, no matter how smooth it is (unless it is a perfect surface = impossible) some of the energy will be reflected at an angle divergent with the normal reflected angle of the beam; hence scatter. So when a beam hits a car around you, it will reflect back to the emitter and also scatter in all directions dependent on the surface the beam strikes.

I think you are confusing scatter with beam divergence which is the measure of how much the beam widens, from the original beam width, relative to the distance the beam has travelled. All beams will diverge, it just depends how much engineering has gone into the set-up (and

If I can just throw in a curve ball to this discussion, I would thoroughly recommend going down the Pocket PC/GPS route rather than a pure camera detector.

I have had a Mitec Mio 168 for about a year. It has Tom Tom Navigator installed together with an add-on speed camera pogram. This cost me just under

I've got a b2, and the rattle of the thing drives me mad!

Have you looked at the micro roadpilot?

I've got a b2, and the rattle of the thing drives me mad!

What rattle is that? Is it internal, or to do with the fitting? I am thinking about getting one myself but don't know whether to go for the Solo or not.

For an unbiased appraisal of both systems (if any website can actually be unbiased ) have a look at

www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk (site is donw at the mo try later)

It also has some invaluable info on radar/laser jammers and how you stand regarding the law.

For an unbiased appraisal of both systems (if any website can actually be unbiased ) have a look at

www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk

I haven't seen anything on the Origin B2 Solo yet. This is supposed to be portable, like the Road Angel.

I was in Halfords today, and they had a Road Angel called "New Road Angel" - this wasn't just a sign, it was printed as the model name on the box too. Has anyone seen or used these? It was a oval shaped box, with bright blue display (more suited to a VW), large screen too - circa 350 squid methinks. Any thoughts? There's a link for this one here.

What about Geodosey? I have a friend with one of these, and I appreciate there is no laser detection or screen, but it seems to do the job.

How much have people paid for fitting with these things too?

Cheers in advance!

EDIT - Ah... I see having searched on Google that the Road Angel 2 is the same as 'New Road Angel'. Seems to get good reviews in most corners - might have to look into getting one of these.

Grr! :grumpy:

Had another look at the Road Angel 2... it's a shame they don't do one with green backlight. The blue is just too.... blue!

I bought my Road Angel 2 in May when they first came out. It does do it's job, although I do have a few issues with it. I wouldn't be without it now that I have it, but I probably wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

You have to do the updates quite reguarly but I've driven although a few roads recently where it hasn't beeped and flashed to warn me of the fixed camera.

Once you store the location yourself it's fine, but with temporary road works, once the camera's have been taken away or even moved, you delete or change/add the location but I've seen other cars with the RA2 in it, still flashing when the camera was moved a couple of months ago (example, A2 Pepper Hill/Swanscombe Cutting).

The RA2 shows (apparently) the correct speed that you are doing (differ's by about 2-3 miles to my speedo, but whenever I go past one of the speed things that flash up your speed, it always matches my speedo? So I stick to the speedo) but not the speed limit for the road.

Since buying my RA2 I looked into one for a mate and I liked the Road Pilot. It is more money that the RA2, but was still compact and had far more features.

Alternatively, we should all just stick to the speed limit!!! If only, the roads where I live are all far too long and wide to travel along at 30mph. Even the police cruise by at 40-45.

So, I'd probably choose to avoid the RA2 and look for a better one.