Just recieved this -

Thats pretty **** if they are going to be pricks over 1mph. 9 points and counting.

Plus I found this and it looked as though its a pretty official site

Edited 15 January, 201115 yr by ROS53Y

Are you sure its 1mph over? I dont know the road, but surely they would not 'do you' for 1mph?

If it really is a 70mph zone, id be having words. A small 'dip' in the road would cause you to maybe go from 70mph to 71mph...

It also says "class of vehicle" - so was the vehicle you were driving subject to a lower speed limit?

Isn't it a 50mph zone at that end of the by-pass

or maybe not....

Edited 15 January, 201115 yr by octaviaconvert

Could be worthwhile to appeal, if you were only 1mph over

My dad got 3 points for doing 20mph over on the M42 (variable speed limit set at 50mph) 5 years ago

Edited 15 January, 201115 yr by chrisw880

Got some bad news for you its likely to be 11 mph over the speed limit not 1 asI'm guessing its a dual carridge way

"The different speed limits for vans and cars

Cars may be driven at up to 60 miles per hour (mph) on single carriageways and up to 70 mph on dual carriageways. Vans may be driven at up to 50 mph on single carriageways and up to 60 mph on dual carriageways. A dual carriageway is a road that has a central reservation separating the carriageways."

Lifted from here

Ok, So it turns out ME in my van has a lower speed limit on a dual carriageway. From 70 to 60 mph ... Great, why is there not signs saying 60 for vans 70 for cars?

Ok, So it turns out ME in my van has a lower speed limit on a dual carriageway. From 70 to 60 mph ... Great, why is there not signs saying 60 for vans 70 for cars?

Presumably if you're driving the van, you should know the appropraite speed limit for the vehicle, or your employer should tell you - ignorance of the law is no defence

Imagine the number of signs there'd be on the roadside if there was one for each class of vehicle :no:

Ok, So it turns out ME in my van has a lower speed limit on a dual carriageway. From 70 to 60 mph ... Great, why is there not signs saying 60 for vans 70 for cars?

Sorry to sound harsh, but this is something you should know before heading out in a larger vehicle. 2 ton laden weight threshold = up to 70mph, even in car-derived vans. Seems you were in a Transit so may have been over 2 tons? Not sure if you can argue you weren't.

Because its in the highway code and drivers should know their own limits. Looks like a fair cop to me....

Is that the A289 near the medway tunnel ?

If it is there is a 50 limit on the road and it is a listed mobile camera site

A289 - Medway Tunnel limit 50

http://www.radardetectors.co.uk/camera_locations_kent_and_medway.htm

Saw this on another link

"Q. Which vans meet the criteria to be considered car derived vans for speed limit purposes?

A. Very few vans will meet the criteria to benefit from the same speed limits as a car. Those that do are likely to be similar to a Ford Fiesta van ,Vauxhall Corsa or Renault Clio van in having maximum payloads of around 500kgs so that when combined with the weight of the vehicle unladen (normally around 1.4 tonnes) the maximum laden weight of the whole vehicle will not exceed 2 tonnes.

What this means is that vans such as the Ford Transit and (and of course the larger panel vans) will not meet the definition of car derived vans set out set out in part IV section 2 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984. Therefore these vehicles will be subject to speed limits of 50mph on single carriageways and 60 mph on dual carriageways."

I was lucky the other day, I came out of a 30 zone and accelerated to a little under 70 as it was national speed limit (and the car behind me was sitting right on my backside the whole way through the 30 zone). Had my head in Dual Carriageway mode stupidly... Turned out the car right up my backside was a police car :o which bacame obvious when my rear view mirror went all flashy and blue. I pulled over at the next safe place and proceeded to eat s£!t as the, admittedly very polite, police officer asked me if I knew the speed limit and told me off for going too fast. I have to say he was very reasonable, I was all set to get my driving license out and the points/fine etc. However he just said, "Take more care with your driving in the future" and got back in his car. Absolutely my own fault but a lucky escape all the same.

Its the wainscott road its a 70 but a 60 for vans over 2 tonne, Ford transit 145/ 350 - three and a half tonne combined loaded weight.

Its the wainscott road its a 70 but a 60 for vans over 2 tonne, Ford transit 145/ 350 - three and a half tonne combined loaded weight.

Looks like a well-drafted exceptional hardship argument will be required then :S

I found this and it looked as though its a pretty official site

The clue is in the word "GUIDELINES"

Some police forces recognize these and others don't.

There is no obligation on any police force to adhere to these guidelines..

In law, there is no excuse at all, even for emergency services, to exceed posted speed limits and drivers doing so leave themselves open to prosecution.

The fact that drivers of emergency service vehicles are rarely prosecuted for speeding is irrelevant.

I rented a couple of vans in September and they had speed limit signs all over the dashboard. Are you a professional van driver?

After 60MPH your speedo can be 10% inaccurate !!

Hence the slight leniency with speed limits when vehicle is travelling just above that speed restriction.

Edited 16 January, 201115 yr by giandougl

I rented a couple of vans in September and they had speed limit signs all over the dashboard. Are you a professional van driver?

Na, I drive vans daily but I wouldnt call my self a pro.

Na, I drive vans daily but I wouldnt call my self a pro.

If you are earning money from driving then you are doing it as a profession so you are a professional driver. As a professional driver you should know the speed and weight limits of the vehicle you are driving.

Beware of going into Wales as some forces have a zero tolerance, meaning 1mph over the limit can result in a fine and points.

After you send back the NIP chances are you wont get any points anyway, you maybe offered the chance to go on a speed awareness course instead of the points/conviction.

After you send back the NIP chances are you wont get any points anyway, you maybe offered the chance to go on a speed awareness course instead of the points/conviction.

I doubt that will be an option with 9 points already on the licence :|

In fairness, unless you are self employed then your employer should have provided training for driving vans which would have included the speed limits. I know that I wouldn't have known that about the lower limit for a transit as I've never considered it a piece of info I'd need, not driving vans and all...

I have to be honest, I don't have a massive amount of sympathy on this one. You're a professional driver, so you should have known the rules about your vehicle, you were nicked for 71, so your speedo was probably showing 75-80mph and you already have 9 points do you've been caught before repeatedly and you've still not modified your behaviour.

I hope you get away with it, if only so you don't lose your licence, but please think very hard about why you keep getting caught. They can't run a camera unless they have a sign within 1 mile of the site and they are generally pretty obvious, so if you don't have the required observational skills and reactions required to spot cameras and slow down, FFS slow down all the time.

so if you don't have the required observational skills......

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/187149-been-driving-round-with-the-wrong-numberplate/page__p__2237667__fromsearch__1entry2237667

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