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Picked up my new vrs on Tuesday, my experience with the bluetooth and my G SII is a good one:

Paired fine but the phone book would not sync, a restart of the phone and it synced fine.

The phone now connects correctly every time I get in the car with no issues, never seems to disconnect.

The only problem I have is it seems that not all of my contacts have synced with the car there is a few missing from the phone book. Has anyone had this issue and managed to resolve it? I've tried deleting the phone connection (the user) and re-adding it but its still missing a few contacts.

Also how do I fine out whether its using rSAP mode?

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Picked up my new vrs on Tuesday, my experience with the bluetooth and my G SII is a good one:

Paired fine but the phone book would not sync, a restart of the phone and it synced fine.

The phone now connects correctly every time I get in the car with no issues, never seems to disconnect.

The only problem I have is it seems that not all of my contacts have synced with the car there is a few missing from the phone book. Has anyone had this issue and managed to resolve it? I've tried deleting the phone connection (the user) and re-adding it but its still missing a few contacts.

Also how do I fine out whether its using rSAP mode?

Check the contacts aren't synced up with anything (gmail, twitter, facebook etc) as they have to be physically on the phone for them to download from the phone.

You will know if it is RSAP as the signal will disappear on the phone display and you get the no signal symbol and also Remote Sim Mode Active in the notification area.

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Your phone will be in kind of a Airplane mode. Try turning the car on and then turn your bluetooth on the Phone to initiate a fresh resync.

Picked up my new vrs on Tuesday, my experience with the bluetooth and my G SII is a good one:

Paired fine but the phone book would not sync, a restart of the phone and it synced fine.

The phone now connects correctly every time I get in the car with no issues, never seems to disconnect.

The only problem I have is it seems that not all of my contacts have synced with the car there is a few missing from the phone book. Has anyone had this issue and managed to resolve it? I've tried deleting the phone connection (the user) and re-adding it but its still missing a few contacts.

Also how do I fine out whether its using rSAP mode?

Glad its working for you, mine also works a treat after a few set up glitches.

IIRC when updating contacts the car phone is reading the SIM card only, are the contacts on the phone and SIM the same.

One other point, I recently tried to update my contacts and it did not work. However further investigation showed I had to drop down the front menu where an option had appeared which in effect was asking could the phone access the SIM card, said yes and it updated.

Question. How do you delete contacts from the car phone memory? I looked through the Bolero set up and phone menus and Maxidot but can not see how you do it

Check the contacts aren't synced up with anything (gmail, twitter, facebook etc) as they have to be physically on the phone for them to download from the phone.

You will know if it is RSAP as the signal will disappear on the phone display and you get the no signal symbol and also Remote Sim Mode Active in the notification area.

All my contacts are Google synced contacts, none of them are "phone only", which makes it more confusing as there seems to be no pattern to the ones missing on the car, i.e. multiple phone numbers, ones with pictures, ones with address, ones with emails etc...

I also noticed that after trying a phone restart the car connected in non-premium mode, the premium word was missing on the mfd. I'm guessing this is the hands-free only mode I saw in one of the menus. It was only in this mode that all my contacts became available. Unless I can find a fix I may force it to connect in his mode all the time, as all that seems to be missing is the text messages, which I'm not sure works anyway (always says no messages available).

You are losing the large aerial on the roof connecting in hands free mode.

Messages are sim card messages and as such are stored on the 'sim' on the car so you wouldn't have any on there until you get one.

Well, progress !

I've been trying out the method that Moro stated at the top of the page and it seems to work well. Got into a habit of plugging the phone into the holder, starting the car and then clicking the BT button on the phone, now connects every time and syncs the address book every time, but best of all I still have full 3g network use on the phone so I can use Google NAV or the RAC Traffic apps.

Cheers for the info Moro.

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So you are connected to simple HFP via bluetooth since you have network access?

So you are connected to simple HFP via bluetooth since you have network access?

Yes that's right. The test was being able to use apps that constantly download from the internet like Google NAV. I know that the "Premium Bluetooth" is supposed to be better, but not for me, and also when I get a text now, it stays on my phone not in the car.

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Yes, it does the same with Iphone, but rSAP and Internet on SGS2, still can't crack it. Still waiting for a member who has got his car with recent rSAP module as some forums are saying that the latest model of 2-3 months and newer should allow Internet access.

apparently you can get internet with gsm3 in rsap mode.

i haven't tried it myself yet. will try n give it a go this weekend.

here is a snippet from the user manual on GGMIII......

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I think the trouble with RSAP is that while it is a much better way of doing things it is still very much a Nokia way of doing things. All the VW kits were either made by Nokia or by Novero which is a Nokia spin-off. If I put myself in the position of HTC who release new phones all the time I am not sure how much effort I would want to dedicate to ensuring that all the different user functions are supported when the phone is in RSAP mode, must be a real pain for them.

I have got my premium bluetooth kit sitting at home waiting for me to rip the interior apart and fit it. Sort of looking forward to it although I have no experience of doing that sort of thing. My phone is an HTC desire S which doesn't support RSAP (except by rooting the phone) so I will just go along the HFP route for now.

I've got Columbus in a late 2010 Superb and had no problem connecting an iPhone 3GS but now cannot get a Sumsung Galaxy S2 to connect reliably as "premium" Bluetooth. I know the phone is OK as it connects seamlessly to my Mini Countryman. It seems to work with the Skoda infrequently, but mainly just connects to the Samsung phone with "No Network" and no address book - useless!

Any ideas anyone?

Hi all,

Just thought I'd add my 2 cents...

I struggled to sync my Samsung Galaxy SII to my Skoda Superb's Columbus unit (just arrived end Oct 2011 - so probably has the Bluetooth update from last Summer). I just went through the on screen prompts (on my phone) and did the standard settings. It would connect but no phone signal and no phonebook - useless.

After a bit of reading around I found folk suggesting disabling rSAP. I remembered something asked about SIM access during the BlueTooth pairing process so I unpaired the devices and repeated the process taking a bit more care over the connection options...

When the phone and car are pairing you'll be asked if you want to allow the SKODA_BT device have remote SIM access - choose NO at this point, this prevents rSAP access and everything works fine for me.

I can now connect time and time again without any hiccup and have a good phone signal and access to the phone address book - perfect. Media works as well although I haven't tried SMS as I don't use it too much so don't care.

I also tried my work phone (Blackberry Curve) and paired up the devices successfully, then went to Bluetooth options on the BlackBerry and found a checkbox to enable/disable remote SIM access. I disabled this, reconnected and again everything worked perfectly.

I can now switch from one phone to the other on the Maxidot display and everything just works.

Hope this helps others that are struggling.

When the phone and car are pairing you'll be asked if you want to allow the SKODA_BT device have remote SIM access - choose NO at this point, this prevents rSAP access and everything works fine for me.

Hope this helps others that are struggling.

This works well! Thanks for the info... now I just need to find out how to make that setting stick and stop asking if I want to connect via rSAP.

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This works well! Thanks for the info... now I just need to find out how to make that setting stick and stop asking if I want to connect via rSAP.

Yeah, I struggled to find a solution for this but have recently realised that I don't need to - once the phone asks for permission to connect via rSAP don't do anything - just leave it and it goes away without permission.

This effectively means you can simply get in the car with the phone, it automatically connects, asks for permission for about a minute and then connects without permission - job done!

All that happens silently and so by the time you've got in the car, started the ignition, put your seatbelt on and driven 100 yards your phone is connected correctly without you needing to interact at all...

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Well, just an update really... my Galaxy S2 decided it would upgrade itself to v2.3.5 OS... now, the car option of Sim Mode 1 & 2 work ! In mode 1 it will only seem to connect in rSAp mode... in mode 2 it will connect in rSAP or HFP... :thumbup:

The only reason I found this out was after the OS upgrade I had to re establish the BT connection in the car and it wouldn't connect to HFP anymore, so I just tried the mode 2 option and hey presto ! ;)

Picked up my new vrs on Tuesday, my experience with the bluetooth and my G SII is a good one:

Paired fine but the phone book would not sync, a restart of the phone and it synced fine.

The phone now connects correctly every time I get in the car with no issues, never seems to disconnect.

The only problem I have is it seems that not all of my contacts have synced with the car there is a few missing from the phone book. Has anyone had this issue and managed to resolve it? I've tried deleting the phone connection (the user) and re-adding it but its still missing a few contacts.

Also how do I fine out whether its using rSAP mode?

I got my Galaxy S2 few days ago. It has v2.3.5

I had the same problem with some contacts from my phone book. After a closer look to these contacts I realised that they had some notes transferred on my galaxy’s phone contacts when I synchronised the phone with windows outlook. The notes were created when I was saving a contact using my old HTC.

I then removed all these notes from each contact and now all my contacts are downloaded to the car.

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Tried to pair a new Samsung Galaxy S2 to my 2011 Octavia with the Premium Bluetoothand and Columbus unit, managed to pair the phone ok and download address book no problem at all. However I cannot get the SMS function to work, whereas this works fine on my current Nokia N8.

I received a text whilst the phone was paired and it came through on the phone only.

Is it possible to have the SMS function with the Galaxy S2 work with the Columbus so I can read texts etc? or am I doing something wrong?

Tried to pair a new Samsung Galaxy S2 to my 2011 Octavia with the Premium Bluetoothand and Columbus unit, managed to pair the phone ok and download address book no problem at all. However I cannot get the SMS function to work, whereas this works fine on my current Nokia N8.

I received a text whilst the phone was paired and it came through on the phone only.

Is it possible to have the SMS function with the Galaxy S2 work with the Columbus so I can read texts etc? or am I doing something wrong?

I have a Galaxy S2 and Columbus, works fine and messages come up on Maxidot, I copy them back to the phone if I need to.

Is it possible your phone is connecting via HFP rather than rSAP. IIRC your car has the later combined HFP and rSAP GSMIII bluetooth

I have a Galaxy S2 and Columbus, works fine and messages come up on Maxidot, I copy them back to the phone if I need to.

Is it possible your phone is connecting via HFP rather than rSAP. IIRC your car has the later combined HFP and rSAP GSMIII bluetooth

interesting, I have the same phone and bluetooth in a September 2011 yeti elegance. Is there anythign I need to change so that texts come up on maxidot, as it stands the phone connects, phonebook works but texts just show on the phone. The phone is on 2.3.5 too.

cheers

interesting, I have the same phone and bluetooth in a September 2011 yeti elegance. Is there anythign I need to change so that texts come up on maxidot, as it stands the phone connects, phonebook works but texts just show on the phone. The phone is on 2.3.5 too.

cheers

According to the Skoda website the Yeti only has GSMII bluetooth not the premium GSMIII which supports rSAP.

In other words there is no separate phone in your car, your mobile is doing all the work. Any messages will go straight to the phone

According to the Skoda website the Yeti only has GSMII bluetooth not the premium GSMIII which supports rSAP.

In other words there is no separate phone in your car, your mobile is doing all the work. Any messages will go straight to the phone

My Octavia is a May 2011 model with the Premium GSM kit and texts work absolutely fine with my Nokia and a previously tried Blackberry Bold, so I am still at a loss as to why they do not work with the Samsung, tried it again today and still failed.

According to the Skoda website the Yeti only has GSMII bluetooth not the premium GSMIII which supports rSAP.

In other words there is no separate phone in your car, your mobile is doing all the work. Any messages will go straight to the phone

aha! Thanks. I had foolishly assumed they would just have one bluetooth kit and fit that, I mean it would make more sense in terms of economy of scale and all that. But there we are. I don't get too many texts so I'm not going to lose sleep over it :no: :thumbup:

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I just updated my Galaxy S2 with android 4.0

Now my bluetooth connection does not work any more. Radio message is that the device (phone) is not compatible.

Anyone else got this problem, and have a fix?

I just updated my Galaxy S2 with android 4.0

Now my bluetooth connection does not work any more. Radio message is that the device (phone) is not compatible.

Anyone else got this problem, and have a fix?

What has Android 4.0 given you that the previous version did not have?

Can you go back and install the original version.

It sounds like that Android 4.0 does not support the Bluetooth RSAP protocol

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