As we always teach people.......

4x4 may get you up the hill......

But gravity takes you down it!!

It doesn't matter how many wheels are driven, that is a far greater force!!

Actually winter tyres have made me more cautious as I am all too aware that most people will take much longer than I do to stop. So as a result I tend to slow much more gradually and look behind as much as at what's in front.

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Actually winter tyres have made me more cautious as I am all too aware that most people will take much longer than I do to stop. So as a result I tend to slow much more gradually and look behind as much as at what's in front.

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Wasn't meaning to make such a sweeping generalisation, many people fitting winter tyres are more than likely responsible people ensuring they are as prepared as they can be for the winter.

I am very cautious on mine as it is a new car (nearly twice the power of the last car, also running it in), new brakes and new tryes as well as driving in an area I am not overly familiar with and already know that the locals think a junction is where someone else should stop and everyone should give way to them! Because of the latter I have done a bit of hard braking and am really impressed by the tyres, my old car on similar width tyres would have been locking up and the ABS kicking in. On the Hankooks I have got there was no issue.

I had a pint lunchtime and there was someone in the bar boasting that he had just fitted winter tyres to his M3 and that now he could go any where, and nothing could/would stop him!

I wonder how long he will last?

(He drives like a rupert now!!)

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I had a pint lunchtime and there was someone in the bar boasting that he had just fitted winter tyres to his M3 and that now he could go any where, and nothing could/would stop him!

I wonder how long he will last?

(He drives like a rupert now!!)

Powerful rear wheel drive car with an idiot driving! There is most certainly a ditch or wall out there which will come off better than him. Just hope that it is not another vehicle which stops him.

I expect a Cat D M3 to appear for sale on eBay near Llanidloes soon

I'm confident just not confident in anyone else. I give myself a bubble, ease of well in advance for junctions and roundabouts and drive pretty defensively on my commute. You have to as people have no respect anymore. I don't have winter tyres but was tempted. Didn't know what the cheapest way of doing it was on the vRS. I'd have to buy smaller steelies for a start. I had a bump in icy conditions a few years ago but just clipped a grass bank which cracked the bumper a bit. The roads were really icy this morning but the car was fine. Just left it in auto and it went OK. Traction control didn't even flash

Looking at the comments on 4x4 -takes me back to an old colleague in Rhodesia when we were talking about the wet season and vehicles .I commented that in a Land Rover you could go almost anywhere .His comment was more in line with my(now)thinking on driving in snow /ice -"It's more a matter of judging where you CAN'T go ,rather than where you can ".

But after 40+ winters and a good few years in wet African bush , it's experience that counts ,added to a touch of confidence -NOT TOO MUCH else you'll end up in the ditch .But be totally frightened and you'l not get far . Remember you want the higest gear you can drive in ,till you see a slope ,when you need to change down early .ALWAYS CHANGE SPEED/DIRECTION SLOWLY ,and learning to double declutch ,where you can match engine speed to wheel speed means a better transition through the gears ,ALLOWING THE GEARS TO SLOW YOU -GRADUALLY,ather than the more suden effect of braking .And find a car park early in the winter - have your first skid when you want it ,and in safe conditions . Practice skid correction and braking techniques till your happy .Then if all else fails and you end up in a skid - it should come as second nature .I was lucky on my first one -instinct ( and self preservation ) took over -otherwise I could have spent a very cold night either in a ditch by Loch na uamph ( between Glenfinnan and lochailort), or in a few feet of water ( if lucky) in the loch .

I'm another who drives a 44t LGV about 1500miles a week and that can be fun in the snow, last year my Oct'y dsg on summer tyres got me to where i wanted to go, with no problems, just take it easy with your controls and don't rush.

:yes: This was a lot of fun last winter...bit cold though!

Are you mad!?

Are you mad!?

Yes!!

At least clearing the windscreen was nice and easy!

HA HA, Dave,

Bet you got a few looks driving round in that

as someone mentioned before, go into a big empty car park and practice car control, see i would do this but the rozzers just think your being daft and stop you, i just say 'fine, well when i spin out, ill just hope for the best then yeah?'

I just have my snow socks (about £45.00) in the boot and wack them on when I have to in less than five minutes and take them off when I need to, also in less than five minutes. Two days ago I had to drive up our hill to a height of 1000 feet, in parts about about one in three, in snow/slush/ice with fresh freezing snow falling. Not nice, lost traction occasionally expecially after a cattle grid but I made it to within 50 metres of the house before I had to stop to do some appropriate gritting to finish the job.

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I just have my snow socks (about £45.00) in the boot and wack them on when I have to in less than five minutes and take them off when I need to, also in less than five minutes. Two days ago I had to drive up our hill to a height of 1000 feet, in parts about about one in three, in snow/slush/ice with fresh freezing snow falling. Not nice, lost traction occasionally expecially after a cattle grid but I made it to within 50 metres of the house before I had to stop to do some appropriate gritting to finish the job.

i would be interested in snow socks but i couldt think of anything worse then putting them on when its below freezing

None of the possible answers. I'm confident (and experienced) driving in snow but will only venture out if it's safe to do so. I go prepared and am prepared to go back or stop if necessary.

I have to drive, but with precautions like Winter Tyres, lots of super warm clothing in case I get stuck (I work outdoors a lot so always have these things), water, sweets, phone (shovel sometimes), torches etc I fell well equipped to take on the average British winter. I carry all these things with me anyway, so it isn't even too much hassle. Oh and a big bottle of washer fluid is a good thing too.

I would say I am confident to travel in snow, but am very cautious about it too.

I have to drive, but with precautions like Winter Tyres, lots of super warm clothing in case I get stuck (I work outdoors a lot so always have these things), water, sweets, phone (shovel sometimes), torches etc I fell well equipped to take on the average British winter. I carry all these things with me anyway, so it isn't even too much hassle. Oh and a big bottle of washer fluid is a good thing too.

I would say I am confident to travel in snow, but am very cautious about it too.

yeah i always make sure the car is full equipped for the winter, washer fluid, blanket, various chargers, torch, various tools, the only thing im missing a shovel and duck tape (you never know when it might come in handy) even got a high-vis..not because im a wa**ker but it come free with some oil

If I don't NEED to go out, I wont bother. Quite easy for me though as I work for myself at home. Its not really about my confidence either, its my confidence in the other tools on the road.

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I have to drive, but with precautions like Winter Tyres, lots of super warm clothing in case I get stuck (I work outdoors a lot so always have these things), water, sweets, phone (shovel sometimes), torches etc I fell well equipped to take on the average British winter. I carry all these things with me anyway, so it isn't even too much hassle. Oh and a big bottle of washer fluid is a good thing too.

I would say I am confident to travel in snow, but am very cautious about it too.

I would be careful about having a bottle of water in the car as it could freeze up, crack the bottle, then thaw out all over your car (speaking from experience here).

I love driving in the snow, doesn't worry me at all. Keep my speed down, treat the car controls very gently, be aware of what's happening around you and exercise caution and you can't really go too wrong. Having a low value, easy to fix rear wheel drive car adds to the experience.

yeah i always make sure the car is full equipped for the winter, washer fluid, blanket, various chargers, torch, various tools, the only thing im missing a shovel and duck tape (you never know when it might come in handy) even got a high-vis..not because im a wa**ker but it come free with some oil

Believe it or not. I have a roll of Gaffa (Duct tape) as well. Plus Hiking boots, waterproof leggings, 2 emergency first aid mini-bags...........

I need a life

I would be careful about having a bottle of water in the car as it could freeze up, crack the bottle, then thaw out all over your car (speaking from experience here).

I've never had one split in my car itself, although I have had a bottle of coke explode int he boot once.

(can't get multiquote to work :( )

I hit black ice before and became a passenger even at a low speed, knocked my confidence a lot as almost had an accident with an oncoming car. Was probably doing like 5mph when I hit it but the car just kept sliding forward and nothing I did helped. I will drive in it if I need to but I won't make a big habbit of it. Before it happened I wasn't really bothered by snow.