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Delivered from dealership like this (rear left and rear right simmilar), they have stated that they inspected it and tyre is not an MOT failure and acceptable.

P.S whatever the dealers thoughts on this, I have changed both rears for new tyres

thoughts??

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  • A Skoda dealership? The tyre has to have the minimum tread depth (1.6mm) over a certain percentage of the tyres overall width. To me these look illeagal and if they aren't then they certainly aren't

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    The picture is not that good but as a vehicle examiner for the police, if I stopped you and saw that tyre, it would be a ticket for you. The tyre has to have 1.6mm across the central 3/4 around the wh

It would be going straight back. Legal they may be but only until the rubber wears through which judging by that pic won't be long

A Skoda dealership?

The tyre has to have the minimum tread depth (1.6mm) over a certain percentage of the tyres overall width.

To me these look illeagal and if they aren't then they certainly aren't safe.

A dealer that would sell a car with these tyres on should be at best avoided at worst reported - especially if they are a franchised Skoda dealer.

More to the point this tread wear would suggest alignment issues to me and as such your new tyres will likely wear unevenly too.

The uneven tyre wear is an effect not the casue, the cause needs sorting first.

Search 'sawtoothing' on this forum. Rear wheel alignment on the vRS is common and the dealer should be aware of this.

I very much hope you negotiated the cost of the replacement tyres off the purchase price?

they have stated that they inspected it and tyre is not an MOT failure and acceptable.

Difficult to tell from the picture, but I'd be after a second opinion

P.S whatever the dealers thoughts on this, I have changed both rears for new tyres

Very sensible - did whoever changed you tyres comment on the old ones?

That's a fail. One of my cars failed with better tread than that

Just get it properly laser aligned. The rears are running too much camber, known issue. Got mine done just after I bought it and both were over -2 degrees camber.

Is this a new car or "previously loved"?

I would'nt sign for it until new tyres and full geo.

Bobbins! I'm pretty sure that's a fail. It needs bringing to the dealer principals attention and / or SUK and I would be expecting them to at least put better ones on if not new ones, tread pattern looks like Contis.

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previously owned car with 30'000 on the clock, had the car delivered and was hoofing it down at the time so didnt go under it. good spot on the tread pattern, were indeed contis.

Very sensible - did whoever changed you tyres comment on the old ones?

guy was an MOT inspector himself and 'deathtrap' was mentioned

I think it is not a dealership that I would trust or use. Jimmy Carr's tax affairs were legal, but that did not make it right. Even if the tyre is legal, it hardly makes things right!

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guy was an MOT inspector himself and 'deathtrap' was mentioned

See if he's prepared to put that in writing and take it back to them and ask for recompence for the replacements you've put on plus an allowance for having the geometry set up in order to stop it eating your new tyres. If they're at all reluctant about it inform them that you'll be taking it up with trading standards under SOGA.

Out of interest what new tyres did you have put on?

Just get it properly laser aligned. The rears are running too much camber, known issue. Got mine done just after i bought it and both were over -2 degrees camber.

Better get camber sorted out quick before it ruins your new tyre

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Out of interest what new tyres did you have put on?

Had AURORA fitted, local mechanic is a bit of a petrol head (mainly scoobies) and he likes, uses and recommends them. did like the tread pattern which is not to far off the contis.

The rear left is the most worn on the inside, drives ok and wants to go straight, does this mean the camber is off in one corner only ?

Knows his stuff, they're a sub brand of Hankook afaik and, previously being a Scooby driver myself Hankooks are well thought of in that arena, let us know how you get on with them as my front 2 will need changing before long, thank goodness, as I don't like Contis :D

You need to get a full alignment check done and the places where I've gone in the past include camber check in this but be sure to ask.

Limit is 1.6 mm and its the center 3/4 of the tire that's tested. If the outsides are slightly bald it will still pass.

The picture is not that good but as a vehicle examiner for the police, if I stopped you and saw that tyre, it would be a ticket for you. The tyre has to have 1.6mm across the central 3/4 around the whole circumference, the inner and outer 1/8th can be below this. That tyre may have 1.6mm across 3/4 but its not the central 3/4 and is therefore illegal.

Going by your screen name, do you not know someone like me who could look at this for you?

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Going by your screen name, do you not know someone like me who could look at this for you?

I know a few of the flying black rat variety up this way :-), as you say photo is not the best. legalities aside, would not drive a RRV ambo with tyres like this so I would not take my own car out like it

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As my screen name implies, I unfortunately get to meet lots of car drivers/passengers who have stopped their car quickly without the use of their brakes.

- I am not naive enough to think that boots will last forever and if the dealer had rang me to even say 'their getting a bit close' then I would have happily paid for a new set of boots to be fitted by them before delivery.

- I follow guidelines from my local ambulance trust in that any vehicle responding under emergency conditions gets their boots changed at 3mm tread.

- I have had a reply from the dealer (from his MOT mechanic) who states that 'it is normal for the sides to have a bit less tread than the centre' in this case however my belief is that they are taking the proverbial, the slick bit at the edge was unevenly bulging throughout the circumfrence, in my opinion not safe.

- the salesman (who I cant fault) has said he will speak to his boss next week and put my question 'would you drive with this tyre on your car' to him.

- my main concern is that are there others (who may not be as anal as checking) who have been reassured by the claimed million (ok not as many as that) point check by the dealership?

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The picture is not that good but as a vehicle examiner for the police, if I stopped you and saw that tyre, it would be a ticket for you. The tyre has to have 1.6mm across the central 3/4 around the whole circumference, the inner and outer 1/8th can be below this. That tyre may have 1.6mm across 3/4 but its not the central 3/4 and is therefore illegal.

Going by your screen name, do you not know someone like me who could look at this for you?

to me that tyre is fooked but as a MOT tester its a pass and advise, as posted The tyre has to have 1.6mm across the central 3/4 around the whole circumference of the tread, the inner and outer edges can be bald, the tread starts where there are tread wear indicators and on that tyre in the pic they don't start untill the the bit that sill has tread, however if the cords are exposed its then illegal

I would have gone back to the dealer and given them hell! That is NOT acceptable, and it astounds me of the nonchelant (sp?) attitude of some garages, tyres are so, so important, it amazes me how many people do not think this!

Mine has passed MOT with wear like that. Got an advisory and changed them soon after. Took 20k to do it and the rest of the tyre was close to the limit also.

As others have said, get a full geometry check done (not a 4 wheel laser alignment) on something like a Hunter rig. This will cost you between £80 and £120, but your rear camber is out and your new tyres will go the same way.

If this was a Skoda dealer that the car came from I would be asking for them to pay for the 2 new tyres and the geometry check. It is a well known issue, and if they say otherwise they are telling porkies.

If you don't get them to cough up complain to Skoda UK. Tyres in that state are indeed a death trap.

I always make sure I check the tyres before I buy a used car. If they look anything less than 6 months old I get them replaced as part of the deal. It's an expense I don't need a few months after splashing on a new car.

I probably lose a little reduction on the sticker price, but by the time the tyres need replacing I'll have spent that anyway! Much rather just get it done before I buy it.

Mine has passed MOT with wear like that. Got an advisory and changed them soon after. Took 20k to do it and the rest of the tyre was close to the limit also.

Exactly it's just an advisory.

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