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Hi chaps, had the old blackline for a month now and still giggle every time I see it sat there (I'm a 56 year old sad old git). Been out for a wiz today just for the hell of it - something I wouldn't have even considered doing with my previous cars and thought I'd just share how it went.

The idea was just to give it a bit of a clear out (ish) as I'm still running it in - I've still only got 500 miles on the clock and have done quite a few short journeys lately. First thing the engine seems to be losening up a bit now, which is noticable when pulling below 1500 rpm in the taller gears. Power delivery is effortless and it just doesn't feel or sound like an oiler (TFSI owners will no doubt say it's unispiring!).

I decided to have a trip out to try and avoid any DPF issues so did about 15 mins on the motorway in 5th between 1800 and 2500 as per the book and even though the 15 mile trip to the motorway was a bit pants from a congestion perspective it was still enjoyable just to be sat there in such a nice motor (IMO). Took a different route back from the motorway on A and B roads which was a bit more conjestion free and I enjoyed making good progress as they say. All in all even with the 5th gear motorway driving I still got an indicated 51.4 mpg

This has given me an idea. Next time I have to do short jouneys at the wife's request I will have to go and clear out the old DPF cinder box- I thought something along the lines of ' Hello darling I've got to go out and purge the DPF.... I may be gone for some time' do you think it'll work?

How's everyone else getting on with their CR vRS's - any good experiences to share and is the car living up to your expectations. How's it compare to what you had before etc.I'd be interested too to know how any of you are getting on with DSG as I've got a manual, especialy if you've only just switched and what your thoughts are. I've changed from a 1 year old SE plus 1.4.TSI- a nice car but the vRS is in a different league IMO- almost as if it's a different car altogether. Cheers and enjoy your driving

Ade

Just watch pulling from the revs you mention, around 1500, in higher gears. That will put quite a bit of strain on the clutch and DMF.

If you want to make progress, select a lower gear, allow revs to reach 1900 or above for the turbo to spool, and away you go :)

Your worrying to much about the DPF. Just taking it out to clear it is a pointless exercise. I agree it's an awesome car, I have one.

Just drive it as you want to drive it.

Spent 1300 miles driving it to work and back. Need to go out and have some fun in it at some point.

Got a quote for my towbar fitting so that's next on the list!

My CR vRS is just coming up to 3 years old and 70,000 miles, and never had a squeak out of the DFP, so put it out of your mind!

DPF even.

I did 36k in my last one before the exhaust pressure sensor went and I liked to drive my vRS with some "spirit". Fixed under warranty too, I should say without any gripe from SUK.

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Just watch pulling from the revs you mention, around 1500, in higher gears. That will put quite a bit of strain on the clutch and DMF.

If you want to make progress, select a lower gear, allow revs to reach 1900 or above for the turbo to spool, and away you go :)

Cheers wardy,

I'm having a grey moment here (it's the old version of blonde) - what's DMF and why would this put a strain on the clutch? I'm not questioning whether what you say is correct or not- I'm just trying to understand something I know nowt about!

I'm not giving it any beans below 1500, just using smooth acceleration and small throttle adjustments to keep up with traffic etc. When I first had it it had almost nothing below 1500 to speak of (compared to my previous petrol which was designed to pull from 1k as the old gear indicator wanted me in 6th by 40mph) but it seems to be freeing up now and pulls better at low revs without any straining involved. I'd like to think I have some mechanical empathy having ridden bikes for years and this takes me back to how I used to enjoy meself on 2 wheels.....

Your worrying to much about the DPF. Just taking it out to clear it is a pointless exercise. I agree it's an awesome car, I have one.

Just drive it as you want to drive it.

Ta for the advice - sorry was having an anal moment today- must have been down (partly) to all the paint fumes I've breathed in this week doing the decorating whils using some leave up- that or I was going stir crazy and needed to escape, though it was a good excuse for a trip out!

Ade

well i've just come from a 360bHP RS and i though the VRS would be a total drag, i bought it as the cost of running the RS was getting abit stiffling, but i did love it, but i must say my first 70-90 miles in the VRS where all country roads from brighton to dover and then a long cruise through europe back to work, and it is everything that the RS was missing, but then again it is a totally different car, its more refined and smoother but lacks the power and grunt of the RS, yet glides effortlessly over bumps and is easy to drive, it is a nice car in its own way and i don't regret buying it. the interior is a step up, and it moves more than i thought it did, and ifinally see mpg about 14mpg around town lol , but i do miss that 5 pot warble....

Another one here for don't worry about the DPF. The CR doesn't have any issues with it unlike the older PD units....only some earlier CR's had a dodgy Exhaust sensor which caused issues.

DMF is the dual mass flywheel. Put too much load on it and you could kill it. I would say that 1500rpm is ok for a diesel though going on what my DSG does when driving along...And the fact my Bora is now approaching 110k on the original clutch and DMF.

Its always good to give the engine a good stretch every now and then through the gears to the red line. keeps things clear and heats things up properly.

I have been able to compare the TFSI VRS to the CR VRS.

A bit of history.

I got divorced in 2011 and when I walked out of court with the finance sorted I walked into my Skoda dealer as I was driving a Ford Focus 1.8 TDCI (tractor) that had been my ex wife's (she kept the BMW WTF!!!).

As a present to myself I ordered a new Octy Vrs TFSI estate in grey. It was a fantastic car, great engine and handling and did 36 MPG average on Vpower. Unfortunately my mileage went from 15k to 25k due to a work move so I went back to the dealer 12 months and 20k miles on and did a great deal for another new car, this time a CR Octy Vrs estate in black. This one was sitting in the showroom and pre-registered but with a massive chunk of money off and sat nav, reversing sensors etc.

I picked it up mid May 2012 and it had hit 10k by mid October and had its first service.

The acceleration is not as immediate as the petrol and the handling is a bit more nose heavy but that is it for differences. Average MPG over that period has been 53. It went to northern Holland in September, 5 up with luggage and cruised at 130 KMH with ease.

Even the dog likes it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There have been no quality or reliability issues. My minimum daily commute is 90 miles, most of it on the M2, so I have no worries with the DPF.

Great car.

Not a vrs but a vw tiguan. I currently have a demonstrator on my drive. It's the 2.0 140cr, and whilst it is a bit more refined than the pd lump you can still tell its a diesel, I doubt I would pick it over a petrol.

I seam to be doing the exact same thing with my missis. Even when she gets home and the fans spin up i tell her not to turn the engine off and i take it out for a quick spin while shes getting the kids/shopping in the house. I use the exact same excuse about the DPF needing purging. Although she's a woman so i could say the flux capacitor needs cooling down and she wouldn't question it :angel: . Truth is i just love the growl of the engine when you give it some. Now in the past i have been of the opinion that diesels are for tractors and petrols are proper cars. We only really bought the car because of the fuel economy. However i found myself now leaving the petrol VRS at home and taking out the diesel partly because its newer & shiny and turns a few heads but mainly they have done a great job of making it sound and drive unlike a normal diesel. Its a fun car.

21 months of ownership and 17k on the odometer, not as much fun as my previous car but then it's nowhere near as costly to run. Superb car with only 3 things that let it down 1. the propensity with which the windows steam up in cold weather, 2. the inability to spec electric folding mirrors on the vRS and 3. some of the dealers

OMG a CR friendly thread....It's been a while glad your all happy with your CR's even those who made the jump from more powerful highly flammable engines. Mine is 20 months old now and has 10602 miles as of yesterday happy enough. I would suggest that especially for those coming from more powerful machines dropping down a good quality custom stage 1 remap might surprise you and for those who have it and are totally happy with it, perhaps leave it for a year or so then it would be like having a brand new car again.

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Reading this makes me wonder whether I should be concerned about my Blackline's MPG ?

Total average since I've had the car on the Maxidot states 40.8mpg and that's including a few long runs. Leeds to Blackpool, Leeds to Stockton etc, once or twice a month. It's the daily commute of about 8-10 miles that I'm really struggling with. Unless I absolutely tip toe around in it, I struggle to see 35mpg and if I dare put my foot down, I'll be averaging about 30ish over the course of the commute. Should I be worried? It's a DSG if that makes any difference.

Reading this makes me wonder whether I should be concerned about my Blackline's MPG ?

Total average since I've had the car on the Maxidot states 40.8mpg and that's including a few long runs. Leeds to Blackpool, Leeds to Stockton etc, once or twice a month. It's the daily commute of about 8-10 miles that I'm really struggling with. Unless I absolutely tip toe around in it, I struggle to see 35mpg and if I dare put my foot down, I'll be averaging about 30ish over the course of the commute. Should I be worried? It's a DSG if that makes any difference.

DSG here too with a daily commute of 8 miles one way, I usually see mid to high 40s, occasionally 50s. How many miles have you done? What sort of terrain are you driving over on your commute?

Terrain is nothing extreme. Downhill slightly from leaving my house, then uphill slightly, then generally downhill the majority of the way again. It's a dual carriage for about 50% of the way too. Traffic isn't terrible, I'm not stood still for any length of time and if I ever do get caught in anything that's not moving I tend to turn the engine off, but that's a rarity and not the norm.

There's absolutely no way I could ever achieve the 40's on my commute though, never mind mid 40's, occasional 50.

I'm wondering whether to try it on a night and see what the result is, when traffic is not an issue at all?

Not to worry you but yours sounds a better run than mine. I wouldn't turn the engine off though, you'll use way more starting it back up and it probably doesn't do the DPF much good.

What mileage have you done as they do loosen up as mileage increases.

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Seems rather low to me from the info you've given? I'm fortunate that I work from home so don't have to commute, but here's what I get from mine (still under 700 miles on the clock so no full beans yet though I'm staring to whiz her up through the gears now with ever increasing throttle). Locally I get around 44 mpg- normally short trips to/from golf club circa 5 miles each way so just coming up to full temp when I get there. approx 1 mile in 30mph then rest 60 limit. I went to Milton keynes today just under 80 mile each way. Mixture of all types of roads from Local, A456, A491 to M5/M42/M40 off at Banbury cross country through Buckingham on A422 to A5 and on to MK. drove at national speed limits or thereabouts with short periods of enthusiastic acceleration! Only time I was below limits was when being held up. Average for both ways was 52.8mpg

what car did you commute in before and what MPG did you get then mate?

Not to worry you but yours sounds a better run than mine. I wouldn't turn the engine off though, you'll use way more starting it back up and it probably doesn't do the DPF much good.

What mileage have you done as they do loosen up as mileage increases.

It's just reached 1400 miles. Don't get me wrong, I've loved every one of them but it's hardly been spanked. I'll leave it running in future. I just read somewhere that after a certain length of time it's more economical to turn the engine off rather than to leave it idling. Don't seem to remember it being a long time but I'll leave it alone for the time being now.

Seems rather low to me from the info you've given? I'm fortunate that I work from home so don't have to commute, but here's what I get from mine (still under 700 miles on the clock so no full beans yet though I'm staring to whiz her up through the gears now with ever increasing throttle). Locally I get around 44 mpg- normally short trips to/from golf club circa 5 miles each way so just coming up to full temp when I get there. approx 1 mile in 30mph then rest 60 limit. I went to Milton keynes today just under 80 mile each way. Mixture of all types of roads from Local, A456, A491 to M5/M42/M40 off at Banbury cross country through Buckingham on A422 to A5 and on to MK. drove at national speed limits or thereabouts with short periods of enthusiastic acceleration! Only time I was below limits was when being held up. Average for both ways was 52.8mpg

what car did you commute in before and what MPG did you get then mate?

I was in a Clio Sport 172 before. Not really sure of the MPG to be quite honest, poor though!

How much realistically could the maxidot be inaccurate, 10%?

Loving driving my Blackline. Little squeeze from the right foot makes me smile every time.

Been on a few A road blasts just for the drive!

Big squeeze from the right foot just amazes me, superb power.

Done 1700 miles and never given the DPF a thought. But I do some spirited driving when I can so doubt I would ever see any issues.

Engine notes are very satisfying for a 'standard' car.

Getting 45 mpg, hefty amount of miles commuting into Leeds so not ideal!

Only issue I'm having is not giving it so many beans on the greasy roads at the moment. Spinning the wheels in 2nd can by so satisfying! (God I'm sounding like a yob!!!) learning to control the power though.

How much realistically could the maxidot be inaccurate, 10%?

You really should only use the MPG on Maxidot as a guide. The only real way to accurately calculate your fuel economy is manually.

My car never reads more than 45MPG yet consistently averages 48MPG when worked out properly.

I tend to be having the same issues as Si with my Blackline. Only getting around 430ish miles to a tank and that's on mostly commutes from Hudds to Manchester at around 2-3am so no traffic. Not driving like a bell end either. Seem to have to stick at 50mph to get the maxi dot into the 50's.

I'm comparing from having a PD Fabia VRS before (I know it's a smaller car etc) but seemed to be getting around 450-500miles out of a tank which was a mix of spirited/sensible driving.

Does having the DSG make a difference? It seems to rev high in first before you feel any movement. Like a floating sensation.

820 miles or so now on my Blackline (manual estate), mostly shortish trip to work and back with traffic I'm getting about 44 or 45mpg. On the longer runs somewhere around 50mpg accordingly Maxidot. I am expecting to get much more than this on longer runs once its run in and in warmer weather.

I have now registered on the Fuelly website so it will be interesting to see what the mpg actually works out at once I've filled up a couple more times.

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