Spotted in the local paper, Giffin Mill Skoda Treforest, are offering at least a £1000.00 discount on Yeti's. First time I've seen discounts being offered.

Yup, it's the time of year to buy, or so it seems (I wonder how much superstition is holding people back?)

I got way over that as discount 2 weeks ago (different dealer), but it's nice to see them actually coming clean & advertising offers.

Discounts are really neither here nor there: if, like most people, you are p/xing for a new car, the price to change is what matters - and this may involve a not-so-good trade-in allied to an apparently generous discount, or a really good trade-in price but no discount.

Griffin Mill? Might be lucky to find a salesman who isn't more into Kia, Peugeot, Vauxhall, and all their other marques than he is into Skoda.

Then you might be lucky to get him to get back to you - and so on.

I found that they were such a sprawling multiple dealership perched up on their erie that it was tricky to find continuity, and detailed knowledge. That said, they did allow me an unaccompanied test drive for as long as I wanted the car.

And yes - the end of their quarter, and perhaps their financial year, approaches at the end of March so they're will be needing to do the business.

Hmmmmm - I wonder if they actually have the physical stock, or if this is a ploy to hook people into their system!

Discounts are really neither here nor there: if, like most people, you are p/xing for a new car, the price to change is what matters - and this may involve a not-so-good trade-in allied to an apparently generous discount, or a really good trade-in price but no discount.

You're right in that cost to change is the ultimate factor but, if you're not trying to off-load a 'difficult' trade-in, it's useful to be able to keep things separate.

I knew exactly what my car was worth &, before I started dealing, made it clear that I wanted to keep the cost of new car and trade-in price completely separate & made it a condition of sale that I could 'de-couple' the trade-in at any point (made up a tale of a family member wanting 'first dibs').

I agreed a price on the new car (half-way between the 2 best broker deals I could find on-line). I expected to be offered book trade for my car but I cheekily asked for what I knew was book private sale price & deal was agreed (with me retaining the option to take the extra cash instead of trade-in should I so decide).

You're right in that cost to change is the ultimate factor but, if you're not trying to off-load a 'difficult' trade-in, it's useful to be able to keep things separate.

I knew exactly what my car was worth &, before I started dealing, made it clear that I wanted to keep the cost of new car and trade-in price completely separate & made it a condition of sale that I could 'de-couple' the trade-in at any point (made up a tale of a family member wanting 'first dibs').

I agreed a price on the new car (half-way between the 2 best broker deals I could find on-line). I expected to be offered book trade for my car but I cheekily asked for what I knew was book private sale price & deal was agreed (with me retaining the option to take the extra cash instead of trade-in should I so decide).

Totally agree! Just fell into the same trap myself on my wife's ordered VW Up! Agreed a decent p/ex on our Aygo (top book) but (very) foolishly did not think to agree a no p/ex discount as I was not thinking of selling privately. Guess what?........son-in-law brought the Aygo (did not even knew he was in the market for a change). Co-incidentally, I went back to the dealer today to see what discount I could get as now no p/ex and all I could manage was a couple of dealer fitted extras (£150). Moral of that story is as Skoda Al Coda has stated - do a 2 way deal at the outset. One price to change if p/ex and the other with no p/ex. Unlike me as I like to do a deal, but I was happy with the £6200 offered on the Aygo (started off at £5000). Never Assume anything in life and trust no one!

Would also add that, although it's not a great life policy to go around expecting the worst, it does, at least, pay to be prepared.

With the long(ish) delivery times on new cars, there's always the remote chance that your (to be) trade-in gets stolen / catches fire / or is otherwise written off. For this, however unlikely, reason, you don't want your discount to be hidden away in an inflated part-ex. The dealer can do what the hell he likes in the way of creative accounting behind the scenes - just don't let him put it on your order.

".......you don't want your discount to be hidden away in an inflated part-ex."

So very true.

I got a good deal I think, trading in my 10 plate yeti 4x4 diesel elegance with 36000 on the clock against a new 13 plate yeti same spec + spare and metallic paint. £ 6200 to change and delivered in 3-4 weeks. Not bad for 3 years motoring. Got a good PX and discount off the new one + tank of fuel and a load of freebies

I got a good deal I think, trading in my 10 plate yeti 4x4 diesel elegance with 36000 on the clock against a new 13 plate yeti same spec + spare and metallic paint. £ 6200 to change and delivered in 3-4 weeks. Not bad for 3 years motoring. Got a good PX and discount off the new one + tank of fuel and a load of freebies

Very good deal when you consider that something in the region of £4k of that went to Her Majesty's Government!

I got a good deal I think, trading in my 10 plate yeti 4x4 diesel elegance with 36000 on the clock against a new 13 plate yeti same spec + spare and metallic paint. £ 6200 to change and delivered in 3-4 weeks. Not bad for 3 years motoring. Got a good PX and discount off the new one + tank of fuel and a load of freebies

Sorry - but no such thing as discount and a good p/ex - sorry!

New car/extras retails @ £23695 & Parkers used car price of p/ex @ £16195, so price to change on this basis would be £7500. You paid £6200 so in effect the dealer has either "inflated" your p/ex by £1300 or "discounted" your purchase by the same amount - not both I'm afraid. The dealer may massage the figures to make you think that he has done both (split deal £650 extra & £650 discount) to placate you, but in reality he hasn't. Point is, the dealer in reality, has actually given away just over 5% of retail on the deal, which is well within his margins (some are giving 10% off if no p/ex). Anyway, does it matter as you think you have a good deal and at the end of the day that is all that matters.

This is how the car trade works!

Sorry - but no such thing as discount and a good p/ex - sorry!

Y'know, Truthie, yer wrong!!

If our man who loves the car so much he names it twice THINKS he got a double-barrelled good deal, and is well satisfied with it, then surely you can allow him that inner glow of chuffedness?

We all know "how the car trade works", and we know that there's endless dancing performed in the name of negotiation, and ultimately both sides are required to AGREE the figures for the deal to happen. And if Y-Y was expecting £x, and actually was offered £X+1, then HIS expectation in HIS mind has been exceeded, and he's made up - smile on his faces, joy in his hearts, spring in his steps, celebrations all round.

At the other half of the dance of the holy grail, to his total surprise, he gets offered a tuppenny discount and AGAIN, his hearts burst with joy, because HE, Y-Y, feels well done by.

Don't burst his bubble and spoil his moment! I know yer moniker outlines yer ambitions in all things, but rather than being a wet blanket extinguishing HIS fire, let him seek HIS truth - and that is... ... ... that he got a double, win-win, deal deal.

(Oh, and SORRY, sorry for capitals - on an iTablet thing I've yet to locate the boldifier bits for formatting, and I'm not keen on them yellow blobby things. Forgive me?)

Edited 26 February, 201313 yr by Freshacre

Excellent post Freshacre!

I have always believed that in life value is obtained not just by cheeseparing. I'm about to go and order a new Yeti. I don't have to and have chosen to deal with Prospect-nearly the closest and people who I have found helpful.

When I meet them I see them as people providing a service for reward-something I've been doing all my adult life. I expect they have families and bills to pay as I have.

They will make a profit on the deal and so will anyone who sells goods.

I'm prepared to accept that and will proceed if their offer is within my general view of value.

I accept that someone else will pay less and others may pay more-but I really can't see that as something to get stressed about.

Two sorts of behaviour do stress me-the person who will always tell you in respect of any purchase "You didn't pay £x I have just paid £x-y" whose intent is to show off or belittle. The other the person who, when settling their part of a group dinner bill, feels the need to bicker about whether or not they had pudding.

The ultimate in driving down cost is currently exemplified by horse bolognese.

Value - thats the word - VALUE. I'll say it again, _{V A L U E} .

And what one person values his values at is no other bugger's business as it is buried deep within his psyche and influenced only by his, er, "values".

I recall a thread on here which was about the date of registration, and how waiting a few weeks would ensure a new plate and hence a supposed higher 'price' at trade in time years in the future.

One contributor was getting it in the neck for stating that he just wanted his Yeti asap and never mind the new registration. People (almost) ridiculed him for such a short-sighted approach - until it was pointed out that he was actually disabled and needed to get a comfortable mode of transport immediately, if he could. To him, the "value" of pain-free motoring completely outweighed any pecuniary advantages (which were, of course, mere speculation - or 'pride'.)

Yep - VALUE. There it is in red and white.

Edited 26 February, 201313 yr by Freshacre

Exactly. And - although one of the club who doesn't actually need a replacement Yeti, my idea of value for money at this time is to have done (in my opinion) a good deal; and not just sitting around watching my money do nothing in a building society account until I shuffle off this mortal coil (and, as another contributor memorably pointed out, there are no pockets in shrouds).

+1

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And what one person values his values at is no other bugger's business as it is buried deep within his psyche and influenced only by his, er, "values".

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If its no other bugger's business why does one post it on the internet? ;-)

If its no other bugger's business why does one post it on the internet? ;-)

Thanks Totally Square - I felt that I was alone on this one. All I was trying to outline was the only person who ever gets a "good" deal is the dealer - end of!

I did however end my previous comment with these words:

"Anyway, does it matter as you think you have a good deal and at the end of the day that is all that matters"

Good to have a bit of banter though - it's been missing lately!

If its no other bugger's business why does one post it on the internet? ;-)

Good point!

But then again, why talk, discuss, argue, communicate at all? All we ever do is to share opinions, and sometimes facts, - and if you think about it, most "communication" is carried out in the attempt to either move someone else's position or thinking on something, to a different position. Sometimes it is also someone musing on a topic "out loud" - and in response to your query - or on a internet forum.

My thoughts that you've questioned on a person's values being nobody else's business were merely that an individual's values are just that - their's alone. It is not for me, or you, to challenge what they have arrived at inside themselves, for they alone have travelled the path of their life that's led them to where they are.

That doesn't exclude interested discussion, gentle probing, to try and understand someone - but not to judge or be critical.

This is deep stuff!! And by "communicating" by whatever means, it is perfectly possible to move someone's position, ideas, values, preconceived assumptions etc etc to a different place.

Thanks for that question, and for stimulating my own brain cells!!

All I was trying to outline was the only person who ever gets a "good" deal is the dealer - end of!

"Anyway, does it matter as you think you have a good deal and at the end of the day that is all that matters"

Good to have a bit of banter though - it's been missing lately!

Now - here's a challenge for you!! You need to define what you mean by "good" as in your comment above. It is as tricky to define as "successful" - because it will mean different things to different people.

And thank you for highlighting in bold your final comment - because that shows that we are, indeed, at the same place vis a vis YetiYeti's thoughts, and I will confess that I'd overlooked it in feeling so sorry for poor YY in having his delight sat upon!!

And finally - the third quote from your post - regarding banter. Yep - that's correct! I wasnt picking on you at all, just enjoying some thought provoking stuff in a light and easy way. The one thing that this Yeti section has always enjoyed is a good level of banter - sometimes pointed, sometimes suggestive, and sometimes downright pornographic - but always in the best possible taste and humour.

Cheers both!

PS - I've found the boldifier!

Edited 26 February, 201313 yr by Freshacre

. . . . . All I was trying to outline was the only person who ever gets a "good" deal is the dealer - end of!

Because of this, I have never part exchanged a car. I always sell our old cars privately through Autotrader and maximise the discount on the new one.

I appreciate selling a car privately is considered a hassle that some would prefer not to have, but the resultant "price to change" tends to be better and in some cases, very much better. I even managed to hand over to a private buyer my old vRS at the dealer supplying my new one on the same day.

Now - here's a challenge for you!! You need to define what you mean by "good" as in your comment above. It is as tricky to define as "successful" - because it will mean different things to different people.

And thank you for highlighting in bold your final comment - because that shows that we are, indeed, at the same place vis a vis YetiYeti's thoughts, and I will confess that I'd overlooked it in feeling so sorry for poor YY in having his delight sat upon!!

And finally - the third quote from your post - regarding banter. Yep - that's correct! I wasnt picking on you at all, just enjoying some thought provoking stuff in a light and easy way. The one thing that this Yeti section has always enjoyed is a good level of banter - sometimes pointed, sometimes suggestive, and sometimes downright pornographic - but always in the best possible taste and humour.

Cheers both!

PS - I've found the boldifier!

Thanks you for that stimulating comment - you are a fine Philosopher indeed

L&K, 1.8tsi configurator price £26,290 discounted to 24,200

My 2010 Aqua blue 140 4x4 17300 miles £16250

They will also carry out my cherished number transfer FOC.

I'm content and looking forward to my new Yeti.

I've enjoyed the banter on this thread too!

L&K, 1.8tsi configurator price £26,290 discounted to 24,200

My 2010 Aqua blue 140 4x4 17300 miles £16250

They will also carry out my cherished number transfer FOC.

I'm content and looking forward to my new Yeti.

I've enjoyed the banter on this thread too!

Can't resist (but only banter - honest):

Your p/ex is listed in Glasses at £16250 (bottom book), but that is with an average mileage of 30k miles, so the dealer has done you no favours on the p/ex, as with that low mileage you should have got at least another £500. He has discounted the new car by 8% and given bottom book on trade in. But again, the price to change of £7950 is all that matters so everyone thinks they got a good deal.

Hard hat on ready for the flack!!

Better than the deal in 2010 when discount was seldom available! I enjoyed the experience and the service-what value can you attach to a free paper cup of coffee, 3 years free servicing and being treated as a human.