Morning all

Well its day 1 of the wait for the new car.....grrrrr need a fix of the brochure later lol

Does anyone currently run their CR deezers either in MkII or III form on 2SO ?

I've run my past 4 cars (some from brand new) on 2SO with nothing but good results.

Tried to find a thread on here about it but no joy.

Cheers all look forward to your thoughts

But why, my 4 stroke diesel runs great on just diesel..... cos that's what it's meant to do....

It keeps the HP injection system lubrucated and clean. Quietens down the diesel clatter and in some cases can improve mpg.

With modern low sulphur fuels the amount of lubricity is massively reduced so this stuff really helps to prolong the life of pumps and injectors etc.

Get over to the freelander and discovery forums for a proper read up. Keep you busy for a few hours !!!

I was adding 2-stroke to my Chrysler 300C and had the smoother and quieter engine. I was wondering about doing the same on my Octavia too.

 

You only add around 200-250ml to a tank full of fuel, so it acts like an additive.

Couldn't this invalidate the warranty, as it says not to add anything such as fuel additives to the fuel.

Couldn't this invalidate the warranty, as it says not to add anything such as fuel additives to the fuel.

Well you can bet your life that if there was sufficient damage to the engine to require a replacement under warranty then the condition of the old one would be investigated extremely closely - so finding traces of things the engine was never designed to run on would possibly cause you some issue.

Could it cause issues with the DPF ?

I wouldn't as if you get any engine issues and they learn you've used it, bang goes your warranty.

Will u just put diesel in it and drive it,what the hell next!

No issues with DPF as I use low ash.

I think with the older direct injection diesels it was fine to use, but with the newer Common Rail engines it supposedly causes alot of problems. I used it in my MG ZR TD and it made so much dfference. Never used it in the Fabia though lol.

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I wonder what people have done to cars I have bought secondhand?  2 stroke oil in a diesel, never heard such thing nor have I heard of a reason why either?

With the tolerances modern engines run to and the extra complications of common rail, diesel particulate filters, EGR valves, ever tougher emission controls, the fight for higher MPG and lower CO2, using new materials and construction techniques to reduce weight and cost etc. etc. gone are the days where sticking in 2-stroke oil or any other aftermarket fuel additive are going to do you any favours.

 

Use good quality fuel, change the oil (and filters) regularly and allow the car to warm up before exposing it to too much load and any modern diesel engine should see the right side of 200,000 miles without major issues.

Edited 15 September, 201312 yr by silver1011

With the tolerances modern engines run to and the extra complications of common rail, diesel particulate filters, EGR valves, ever tougher emission controls, the fight for higher MPG and lower CO2, using new materials and construction techniques to reduce weight and cost etc. etc. gone are the days where sticking in 2-stroke oil or any other aftermarket fuel additive are going to do you any favours.

 

Use good quality fuel, change the oil (and filters) regularly and allow the car to warm up before exposing it to too much load and any modern diesel engine should see the right side of 200,000 miles without major issues.

The above comments say it all. Anyone who would consider putting in any form of additives in fuel, especially when the manufacturer warns you not to is completely barking mad. Sorry to be so blunt.....

Have a good read on test undertaken by Mercedes. Some interesting reading.

The above comments say it all. Anyone who would consider putting in any form of additives in fuel, especially when the manufacturer warns you not to is completely barking mad. Sorry to be so blunt.....

But that line is a get out by Skoda to cover any and all additives regardless of their efficacy - much like how they prescribe only certain tyre sizes.

I'm surprised they don't recommend only the minimum grade of fuel is used when we all recognise that the branded fuels are likely to contain more (dare I say it) additives.

Personally I'm happy with fuel additives designed for the application and made by oil companies either mixed at the pump or added with fuel. e.g. Millers.

I agree with silver's comments as well.

Edited 15 September, 201312 yr by Jeeves

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/200260-two-stroke-oil/

 

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Don't understand at all the logic of putting two stroke oil in with fuel, or any other additives. It makes no sense whatsoever. The oil majors spend millions developing advanced fuels in conjunction with car manufacturers and I'm sure if anything was to be gained they would include these ingredients or the car manufacturers would recommend it. Why wouldn't they?

 

Stay with the best quality fuels (by which I mean Esso, Shell or BP) avoiding supermarket fuels and other budget brands which are cheaper for a reason (they don't have massive R&D budgets or put the high quality additives that the big three do) and you won't go wrong. Don't assume for one minute that because the fuels all come out of the same refineries that they are the same fuel. They are not.

Edited 16 September, 201312 yr by Timoctav

Oh let's not go down that road of branded & supermarket fuels, it's a load of tosh IMHO, 

 

I've tried using both premium & regular diesel/petrol from the big names such as Shell, Esso, Texaco etc and premium & regular diesel/petrol from Supermarkets such as Tesco, Sainsbury & Morrison's and I have failed to notice any significant or appreciable difference in mpg between them.

 

The only thing buying from the leading brands does is burn a bigger hole in my wallet. 

I disagree, for starters the majors add an anti frothing agent so you dont get the frothing as you fill up slowing it down.

Don't understand at all the logic of putting two stroke oil in with fuel, or any other additives. It makes no sense whatsoever. The oil majors spend millions developing advanced fuels in conjunction with car manufacturers and I'm sure if anything was to be gained they would include these ingredients or the car manufacturers would recommend it. Why wouldn't they?

 

Four reasons I can think of:

 

1. It's too expensive to add it against the price/profit level they want to set.

2. They don't think think it's worth investing the research budget to investigate

3. There are issues introducing it into the manufacturing/storage/delivery process

4. There's not enough profit in doing it.

 

Car manufacturers will never suggest anything like that, even if there were proven benefits. It would be too open to interpretation and could put them at risk if it caused a problem.

 

Just because the manufacturers don't do it or recommend it, it doesn't mean there is no benefit. Having said that, I would be very cautious about putting it in a car under warranty, although there a now quite a few owners of different makes and models of cars who say they have seen benefits from using it.

 

I disagree, for starters the majors add an anti frothing agent so you dont get the frothing as you fill up slowing it down.

 

The frothing comes later....at the credit card machine.....

Edited 16 September, 201312 yr by xman

I disagree, for starters the majors add an anti frothing agent so you dont get the frothing as you fill up slowing it down.

 

That's a load of old bunkem too, I spent nearly 10 minutes faffing around with a premium brand (BP) diesel a little while ago because it kept frothing up, yet when I filled up with Tesco diesel it was done in a little over 5, with little frothing.

I'm akinda with wanderer on thissun.

Diesels are designed to run on diesel.

Buy any diesel, but OBVIOUSLY  avoiding any suspiciously cheap, dodgy, very old or low turnover sources.

Buy from any supermarket of Fln station.

drive car.

Change filters at recommended times.and if a trifle anal retentive like me, carefully cut the old filter open and examine its bowels.

I have never found owt amiss, except for absolute traces of water and fine grit.

So.

drive car.

buy diesel

drive car.

buy diesel

drive car.

etc, etc.  almost ad infinitum

simples.

I'm akinda with wanderer on thissun.

Diesels are designed to run on diesel.

Buy any diesel, but OBVIOUSLY  avoiding any suspiciously cheap, dodgy, very old or low turnover sources.

Buy from any supermarket of Fln station.

drive car.

Change filters at recommended times.and if a trifle anal retentive like me, carefully cut the old filter open and examine its bowels.

I have never found owt amiss, except for absolute traces of water and fine grit.

So.

drive car.

buy diesel

drive car.

buy diesel

drive car.

etc, etc.  almost ad infinitum

simples.

Agree with all you say - apart from using supermarket fuel - we'll beg to differ on that.

Fill the car with fuel, service it on schedule and live happily ever after.