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Just watched the race build up, you're correct they made Vettel do *something*

 

One lap into the race and Perez has ploughed into the back of Kimi and Sutil. Whoops. 

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    What a mental race! On the edge of my seat the whole time fantastic. Hamilton from pit lane to 3rd, Alonso done a great job and I think my driver of the day has to be Ricciardo, just massively impre

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Excellent race, thoroughly enjoyed that.  The track looks great as well and is designed to allow overtaking; there should be more like this.

And Suzy Perry with specs - how HOT is she? 

Top race, Lewis smashed it along with some fantastic moves from others. Nice to see DR back on the podium with his grin, sad there were no cowboy hats this year

5 wins in a row and another wheel to wheel battle won, cant argue with that.

I've avoided this thread all day, as BBC highlights were so late!

 

Awesome racing by Lewis. Once again Nico cannot beat him wheel to wheel :)   I will be so angry if this double points thing ends up with Nico winning, as he genuinely really doesn't deserve it.

 

I'm not a fan of Nico after his 'antics' this year, but have to admit that he was fairly gracious in defeat to give him credit.

 

 

Daniel Ricciardo....  champion of the future! What an amazing racer this lad is!

Ricciardo has been brilliant, Vergne has shown good signs too. I'm also fearful of the double points round given Lewis' relationship with bad luck. Rosberg basically admitted he was outdriven today, and that's not for the first time this season. Brazil should be interesting, great track.

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Austin snorefest. - That track has 18 corners more than it needs to allow overtaking in the absense of a mistake by the leading driver.

Haven't watched the race as BBC highlights were on late, have it recorded though.

 

The WDC is going down to the last race and the silly double points - the sooner Bernie and CVC relinquish their control of F1 the better. His comments over the weekend were comical "I know what's wrong, but don't know how to fix it" - excellent ploy to divert attention from himself and onto the big teams whom he says need to relinquish some of the their funds so that a new system can be devised!

Austin snorefest. - That track has 18 corners more than it needs to allow overtaking in the absense of a mistake by the leading driver.

 

 

You cant have been watching the same race as I was !

The BBC managed to make it look rather dull in my opinion.

I watched it live on Sky and it was excellent.

Crofty ruins Sky coverage for me. Every time something happens he starts shouting.

Crofty ruins Sky coverage for me. Every time something happens he starts shouting.

 

And I'm not that keen on Herbert and Hill either. Brundle's fine though, just not as pleasing on the eye as Suzie  :love:

Nice to see the American's getting into it

Funny, in the former years you wouldnt have heard the crowd but just the engines.

Nowadays you only hear the crowd  :x

I must admit I was really disappointed with Nico... Lewis did show a master-class, did not put a wheel wrong!

Ricardo however stole the show and was the superstar in US of A. 

 

Not sure where did Lotus get their speed from but it was good watch midfield battles with processional top six. 

 

Only two races left and we still might have a massive last race decider!

I love the sound of the new engines , the spooling from the turbo sounds awesome , louder is not always better

Agreed. I really do like them and it's focus on the right technologies. I'm getting fed up of people saying "it's no V10 or V8". So what? I do wish that in a few years when the reliability settles down a bit they let them make more power, even if it's only from the electric side of it. Currently it's around 180bhp just from that. Imagine it was 300bhp

Can't take any credit for this, a user on www.reddit.com/r/formula1 did it.

 

Likely_championship_results_improved_tab

 

Shows the WDC outcome based on Hamilton and Rosberg results in both Brazil and Abu Dhabi. Make of it what you will but there is an awful lot of white spaces (HAM).

 

Only 1st, 2nd, 3rd and DNFs considered as that is most likely outcome for them.

Rich, you do not hear turbo spooling as it is always in the correct rev range. During braking it spins as fast as poss to recover as much energy as possible. During acceleration it is already at optimum rpms kept there by electric motor. All I was able to hear at Silverstone this year was some engine noise at deceleration large amount of electrical motors whining like banshees - sounded like molded golf karts lol. Just my experience of course :). To add insult to injury they ran all F1 cars from the whole history of the sport on 2 or 3 parade laps before the race and when V8 was passing by hair on my neck stood up... perhaps it is just weird me but this is how I was reacting.

Rich, you do not hear turbo spooling as it is always in the correct rev range. During braking it spins as fast as poss to recover as much energy as possible. During acceleration it is already at optimum rpms kept there by electric motor. All I was able to hear at Silverstone this year was some engine noise at deceleration large amount of electrical motors whining like banshees - sounded like molded golf karts lol. Just my experience of course :). To add insult to injury they ran all F1 cars from the whole history of the sport on 2 or 3 parade laps before the race and when V8 was passing by hair on my neck stood up... perhaps it is just weird me but this is how I was reacting.

Pretty sure the turbos aren't driven by electric motors mate , if they were they'd be super chargers :)

It's the rear brake electric motors you can hear screaming as they slow you can hear the turbos come back up after the corner, it's not engine rpm that drives a turbo but gas flow , when the throttle is closed there is no flow and the turbos slow

They are not driven as such, it is part of the the hybrid system. Between turbine and compressor sits MGU_H unit, this harvests turbo energy on slow down and keeps the turbo spinning at optimum revs completely eliminating turbo lag - a simple (not!) but how elegant and ingenious implementation of an electric motor :).

Have a look here.

 

http://www.mercedesamgf1.com/en/car/pu106a-hybrid/

 

Turbo doesn't "spool up" any more as an effect, always "spooled up" with a clever system regulating pressures on the charge side.

Rear brakes are no different than the ones on my vRS in principle, no electric motors there. What brakes the rear wheel is MGU-K coupled or in line if you will with prop shaft. Both MGUs are responsible for almost all of the soundtrack of today's F1 cars. 

 

For all the fans of electric motors whines I recommend Formula E :).

Jenson Button man up.

It is a Sport, you got a great living out of it. 

wipe your eyes and move on.  JMHO.

Could be worse you could be Lewis Hamilton & your G/F could be high maintenance.

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Jenson Button man up.

It is a Sport, you got a great living out of it. 

wipe your eyes and move on.  JMHO.

 

Can't argue with that!

 

It's highly likely that it'll be Alonso and KMag next year for McL but it's a tough call, in terms of simple analysis against each other in qualifying and race (i.e qualifying highest or finishing highest):

 

Qualifying:

KMag - 9

Button - 8

 

Race:

KMag: 4

Button: 13

 

Does this simplistically show that KMag has the edge in terms of raw speed but doesn't have the experience to win races?

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