Hi all,

 

wonder if i could get some feedback on you guys that have used a jack to lift the car. basically the 2 reinforced cill sections come from the factory with underseal on them. but ive noticed after raising the car this rubberised coating splits.

 

has anyone else found this?

what have you used to jack the car?  the supplied jack, trolley jack?  if a trolley jack, did you protect the car with something?  a blcok of wood with a groove cut in it for example.

Was the supplied jack. Seems a few have had an issue

What does the dealer say about it? Sounds like a paint fault and a worry to me.

I jacked mine up at the weekend at all four points and didn't notice anything untoward. Imused a trolley jack and an ice hockey puck.

( had the wheels off for cleaning and coating in cquartz sealant)

did you cut a slot in ur hockey puck?

I had a long bit of what looks like painted rubber drop off the nearside jacking point the other day when I pulled up in my car at home! Should I worry?

I think it's going to be common tbh

I think it's going to be common tbh

if you've got paint/underseal flaking off Id go and speak to the dealer. okay its a jacking plint and takes load, but the underseal shouldn't flake.  I'd want the rest of the underside and sills inspected.

The original scissor jack is designed to lift directy on the web. There is no cut on the jack that the web is located in to. All the load is carried out by the edge.... not a good design when we have the seal in mind.

 

I used the original jack because of the way the original point is made, so I didnt use the trolley jack this time. The underbody seal got split at the front, but flattend at the back. It doesn't look to good that the seal did peal off..... This have never been a issue on any car I have owned. 

Has anyone looked under the chassis to see if there are places to fit jacking pads/ points similar to the Audi TT/ Mk4 Golf?

I fitted them to my Golf and used a trolley jack on them. Maybe the Mk7 Golf has something similar.

ive seen these on the mk5 golf, not looked on octy

Surely the answer is a jack pad(ice hockey puck or piece of wood) with a deep grove. Deep enough to ensure the bottom edge of the web doesn't take the load, but rather the floor pan and will immediately to the side.

 

Those with paint damage, I'd speak to the dealer or get some underseal on there pretty swiftly.

the web is now designed to take the load

I'm sure it is.  It has led to paint damage though, and by the sound of it, some deformation. A point load like that seems poor design, but that is what the Octavia has like most modern cars. The best way to solve the problem would seem to be to do as most other manufacturers do, the load from the jack goes either side of the web. The vertical web provides all the necessary vertical stiffness to carry the load and prevent deformation while the contact point is large enough to avoid paint damage.

Let'sface it, Skoda won't recall and modify the car. They may modify the jack though. I'd also hope they would repair any damaged vehicles.

did you cut a slot in ur hockey puck?

Actually, no I didn't. It was fine though. The puck was marked up with black lines, but I didn't notice any significant amount of underseal coming adrift.

Surely the answer is a jack pad(ice hockey puck or piece of wood) with a deep grove. Deep enough to ensure the bottom edge of the web doesn't take the load, but rather the floor pan and will immediately to the side.

 

Those with paint damage, I'd speak to the dealer or get some underseal on there pretty swiftly.

 

In the front, there are plastic under the car, where a normal original jack with groove would lift (like the Suberb). Then we get no direct point load on a edge, but a larger flat surfce. So it is not just to put a pad under with a  groove. Alle the weight on the front will be in the "front" of the sill. I think that will makes dent to the sill.

 

The original jacking point has been my biggest dissapointment of the new octavia. How hard could it be to make a solid non problematic jackingpoint...... it is just ridiculous that a car need to be taken back to the dealer to  fix the underseal, just because of jacking the car with the original jack  :wonder:

Edited 9 May, 201412 yr by CrazyBadger

In my view you won't dent the sill so long as the loading is done right next to the web.  the groove in the pad ensures the jack doesn't slip and load stays where you want it.  That's how many car's jacks lift the car, and how some after market jacks are designed too.  However I agree, why they don't design a decent set of jacking points i don't know.  Skoda are not alone in this.  The mk 3 mondeo I just sold was jacked on the sill too, with nothing else offering a decent, accessible jacking point on the 'chassis' .

So I've just been out to look at the state of mine after testing whether a space saver fit yesterday and the same thing has happened to mine. The jack has torn some of the rubber covering.

 

 

This is the Jack I used:

 

Do I need to be concerned about this? If so, what's the best course of action? Generously apply some underseal and forget about it? 

Edited 6 August, 201411 yr by Farsider

It's jus underseal, if you're bothered just slap some more on.

I'm pretty sure this will happen on any car jacked up a few times

I'm pretty sure this will happen on any car jacked up a few times

Yep happened on every car I've ever head.

Hi folks, just reviving an old topic here - I jacked my car up the other day on the supplied boot jack.  The underseal/paint combo came off (quite cleanly) to the primer (a grey yellow colour).  A bit grumpy about it tbh!

 

What I did was apply some stonechip paint with a brush (picture 1 shows an initial light coat) and then built it up a bit (pic 2) before painting in body colour with a Skoda touch up stick and then a couple of coats of clear coat.

 

I'm hoping this stays put and doesn't affect the body warranty, but not very happy with the OEM jack if I'm honest!

 

 

 

I use a trolley jack and groved hardwood disc. The paint & underseal still splits because the underseal is flexible and a thin strip of it has to hold approximately 500kg of car. The underseal compresses and the paint flakes off. Eventually the underseal will peel from the seal ridge, but any exposed steel will undoubtedly be galvanised so will not rust. It's nothing to worry about.