but what about the Octavia vs Crisp packet?

I know other people have experienced it before, but today was my turn.

Returning from Skoda Dealer with intermittant A/C faults (software update / to be kept an eye on), I was driving along a seemingly empty road at around 40mph, when an suicidal empty crisp packet jumped out from nowhere, and tried to get itself run over.

Luckily, my Front Assist was on hand to quickly respond to this suicidal foil bag, and promptly slammed my brakes on, before I had even noticed the danger ahead.

Thankfully there was no cars behind me, or else this crisp packet could have caused some serious damage. Today however, no one was injured, and the crisp bag carried along on its merry way, ready to dive out in front of some other unsuspecting driver, who might not be so lucky

You could at least let us know what road this was on so we can keep an eye out for the poor thing.

 

We need a database of known crisp packet habitats. 

Step forward 6 years and you're in your driverless car, enjoying your lunch and a cup of tea. You'd be facing car and clothes cleaning bills too! ;)

Only today in the news various insurance,safety and government bodies are wanting to make these things things standard fit. To save lives on the road. Probably find that deaths inside cars will rise

and thats why i will never spec a car with brake assist. As the op has said, lucky there was nothing behind as far to many people drive to close to the car in front. Two things a car should never do in normal driving, 1- Brake 2-steer.

Only today in the news various insurance,safety and government bodies are wanting to make these things things standard fit. To save lives on the road. Probably find that deaths inside cars will rise

 

Yet massively outweighed by those that survive outside.

and thats why i will never spec a car with brake assist. As the op has said, lucky there was nothing behind as far to many people drive to close to the car in front. Two things a car should never do in normal driving, 1- Brake 2-steer.

 

you've obviously never watched the "Maximum Homerdrive" episode of The Simpsons with Red Barclay in it then..................if you had, you'd change your mind quick sharpish..............

but what about the Octavia vs Crisp packet?

I know other people have experienced it before, but today was my turn.

Returning from Skoda Dealer with intermittant A/C faults (software update / to be kept an eye on), I was driving along a seemingly empty road at around 40mph, when an suicidal empty crisp packet jumped out from nowhere, and tried to get itself run over.

Luckily, my Front Assist was on hand to quickly respond to this suicidal foil bag, and promptly slammed my brakes on, before I had even noticed the danger ahead.

Thankfully there was no cars behind me, or else this crisp packet could have caused some serious damage. Today however, no one was injured, and the crisp bag carried along on its merry way, ready to dive out in front of some other unsuspecting driver, who might not be so lucky

You were lucky....!!

About 4 weeks I had 2 pigeons commit suicide In front of me around 6.45am in the morning, They just stood there waiting for me to come round the corner in the fog...!!

Unlucky for me they took out part of my grille.. Cost me £280 to fix... Now I watch out for them.....

Only today in the news various insurance,safety and government bodies are wanting to make these things things standard fit. To save lives on the road. Probably find that deaths inside cars will rise

 

I very much doubt it. You'll have far more lives saved by people not being hit, than lost through a false positive braking collision.

If you are going to be involved in any kind of accident, a straightforward rear shunt in a solid car is by far the safest, and if the car behind also has auto braking then that would also come to a halt, avoiding the collision again.

Sorry can I make sure I understand this fully, insurance companies support the call to save lives by wrecking more cars ?

Or a future filled with lots of living drivers without no claims discount to reduce the cost of their insurance.

Wonder why insurers support this then ?.

Sorry can I make sure I understand this fully, insurance companies support the call to save lives by wrecking more cars ?

Or a future filled with lots of living drivers without no claims discount to reduce the cost of their insurance.

Wonder why insurers support this then ?.

So it would be better to kill someone?

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Surely, the answer is to programme these systems to brake only below a certain speed, say 25mph, as most urban collisions occur at lower speeds, and I would have thought the drivers reactions at higher speeds would be sufficient to judge the situation otherwise they would have already slowed down if approaching a hazard at high speed, so further evasive action by front assist at high speed would most likely not alter the outcome of any potential collision.

Did you notice which brand of Crisps it was, if it blew off the pavement it might have been Walkers   

Surely, the answer is to programme these systems to brake only below a certain speed, say 25mph, as most urban collisions occur at lower speeds, and I would have thought the drivers reactions at higher speeds would be sufficient to judge the situation otherwise they would have already slowed down if approaching a hazard at high speed, so further evasive action by front assist at high speed would most likely not alter the outcome of any potential collision.

 

But inattentive drivers who are speeding are probably a key reason for the system.

It would of cost a "packet" to fix if a car had rear ended you.

I remember the days when drunks didn't fall about in the road. And school children waited for cars and bikes to pass by before wandering across the road. Problem could come when pedestrians assume all cars have this system. But I understand it can be switched off. OK good idea in principal, but as some are finding not do good in practice.

you've obviously never watched the "Maximum Homerdrive" episode of The Simpsons with Red Barclay in it then..................if you had, you'd change your mind quick sharpish..............

 

So that's where government get their policy from.

 

At the risk of stating the obvious, be it a crisp packet or a child, automatic or manual braking, the car behind should always leave enough space to stop whatever the eventuality.  If they don't, it's their lookout and ultimately, their insurance company that will be paying out.  

 

You can't argue that it's crap technology of the highest order that can't differentiate between an item the size of a crisp packet and something that could either get hurt or hurt you though.