Ah, well that's good to hear!

Yes it's good that the honda is finding some reliability.  Soon they'll turn the motor up and close the current 14 second gap to the front.

 

Sauber are looking fast - running light to attract more sponsors?

Edited 4 February, 201511 yr by camelspyyder

The times Alonso set yesterday were competitive with the times also set around the same time (early in the day when it was wet) from what saw, was that not the case?

Alonso was allegedly keeping pace with Rosberg? 

The Sauber set those times on a softer tire. However i do hope they keep their bright colour scheme. It's nice to see something a bit different.

Alonso was allegedly keeping pace with Rosberg? 

 

Yeah, thats what I read. Times mean very little at this stage but I noticed they're are a few 'Honda haters' waiting to jump on everything they have an issue with, although I guess this is the same with every sport.

 

They're not a million miles away from where most of the teams were last year with the new motors, they've already come out saying they have gone for new tech, which while may take some time to get working reliably but when they do should be quick in an attempt to make up some of the gap to the mercs. 

 

Sauber and Ferrari do seem to be going well, people seem to be commenting on the slimline rear of them, much tighter package. Cant wait till the first race! 

Alonso was allegedly keeping pace with Rosberg?

button has been fastest in the mac, 7 seconds off the pace. alonso's best about 14 seconds off.

i don't think either of them could keep up with rosberg (yet)

if anyone thinks mac are competitive based on what theyve shown so far, you're dreaming.

however, only 4 seconds off the next slowest after only 4 test days is real progress.

can't wait to see them at the next test.

Edited 5 February, 201511 yr by camelspyyder

button has been fastest in the mac, 7 seconds off the pace. alonso's best about 14 seconds off.

i don't think either of them could keep up with rosberg (yet)

if anyone thinks mac are competitive based on what theyve shown so far, you're dreaming.

however, only 4 seconds off the next slowest after only 4 test days is real progress.

can't wait to see them at the next test.

So Alonsos quickest lap on Monday wasn't set in the wet in the morning?

m.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/31118450

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31118450

 

Link didn't work.

 

Nicole and Lewis have split too. 

Again?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31118450

 

Link didn't work.

 

Nicole and Lewis have split too. 

 

 

Again?

On the plus side, perhaps he'll stop thinking that he's a gangsta now?

On the plus side, perhaps he'll stop thinking that he's a gangsta now?

 

 

Er, no, he won't!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31118450

 

Link didn't work.

 

Nicole and Lewis have split too. 

 

Ah cheers! 

 

On the plus side, perhaps he'll stop thinking that he's a gangsta now?

 

 

Er, no, he won't!

 

If I had his skills and money I'd be pretending I was a gangsta too.

On the plus side, perhaps he'll stop thinking that he's a gangsta now?

Perhaps that's why she dumped him. She doesn't seem the gangsta loving type.

Apparently it's cos he won't marry her, maybe it's the opposite and she does love the gangsta

Just been reading various reports from the test, some many theories and stories I don't think we will know what's what till Melbourne.

The only conclusions so far seem to be everyone's improved. So excited!

Just been reading various reports from the test, some many theories and stories I don't think we will know what's what till Melbourne.

The only conclusions so far seem to be everyone's improved. So excited!

So it'll be the same as last year!

matt1chelski, on 05 Feb 2015 - 07:29, said:matt1chelski, on 05 Feb 2015 - 07:29, said:matt1chelski, on 05 Feb 2015 - 07:29, said:

So Alonsos quickest lap on Monday wasn't set in the wet in the morning?

 

fthe lap you're bigging up 1:40

 

McL fastest lap all week a 1:27

 

best by ferrari around 1:20

 

slowest other team around 1:23

 

added to which on it's most reliable day it completed only half a GP distance

 

face it man, right now they're nowhere.

 

but by Melbourne, who knows?

Edited 5 February, 201511 yr by camelspyyder

I was looking at day 3 when they finally got it running for more than one or two laps, Alonso done a 1:35 something in the wet early on, within a second of Rosberg and the tests times that morning in the damp.

You seem to be comparing times from days they were running install laps and sounding like a bag of nails with reduced power

The times largely mean nothing but people thinking the McHonda is 15 seconds down? I don't think so.

Testing tells us, the public, nothing and trying to compare laps times and make calls as to whether a team is competitive is pointless.

As we know teams have their own individual strategies in testing. We will only know whether McLaren are on pace in approx 35 days.

I totally agree, they'll be nothing until the first qualifying to tell us who's where, fuel loads, engine modes, tyres, types of runs all effect times, but at the same time, I really doubt McLaren are massively off the pace but we'll find out in March.

I only look at the amount of running teams did as the best indicator for the chances in the racing season. Macca barely warmed their engines up while Merc done thousands of miles...

The more running the more things/modes etc tested and the more data to work with. The amount of varied data to work with is the key here.

I only look at the amount of running teams did as the best indicator for the chances in the racing season. Macca barely warmed their engines up while Merc done thousands of miles...

The more running the more things/modes etc tested and the more data to work with. The amount of varied data to work with is the key here.

Yeah, the milages Nico and Lewis clocked up suggest that they both spent 2 days doing race run simulations and Macca were doing installations or qualifying sims.

I think it is simply unrealistic to expect from any F1 team to be competitive with a brand new power plant which never been run in a car before. Testing rigs are extremely sophisticated these days but unfortunately nowhere near i nterms of the amount and quality of data gathered during track testing.

 

The below is from here:

http://www.formula1.com/news/features/2015/2/16808.html

 

As Ken wrote above Merc have done at least one if not two full race sims. And even if they were sandbagging to hide their true lap pace it does not matter. The amount of data they have now is vast and priceless.

 

This week’s unofficial aggregate test times from Jerez: 
1. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, 1m 20.841s, 200 laps
2. Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari, 1m 20.984s, 149 laps
3. Felipe Nasr, Sauber, 1m 21.545s, 197 laps
4. Nico Rosberg, Mercedes, 1m 21.982s, 308 laps
5. Marcus Ericsson, Sauber, 1m 22.019s, 185 laps
6. Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes, 1m 22.172s, 208 laps
7. Felipe Massa, Williams, 1m 22.276s, 144 laps
8. Valtteri Bottas, Williams, 1m 22.319s, 134 laps
9. Max Verstappen, Toro Rosso, 1m 22.553s, 170 laps
10. Pastor Maldonado, Lotus, 1m 22.713s, 137 laps
11. Carlos Sainz Jr, Toro Rosso, 1m 23.187s, 183 laps
12. Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull, 1m 23.338s, 84 laps
13. Romain Grosjean, Lotus, 1m 23.802s, 53 laps
14. Daniil Kvyat, Red Bull, 1m 23.975s, 82 laps
15. Jenson Button, McLaren, 1m 27.660s, 41 laps
16. Fernando Alonso, McLaren, 1m 35.553s, 38 laps

Total distance run - by team (power unit, where different): 
1. Mercedes, 516 laps - 2,284km
2. Sauber (Ferrari), 382 laps - 1,691km
3. Toro Rosso (Renault), 353 laps - 1,563km
4. Ferrari, 349 laps - 1,545km
5. Williams (Mercedes), 278 laps - 1,230km
6. Lotus (Mercedes), 190 laps - 841km
7. Red Bull (Renault), 166 laps - 735km
8. McLaren (Honda), 79 laps - 349km

Total distance run - by power unit: 
1. Mercedes, 984 laps - 4,357km (3 teams)
2. Ferrari, 731 laps - 3,236km (2 teams)
3. Renault, 519 laps - 2,298km (2 teams)
4. Honda, 79 laps - 349km (1 team)

Longest stints - by tyre compound: 
Soft compound - 19 laps (Pastor Maldonado, Day 3)
Medium compound - 29 laps (Nico Rosberg, Day 1)
Winter Hard compound - 34 laps (Nico Rosberg, Day 1)
Hard compound - 42 laps (Nico Rosberg, Day 1)
Intermediate compound - 25 laps (Nico Rosberg, Day 3)
Wet compound - 4 laps (Felipe Nasr, Day 2)

Jerez test comparison - Year on Year
2014 - 1,470 total laps (6,509 kilometres) completed in four days
2015 - 2,294 total laps (10,156 kilometres) completed in four days
That's a 56 percent increase

2014 fastest overall time - 1m 23.276s (Kevin Magnussen)
2015 fastest overall time - 1m20.841s (Kimi Raikkonen)
That's 2.9 percent faster