Hey All

 

Most of the time I remember to switch this stupid feature off when I start a journey...but sometimes it switches itself back on or I forget to do it...and then I get caught at a junction with a small gap to get out...and great no power, engine has to restart and puts me in a dangerous situation.

 

Is there any way of switching this off all together? I just want it gone. Bloody dangerous thing. 

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Dave

If you're pulling out in that small a gap, maybe you're the one putting yourself into a dangerous situation, not the car.  In any case, I really don't get this objection to stop-start, if you're in a queue of traffic then it reduces emissions and save the polar bears a little bit.  If all cars had it, especially those in bag cities, it really would make a hell of a difference.

 

Anyway, to answer your question - no, I don't believe it is possible to disable it completely, even using VCDS.  I think many have tried, but I don't think any have succeeded.

Try driving in London...you can't avoid pulling out into small gaps as that's all you have...

I get caught at a junction with a small gap to get out...and great no power, engine has to restart and puts me in a dangerous situation.

 

I don't see how it's a problem - just put the car in gear and it starts the engine for you.

The following post suggests a way to try it via VCDS.  

 

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/299424-octavia-iii-vcds-adaptations-tried-and-tested/?p=3717329

 

No idea if it works.  My car's a manual - so at any junction where I'll be requiring a speedy exit my foot will be on the clutch and the car in gear waiting for the gap, so the stop/start never activates.  I can see it being more of a pain with a DSG.

I don't see how it's a problem - just put the car in gear and it starts the engine for you.

 

The majority of the time it isn't a problem.

 

But when waiting for a small gap at a busy junction, trust me it's a problem. But if it hasn't happened to you then you wouldn't understand.

 

BTW, my car has DSG. It's in gear ready to go...just the delay in the engine isn't. 

 I can see it being more of a pain with a DSG.

 

Absolutely!

 

I'll have a look at that link - thank you.

The following post suggests a way to try it via VCDS.  

 

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/299424-octavia-iii-vcds-adaptations-tried-and-tested/?p=3717329

 

 

 

 

Thanks man - copied it here for future search reference:

 

 

 Permanently Disable Start-Stop

 

Available with VCP (Vag Can Pro) as an OCF (One Click Function)

 

Tested by antera on 2014.5MY cars and works with VCDS as below

 

·         Go to Module 19 (Can Gateway)

·         Adaption

·         Go to  Kanaal: Start_stop_voltage_limit

·         change to  12.1V ( standaard is 7.6V)

 

The Start-Stop will show as disabled because the energy requirement from the car is too high, which is not an error but a valid reason for SS to be disabled.

The majority of the time it isn't a problem.

But when waiting for a small gap at a busy junction, trust me it's a problem. But if it hasn't happened to you then you wouldn't understand.

BTW, my car has DSG. It's in gear ready to go...just the delay in the engine isn't.

For DSG:

Apply light pressure to brake pedal: no start/stop. I use this very often when making a short stop before turning or similar. When I stop for traffic signal I apply more pressure and enable start/stop

You can even apply more pressure and then lift foot a bit to start engine without the car moving

For DSG:

Apply light pressure to brake pedal: no start/stop. I use this very often when making a short stop before turning or similar. When I stop for traffic signal I apply more pressure and enable start/stop

You can even apply more pressure and then lift foot a bit to start engine without the car moving

 

Thanks dude - I understand all this and use it regularly.

 

Just sometimes it catches you out in a busy environment where you have to stop hard and move off quick.

 

I just want to switch it permanently off. I really don't like it. 

You can also change the outside temp when stop start is disabled from minus 50 to Plus 50.

I find it very easy to control with the brake pressure but if I don't want it to cut out at all then I make sure I switch it off with the button.

You can also change the outside temp when stop start is disabled from minus 50 to Plus 50.

 

Thanks dude! I'm just trying to find someone with VCDS nearby and I'll get that done.

 

Thank you for your response. Really appreciated.

I have to say I hated it on my Tig with DSG. There seemed to be about a two second delay as the starter motor engaged and the engine fired up. The dealer refused to do it... One eason was it would change the emissions and possibly put it in the next RFT band!  On my wife's Pug 2008 it restarts with no delay at all.

I hope I'm correct in saying the FL 2.0 DSG 4x4 Yeti doesn't have it!

I have to say I hated it on my Tig with DSG. There seemed to be about a two second delay as the starter motor engaged and the engine fired up.

 

For sure! This is what I mean. 

 

It's fine when you're at lights, but if you're in mental traffic where you have to suddenly stop n go, it's a proper pain. 

The majority of the time it isn't a problem.

 

But when waiting for a small gap at a busy junction, trust me it's a problem. But if it hasn't happened to you then you wouldn't understand.

 

BTW, my car has DSG. It's in gear ready to go...just the delay in the engine isn't. 

 

Yes - I don't have DSG but I understand can be a real issue.  In Car Magazine's long term test of a vRS TDI with DSG, this was one of the few things they really didn't like - apart from that overall they were very positive about the car.

 

I have the manual but would also like to disable it permanently.  To be fair, most of the time it's no trouble at all - as fast as I can press the clutch the engine has restarted to there's no delay at all.  However, on a few occasions when I've just come to a halt at traffic lights the lights have started changing to green just at the very moment the engine decided to stop.  In that situation there is an annoying delay (annoying to me and probably to the car behind) while it goes through the cycle of stopping and then restarting the engine.

 

And I don't like the rattly sound as the diesel engine stops and restarts. 

 

I wonder how much fuel it saves, really?   

It's the way forward until full battery or di-lithium crystals power cars.

Get used to it....all manufacturers are implementing stop/start tech and will undoubtedly be the norm on all models and brands of fossil fueled cars.

I just hope bluetooth phone connection can be made standard soon to try reduce the amount of driving whilst on the phone offenses.

Well I 've had enough of stop/start with my DSG. Its a right PITA.  Before I get out my VCDS cable......is the voltage "hack"  preferred to the temperature "hack"? And if so why?

Edited 2 February, 201511 yr by Minimoke

I have now got in the automatic habit of pressing the disable button, near the mode button, every time I start a journey.

I have now got in the automatic habit of pressing the disable button, near the mode button, every time I start a journey.

So do I normally - until I forget.

+1

I also hate Start/Stop with DSG.

I find it a little bit dangerous.

I used the voltage trick with VCDS.

S/S never activated again

+1

I also hate Start/Stop with DSG.

I find it a little bit dangerous.

I used the voltage trick with VCDS.

S/S never activated again

I agree. In my opinion coupled With DSG its more than a little bit dangerous. I just want it gone.

You've not experienced any problems then using the voltage fix?

Wonder many starters will break down with the start stop system?

Wonder many starters will break down with the start stop system?

Apparently they have toughened-up starter systems to use with stop-start.

I agree. In my opinion coupled With DSG its more than a little bit dangerous. I just want it gone.

You've not experienced any problems then using the voltage fix?

I agree, when with the Dsg it's a pain. Even the other half notices the delay in moving off. I now find myself slowing early to a junction etc to get a good look of the traffic to the right. Then I can crawl to the junction and then crawl off.