I guess this will come down to how much negotiating you did to begin with. There's over £3,400 off of the GTi via the brokers so if you are off of that figure, hopefully there's room enough to give you the cc.

 

As mentioned above, the Leon, although slightly bigger is a bargain imo. A nice, semi sporty FR spec hatch with Tech pack comes in around £17,300 with the 1.8TSi lump.

 

The brokers are quoting 3200 discount with finance, without finance its 2200, so wasn't really a massive difference.. I've dealt with this dealer past 4-5 years and they have been very good with goodwill regards out of warranty repairs and are only 20min away from me too. £650 saving and by all accounts it would be south of England for the car.

This system of removing desirable extras is not just vw. I was looking at a new Peugeot GTI and they are at it to apparently heated seats were standard in the earlier cars and they are in some of there lower speck 208s.They are now an expensive extra in the GTI.

Again these cars are supposed to be the top of the range,my guess is they think you will be dreamy eyed at the performance and miss the fact these extras have been removed.My advice read everything about the motor your thinking of buying,and demo it to.

Then point out these deficiencies to the sales staff if it ain't in I will buy a car that has em standard,end of.haggle haggle haggle.

Would be interesting to have a review of the Subject, can anyone oblige - review test drive or ownership. 

 

Thanks.

 

PS. Thought I saw a white one, 15 plated  last week ,  motoring by on the other side of the road ,so no time to have a look.

 

http://www.pistonheads.com/road-tests/road-tests/volkswagen-polo-gti-facelift-review/31279

 

Looks good in white- bit of track sideways.

I will be swapping my Citigo Greentech Elegance for a Polo GTI 2015 in the next year or so. Looks cracking car.

Saw a 15 plate one in the dealership which was being picked up by one of their technicians later that day. It's stunning in the white.

I really like the new polo GTI - I had the 1.8 GTI from new back in 2006, over the years of ownership both front springs broke, alloy wheels corroded, coil pack replacement and antifreeze light kept on coming on.

Wasn't impressed for the top of the range model.

Hard and crashy ride but car did keep its value well .

Nice cars if you like Polos.

 

Re post #28,  

why was the technician collecting it, was it already in need or repairs, or just them needing to do software updates before the public buy them.?

Are there currently some snagging issues early on that is delaying getting cars out to the public buyers?

Hopefully any will be resolved before peoples money changes hands and they collect their cars.

Hopefully nothing like the last Polo GTI Twinchargers where VW do not accept they had Build & Quality Control failures in quite a few cars over 4 years.

*Head in the sand*,  If we do not mention the past, it never happened.

 

In 1988 I owned a golf gti 1800 fabulous car,but it used to give me backache when driven a long distance,the reason for this was the drivers seat was offset to the right of the steering wheel and pedals,meaning you were driving with your body twisted no matter how much you tried to adjust your driving position. Yesterday I sat in a new Polo GTI and the position is exactly the same the center of the steering wheel and pedals in both DSG and manual are offset to the left of the driver,has anybody else noticed this, my last Fabia elegance certainly was not like this.

I will be swapping my Citigo Greentech Elegance for a Polo GTI 2015 in the next year or so. Looks cracking car.

Saw a 15 plate one in the dealership which was being picked up by one of their technicians later that day. It's stunning in the white.

 

 

Nice cars if you like Polos.

 

Re post #28,  

why was the technician collecting it, was it already in need or repairs, or just them needing to do software updates before the public buy them.?

Are there currently some snagging issues early on that is delaying getting cars out to the public buyers?

Hopefully any will be resolved before peoples money changes hands and they collect their cars.

Hopefully nothing like the last Polo GTI Twinchargers where VW do not accept they had Build & Quality Control failures in quite a few cars over 4 years.

*Head in the sand*,  If we do not mention the past, it never happened.

 

Perhaps the employee was buying for themselves - that must be a positive thing in my book - who knows or was it being delivered to a Customer? 

 

Remain optimistic until proved otherwise - me thinks.

Less complex = more reliable(?) but still fun! 

 

Suck it and see, if there is never to be a Fabia mk3 vRS  .

Should also give VAG a better sales / volume return than the S1, which remains very poor VFM imo. Hence the number that are still in dealerships.

Edited 18 March, 201511 yr by vrskeith

Yes they make almost faultless cars, decades of experience.

I do wish they could just keep improving them, and getting to the total reliability stage.

Publish accurate weights & measures etc.

It is nice to see a Spare Wheel fitted, and the Boot looks good to me,  the rear space obviously is limited.

A Polo Estate GTI would be great if there is to be no Hot Fabia Hatch or Estate.

 

There is an interesting post in the Octavia III section with a vRS that has done 700 miles and an engine knock they have not heard before.

 

Often the cars are built OK, maybe need some Quality Control issues addressed early on.

 but the Supplying Dealership, the PDI and the 'Technicians'  that are all like 'Tommy' are the actual problem.

(Deaf, Dumb & Blind, but sure play a mean pinball. ('They all do that sir.) 

The Octy 3 VRS TDI seems to be having a few issues too with sensors causing cars to breakdown.

 

If VAG aren't careful, they'll start to loose that reputation they have built up.

 

The Koreans and the like are slowly catching them up.

In 1988 I owned a golf gti 1800 fabulous car,but it used to give me backache when driven a long distance,the reason for this was the drivers seat was offset to the right of the steering wheel and pedals,meaning you were driving with your body twisted no matter how much you tried to adjust your driving position. Yesterday I sat in a new Polo GTI and the position is exactly the same the center of the steering wheel and pedals in both DSG and manual are offset to the left of the driver,has anybody else noticed this, my last Fabia elegance certainly was not like this.

 

Had a very similar issue with the Octy III, except it resulted in ever increasing levels of right hip and knee joint inflammation, hence having to get rid after only 6 months of ownership. Now in a Spaceback which has a very good driving position and oddly its on a current Polo derived floor pan :wonder:

 

Will have to try get a GTI test drive to compare

 

 

TP

If the Rapid is on the Polo Derived Floor plan then it is also on the Mk2 Fabia, Audi A1 & Seat Ibiza floor plan as well

because those are the same..

 

What bugs me with a Polo, Rapid & Ibiza is the Inner sill.  

the A1 & the Mk2 Fabia have / had plenty space and not such an intrusive sill IME.

@goneoffski - heads up - the GTI boot is severely restricted compared to other polo models, check it out.

I have, Yesterday while i was in Ayr Borrowing a Seat Leon Estate.  Looks OK.  

I only need the seats folded down or removed, if you want space a Polo is not the car to have..

 

The 1.8TSI 180 ps & DSG in the Seat was very very nice.

Great suspension as well compared to the likes of a Fabia Mk2 Estate or a Seat Ibiza ST.

 

 

PS.   

Spotted yesterday afternoon just outside Ayr heading to Maybole,

a Race Blue Twincharger with White Roof and White Gigaro.

& Near Prestwick a Green one with Black Gigaro.

Edited 18 March, 201511 yr by goneoffSKi

Nice cars if you like Polos.

Re post #28,

why was the technician collecting it, was it already in need or repairs, or just them needing to do software updates before the public buy them.?

Are there currently some snagging issues early on that is delaying getting cars out to the public buyers?

Hopefully any will be resolved before peoples money changes hands and they collect their cars.

Hopefully nothing like the last Polo GTI Twinchargers where VW do not accept they had Build & Quality Control failures in quite a few cars over 4 years.

*Head in the sand*, If we do not mention the past, it never happened.

He had bought it for himself. Garage explained he's had three Polo GTi's before and loved every one. He was coming in to receive the car half an hour after I was there. So it had just been polished and prepared for handover.

^{Spaceback is derived but not the same; floor panels are 6RA parts, Polo/Fabia use the older generation 6Q  parts for the floor.}

 

^{Parts wise I suppose the Spaceback is more current Polo than the Polo}  

 

 

^TP

The only more current Polo would be the All New 3rd Generation Fabia,

 which must be pretty much a Face LIft Polo since the same engines are installed.

 

You do get to the stage that the VWG feed us so much sharn that we really are Mushrooms.

 

When will there be an actual All New Small Medium Family car from the Volkswagen Group.?

The Seat Ibiza is due a Mid 2015 Re-Face Lifted Face Lift i believe.

 

?   Where are all these 'Face Lift 2015 A1's, ?

not seen any around, or i am maybe just missing spotting them.

So VW how many Polo GTI'S will be registered and or sold in March 2015.

 

How many are in the showrooms near you?

 

Who has ordered one, lets see the numbers./spec.

Manual or DSG?

So VW how many Polo GTI'S will be registered and or sold in March 2015.

 

How many are in the showrooms near you?

 

Who has ordered one, lets see the numbers./spec.

Manual or DSG?

 

I haven't ordered. But will order manual 3dr with the Digital Chasis Control & Sport Pack, Winter Pack and with the Touch Screen. Hopefully in white.

I understand the attraction of the DSG; our BMW 3.0 f34 Gran Turismo has the 8-Speed DSG. It's a cracking gearbox. But with the significant loss of torque in the DSG, and my enjoyment of driving a manual, plus the extra 2k of fitting the DSG, I'l be sticking with the manual.

The Octy 3 VRS TDI seems to be having a few issues too with sensors causing cars to breakdown.

 

If VAG aren't careful, they'll start to loose that reputation they have built up.

 

The Koreans and the like are slowly catching them up.

they are,

 

Hyundai are not far behind at all on engines, I would say the i20 is better build quality than a fabia and i10 far better than the citigo, (sound proofing, std equipment, doesn't sound tinny when you close the doors ec)

they are,

 

Hyundai are not far behind at all on engines, I would say the i20 is better build quality than a fabia and i10 far better than the citigo, (sound proofing, std equipment, doesn't sound tinny when you close the doors ec)

Since when have Skodas sounded tinny, the Citygo might have exposed painted door metal inside but the one I had as a loan car didn't clang when the door was shut and my Fabia doesn't clang either.

I know you went for an i20 rather than a Fabia but I do think you're looking at it through new car rose tinted glasses syndrome a little bit.

may be a bad choice of words, but the i10 sounds more solid when you close the doors could be the additional sound proofing as the car is a lot quieter

 

for me the fabia was not the right choice due to what I wanted, the rapid wasn't an option either as it had the same issue for me as the fabia, the entry level Octavia was about the only then I was at the upper limit of my price range when taking into account the 0% offer on pcp.

 

to be honest the i20 was 3rd on my list, and not a serious contender until I had the issue of being ignored by the sales staff (not the one I normally deal with as he was off sick ), so thought have time to kill I might as well go and look at the i20 to discount it and the rest is history

 

but seriously, go and have a look at the new hyundai's to seethe difference , personally I think they are at the point Skoda was in the late 90's where they were judged but the old rear engines rapids and estelle's, then it was the leap forward with the Felicia then when the Octavia mk 1appear people started to look at them differently

I got a New Hyundai i30 1.6 TD Automatic in 2009 & it was wonderful, far ahead of any Skoda at the Same Money.

I had it on Lease & it was returned early. 

The Wheels Corroded in 3 months & the Brake Discs and Calipers,  but that was all done, and i handed it back.

I would have another.

 

I bought new in 2006 a Kia Picanto 1.1 LX Automatic and owned it until a year ago,

it only did 27,000 miles but was fantastic, great build, Discs all round, Leather Steering Wheel, great handling, 

great in the snow.  It was rather expensive when bought, but worth every penny.

 

Kia & Hyundai have been Building and selling better value cars than many of the VWG ones for several years and providing decent Warranties and customer services.

What the 1990's & even 10 years ago has to do with here and now is neither here or there as far as i am concerned,

 

Euro 5 or Euro 6 Emission Engines and performances are what matter to most now when buying New or nearly Used.

 

The Chinese, Japanese, Asian, Korean  Car Manufacturers building cars in Europe / UK seem to be able to build better Quality & Value for Money 

than the VWG Manufactures that now have the cars built in Africa, SA and the likes.

 

Its good that people have choices.

But Volkswagen as a parent company seem to just keep holding Skoda back & making sure they only have Bland Cars and no longer competitively priced as new in the UK.

So VW how many Polo GTI'S will be registered and or sold in March 2015.

 

How many are in the showrooms near you?

 

Who has ordered one, lets see the numbers./spec.

Manual or DSG?

Probably a good idea to stick with the general thread theme, relating to the New Polo GTI.

 

That being said, I do see the potential of a Thread in "General Car Chat" section, relating to members overall experience - owning/living with ,performance ,reliability, quality, CS etc. of Global Manufacturers . Future impact on the established Manufacturers and their general complacency toward them .(Note! Some being part owned by establishment)

 

Hope that makes sense.

 

Cheers.

Its good that people have choices.

But Volkswagen as a parent company seem to just keep holding Skoda back & making sure they only have Bland Cars and no longer competitively priced as new in the UK.

Totally agree. The current Skoda range is a total yawn-fest.

Ahh but a Skoda Superb vRS will be a proper grandad and grandma racing machine if not just a bit slow. Hyundai I30 Turbo with 7 speed twin clutch might be an interesting hot hatch when it's available. Proper build and a good warranty just incase. Sorry So OT again.