OK so its probably the modern day equivalent of creosote, but still not pleasant stuff.

 

Apparently, the guy in the house backing onto my drive, decided to creosote his fence. Unfortunately he hasnt checked my drive, and apparently my Octy got a very good soaking of the stuff. Dont ask how he managed that.

 

The local garage suggested warm soapy water, and that, combined with some car grime remover, has cleared all the creosote off the paintwork, or so it seems anyway.

Just the lights and trim now according to my dad. Im not actually at home at the mo, so this has all come from my dad.

 

So I suppose a question for anybody in the know. Could this stuff do any lasting damage to the paintwork? I'm not sure right now how long it was on the car for before it was noticed, but i will check.

Another thing im worried about. There is a tiny spot on the car where a coat or two of paint has come off thanks to a pressure washer. Underneath the blue paint it is black (not sure what the black is). No doubt this tiny area will be more susceptible to any damage the creosote could do.

 

So yes, could this stuff do any damage, ie cause the paint to peel, fade or go a funny colour, and also how long could it take for any problems to show up? At present it doesnt seem to have caused any damage, or not that my dad has passed on yet anyway. My dad has spoken to the owner of the house, and told him we could be going back to him for damages, and that any right to claim will be staying open until we are sure there is no lasting damage.

 

After making sure its all off my dad is going to hold fire a few days before polishing the car.

If its Ronseal stuff its probably water based so wouldn't be too concerned just yet.  Firstly I would try claying. I'd have the car nice and wet (warm soapy water) and then clay am area as a test.  If the paint is generally good, this should lift any spots off the surface.

Hopefully it hasn't done any damage, most are water based now so it should come off with enough washes, maybe try some TFR on there as well?

 

What kind of wax protection did you have on the car - if it had a good coating then hopefully it hasn't penetrated that to the paint.

If its Ronseal stuff its probably water based so wouldn't be too concerned just yet.  Firstly I would try claying. I'd have the car nice and wet (warm soapy water) and then clay am area as a test.  If the paint is generally good, this should lift any spots off the surface.

My dad specifically mentioned creosote, so i imagine he has seen the stuff. With my dad actually saying 'creosote', makes me highly suspicious it wasnt the Ronseal stuff. Knowing my dad he wouldnt have said creosote if it was Ronseal. Thats my dad for you!!!

You say if the paintwork is generally good. What about my tiny area of peeled paint? Is claying still ok?

I suspect my dad will be best off getting it done professionally if claying is involved. Dont know if he even knows what it is.

Hopefully it hasn't done any damage, most are water based now so it should come off with enough washes, maybe try some TFR on there as well?

 

What kind of wax protection did you have on the car - if it had a good coating then hopefully it hasn't penetrated that to the paint.

Wax protection? None!!! So its definitely gone through to the paintwork.

TFR?? You've lost me

Traffic Film Remover - the stuff the Polish guys at your local £5 hand wash spray on the bottom half of the car before they jetwash the paint off for you

 

If it was actual creosote I would get a specialist to look at it as that stuff is basically tar.

Also post to the styling and car care section of the forum, they are very knowledgeable about cleaning products and paint protection.

Traffic Film Remover - the stuff the Polish guys at your local £5 hand wash spray on the bottom half of the car before they jetwash the paint off for you

 

If it was actual creosote I would get a specialist to look at it as that stuff is basically tar.

Ah right yeah, TFR sounds like what my dad has used already.7

 

It wouldnt have been real creosote i dont think, as that stuff is banned due to it being carceonogenic. You can get modern day equivalents though which are better than the Ronseal stuff. Ive used some of the modern day stuff on my back fences. Not sure if what was used is water based, but have asked the question.

Also post to the styling and car care section of the forum, they are very knowledgeable about cleaning products and paint protection.

Ta muchly

Almost certainly NOT cresote, much more likely to be the newfangled TV advertised spray on type, which is only colouring suspended in water, imho.

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erm, cough cough,

real cresote is not banned, and many previous users are reverting to cresote, since no other product is as good.

perhaps not readily available to hobby users, but still readily available.

And indeed I suspect that even the local B & Q /garden centre outlets will stock cresote treated timber products.

Edited 12 July, 201510 yr by dieseldogg

Ah right yeah, TFR sounds like what my dad has used already.7

 

It wouldnt have been real creosote i dont think, as that stuff is banned due to it being carceonogenic. You can get modern day equivalents though which are better than the Ronseal stuff. Ive used some of the modern day stuff on my back fences. Not sure if what was used is water based, but have asked the question.

You can still get creosote

 

http://www.creosotesales.co.uk/products-page/

Almost certainly NOT cresote, much more likely to be the newfangled TV advertised spray on type, which is only colouring suspended in water, imho.

m

erm, cough cough,

real cresote is not banned, and many previous users are reverting to cresote, since no other product is as good.

perhaps not readily available to hobby users, but still readily available.

And indeed I suspect that even the local B & Q /garden centre outlets will stock cresote treated timber products.

Interesting. Ive only ever seen the modern day equivalents, which they give ever so slightly different names to. For example I thing Creocote is one. Not quite Creosote, but better than the likes of Ronseal.

The ones ive seen certainly arent spray on type either.

 

Anyway, ive asked my dad to confirm what exactly it was.

You can still get creosote

 

http://www.creosotesales.co.uk/products-page/

Ta Andy,

The creosote equivalent mentioned on that site, Creoseal, is probably similar to what was used. Otherwise my dad wouldnt have used the term creosote.

So good chance it was oil based, as this website says.

OK, so it was definitely a creosote substitute he used, as i guessed. So no doubt oil based.

Ta/ Sap remover has been used over pretty much the whole car, and has removed all obvious traces. Next he reckons he will use an 'aggressive car cleaner'. Dont ask me what he has in mind!!!

 

Whilst its wet he will check for any rainbow effects showing, to work out if their is any oil film left on the surface.

 

Claying? Is that a paste/ dry compound?

My dad doesnt want to fo that as he claims if you get too carried away, you can end up taking the paint down to undercoat.

 

Suppose now its just waiting to see if there is any long lasting effects.

Edited 12 July, 201510 yr by JungleJames

You need really bright lights on the paint to see really - maybe get a local detailer to give it a look - you can always charge the guy for a correction detail then

I had the same when my neighbour decided to spray his fence on a windy day. My car and white conservatory looked like it had some tropical disease.

It's nearly always water based now. I washed and clayed and it come off no bother. A few stubborn spots I used some neat fairy liquid then gave it a good wax and polish

Just in case of future problems with your car make sure your dad keeps a good record of dates & times and what he has done. Don't know what terms your dad is on with the neighbour but a polite letter holding him responsible might be prudent & keep a copy. You don't want to fall out with folks but paintwork repairs can be costly.

Probably also a good idea when you return to invest in a day of detailing and a good wax and top sealant.

Creosote is diesel based. If it was only on the paint work for a bit, I wouldn't worry too much. A couple of soapy washes will shift it. Then polish and protect with wax.

No difference to spilling it down the side of the car if you've just filled up ( with diesel)

Prolonged it will damage the paint work.

Creosote is diesel based. If it was only on the paint work for a bit, I wouldn't worry too much. A couple of soapy washes will shift it. Then polish and protect with wax.

No difference to spilling it down the side of the car if you've just filled up ( with diesel)

Prolonged it will damage the paint work.

Depends what you call prolonged. 2 days it was on the car apparently.

Just in case of future problems with your car make sure your dad keeps a good record of dates & times and what he has done. Don't know what terms your dad is on with the neighbour but a polite letter holding him responsible might be prudent & keep a copy. You don't want to fall out with folks but paintwork repairs can be costly.

My dad has already spoken to him, and told him damages and costs could be coming his way. I assume there was no disagreement over that as i havent heard.

He also knows the possibility of damages is staying open until there is definitely no damage to the paint work.

It would be a good idea to look at the product he was using. In particular the instructions on on the label...for any future claims. It could mention spraying when windy etc

..or you could have left it on the car, apparently that stuff is good for 5 years protection!

Seriously though, sounds like your dad has got it under control. Couple of coats of wax should do the trick now that it's all stripped back to the lacquer.

Edited 12 July, 201510 yr by Matt Pez

..or you could have left it on the car, apparently that stuff is good for 5 years protection!

Seriously though, sounds like your dad has got it under control. Couple of coats of wax should do the trick now that it's all stripped back to the lacquer.

I'll remember to bring some round for your car then. Especially when you purchase the Rolls.

 

Wax is in hand. Its enroute to the Sheffield detailing company as we speak

TFR dear god no. Talk about stripping the wax that stuff is like a microwave to butter

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