On 23/02/2024 at 20:39, Colin170CR said:

600+bhp Superb Estate.

Ultimate Sleeper

Found an even better one. 720bhp 2.5litre 5 cylinder Superb. Have to admit this one is not as subtle but impressive none the less.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN7T2_ERG9Y

Yeah, but it’s a Frankinperb, Colin, so it don’t count…😂

Edited 15 April, 20242 yr by numskull

5 hours ago, numskull said:

Yeah, but it’s a Frankinperb, Colin, so it don’t count…😂

So maybe something like this 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWotswktQ_8

1 hour ago, Colin170CR said:

So maybe something like this 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWotswktQ_8

Much better. 👍🏻

 

Anyone know if they’re a member here? 

I managed to have a chat with the current owner last year via Facebook but then went silent. So I gather he wants to keep a low key. 

OK so I know everyone is talking modifications, remaps and the ultimate performance, but today for the first time I 'launched' my standard, stock Superb 280 and was pleasantly surprised. Absolutely no drama, no wheelspin and a recorded time of 4.96 for a 0-60 mph

Hello All,

 

Did someone have already a feedback for the Revo stage 1 soft for 280hp with continental turbo?

As far as I can see they recently released a software for our engines - https://www.onlyrevo.com/product-details/performance-pack/mqb-20tsi-ea888-evo-high-output-performance-pack

I am pretty sure when I checked last time in January there were no signs. There is a massive upgrade reported from revo (and other tuners also) even for only a stage 1 and no hardware needed.

 

5 minutes ago, Tonies said:

Hello All,

 

Did someone have already a feedback for the Revo stage 1 soft for 280hp with continental turbo?

As far as I can see they recently released a software for our engines - https://www.onlyrevo.com/product-details/performance-pack/mqb-20tsi-ea888-evo-high-output-performance-pack

I am pretty sure when I checked last time in January there were no signs. There is a massive upgrade reported from revo (and other tuners also) even for only a stage 1 and no hardware needed.

 

I have a Revo Stage 1 with the std Turbo. +80bhp. Installed a couple of years ago by a local Revo & VAG specialist. The acceleration in Sport mode is almost savage. Even D mode it is very quick for everyday driving.

I also have a Race Chip XLR Throttle pedal fitted which was swapped to my Superb from my wife's Karoq when we moved it on. This takes out the slight hesitation on the DSG & TBH in anything more than normal mode (on the XLR) & the response is almost undrivable. Normal setting on the XLR is fine & overall the car is plenty quick enough for me. 

As far as I read - there are significant differences with the old 2.0TSI with 280hp first, 272hp and the latests one is again 280hp like mine. It looks like the turbo is new from Continental with some modern technology called Raax. Also the input fuel from injector is with 350bar compared to the 'old' ones of 200bar. And some other peripheral stuff...

So I am curious more about if there is someone with the latests EA888 Gen 4 evo engines and tune from Revit or other reliable companies?

Approaching 4k km, I must say I am very happy, car is brilliant and a very relaxing place to be, when you can relax ... 🙂 

Is also economical when light on the throttle, but it comes difficult as going fast(er) seems natural to do ... oh well, those are problems! 🤭

Still getting the hang of it, for sure couple things I am having trouble adapting to, one is the logic of the DSG, in all modes is slow and goes as soon as possible to the high gears, in sport keeps them hanging which also makes it bothersome.

It certainly encourages to drive sedately ... which when you do is great and all sleeps!

 

Same applies - and more - to the skinny pedal, the feedback/control is horrible. Not only laggy, but also like ... dumb. Now I understand the posts talking about a pedal box, which I think will come soon as I really prefer a more responsive throttle, here it passes from "let's all sleep" to "wild ride" in no time ... and obviously the engine roars and roars, DSG drops couple gears, car lurches forward unsettling all the body, and so on ... I wonder how Skoda tested this and determined it was reasonable and satisfying ...

Will look into the available options, which I guess is Germans DTE or Racechip. Considering the future has a Stage I engine tune, maybe is preferable a bundle, or they are totally independent systems?

44 minutes ago, leolito said:

Approaching 4k km, I must say I am very happy, car is brilliant and a very relaxing place to be, when you can relax ... 🙂 

Is also economical when light on the throttle, but it comes difficult as going fast(er) seems natural to do ... oh well, those are problems! 🤭

Still getting the hang of it, for sure couple things I am having trouble adapting to, one is the logic of the DSG, in all modes is slow and goes as soon as possible to the high gears, in sport keeps them hanging which also makes it bothersome.

It certainly encourages to drive sedately ... which when you do is great and all sleeps!

 

Same applies - and more - to the skinny pedal, the feedback/control is horrible. Not only laggy, but also like ... dumb. Now I understand the posts talking about a pedal box, which I think will come soon as I really prefer a more responsive throttle, here it passes from "let's all sleep" to "wild ride" in no time ... and obviously the engine roars and roars, DSG drops couple gears, car lurches forward unsettling all the body, and so on ... I wonder how Skoda tested this and determined it was reasonable and satisfying ...

Will look into the available options, which I guess is Germans DTE or Racechip. Considering the future has a Stage I engine tune, maybe is preferable a bundle, or they are totally independent systems?

Do the Stage 1 remap first & then see if you need the pedal box. I also seem to remember that there is an "Audi Throttle" setting buried in the cars software somewhere but that is going to need VCDS or similar to access it. I have a Race Chip XLR fitted to mine set to Normal  mode because anything else is too aggressive.

2 hours ago, Colin170CR said:

I have a Race Chip XLR fitted to mine set to Normal  mode because anything else is too aggressive.

I think that’s because of the +80bhp you have under your right foot, mate! I’ve had the XLR set to R+ for a couple of years now (I only have +50bhp) and you do adjust to the performance improvement very quickly. On the other hand, Sport mode on the car with R+ is completely nuts and I’ve rarely used it. And of course the complete lack of throttle lag with the XLR, including in Normal mode, is brilliant. 

8 minutes ago, numskull said:

I think that’s because of the +80bhp you have under your right foot, mate! I’ve had the XLR set to R+ for a couple of years now (I only have +50bhp) and you do adjust to the performance improvement very quickly. On the other hand, Sport mode on the car with R+ is completely nuts and I’ve rarely used it. And of course the complete lack of throttle lag with the XLR, including in Normal mode, is brilliant. 

I drive mine in Sport mode about 30% of the time and you are right, with the XLR in R or R+ mode & Sport selected on the DSG, forward progress is fairly savage. I would call it "Hooligan mode"!! So my XLR stays in N mode.

I took the XLR off of my my wife's old Karoq 1.5 DSG when we traded it in for her current EV & fitted it to my Superb to see if it would sharpen up the D mode throttle response which, even with the stage 1 Revo remap, was still a bit hesitant off the line. It works quite well. I was thinking about getting the DSG re-mapped as well but I think that might be a step too far.

I dropped a friend off at the local train station in the Superb the other day & he was astonished at the effortless acceleration compared to his 2.2 Diesel Mondeo Vignale - which he has had chipped as well. Think he was getting around 245bhp & silly torque numbers. 

 

The Superb 280 Estate really is a car that I would find very hard to part with because there's not much else out their that comes anywhere close to it for performance, space, comfort or for similar money.  

Indeed ... I spent months pondering on the issue and there are really few variants that tick all the boxes the way a Superb does. And in all of them there is at least one drawback very difficult to compromise with!

 

I am waiting the "new" VCDS from Gendan (mine is obsolete for this car), and will try the 'audi' mod first, and then will take it from there.

Re-map is a no-no at the time, I got still warranty left and I also prefer not to have the car touched (got a history of ...problems). Will see.

 

Noticed a distinctive difference in price between DTE products and the Racechip ones, surprising for what I would think - ignorantly, for sure - are very similar products ....

2 minutes ago, leolito said:

I am waiting the "new" VCDS from Gendan (mine is obsolete for this car), and will try the 'audi' mod first

 

I tried this when I first got the car and it made no difference, hence getting the XLR was a revelation. 

May be silly but ... tag in the engine bay indicates VW 504 00 and 507 00, SAW 0W-30.

I find info that refers to 504 being gasoline spec, and 507 TDI spec, does this makes sense to other 280 users as well?

Anyone using other than 0W-30 for any reason (just asking, I am used to very old fashioned engines and oils so just gathering info).

8 minutes ago, leolito said:

May be silly but ... tag in the engine bay indicates VW 504 00 and 507 00, SAW 0W-30.

I find info that refers to 504 being gasoline spec, and 507 TDI spec, does this makes sense to other 280 users as well?

Anyone using other than 0W-30 for any reason (just asking, I am used to very old fashioned engines and oils so just gathering info).

I had the same question about 0w, and the answer I got from people was that they use 5w30 spec. I personally went for 5w30 Millers EE performance C3 

sticker under motor bonnet also says VW 504/507 SAE 0W-30

but at 15k Km service, dealer filled 5w30,

as i have 80% of urban with avg speed 30 kmh i doing additional intermediate oil replacements to keep motor hours within 250-300 range

for previous replace i used LIQUI MOLY TOP TEC 4210 0W-30

thinking about little bit cheaper TOP TEC 4200 5W-30 for next intermediate replace

 

Hey people,

I got mine 280 (2023) just recently and was surprised by few things.

 

- engine is quite loud on idling doing 1200 revs, is it normal? It changes with dsg modes. My Previous 1.4 TSI was silent on idling.

 

- DSG7 is not as smooth as I hoped, sometimes it changes gear pretty harshly, especially in S mode like when you let clutch too fast and car quickly decelerates. It happens not everytime.

 

1 hour ago, palad1n said:

Hey people,

I got mine 280 (2023) just recently and was surprised by few things.

 

- engine is quite loud on idling doing 1200 revs, is it normal? It changes with dsg modes. My Previous 1.4 TSI was silent on idling.

 

- DSG7 is not as smooth as I hoped, sometimes it changes gear pretty harshly, especially in S mode like when you let clutch too fast and car quickly decelerates. It happens not everytime.

 

That's quite a jump from a 1.4TSi to a 280! 

If it's idling at 1,200rpm then it's probably in Sport mode. In D mode mine idles around 800rpm & my 6 speed DSG is fairly smooth & relaxed. In Sport mode the gear changes are more aggressive & at higher revs. Of course you can also use the steering wheel paddles or gear shifter to change gear manually. Personally I have my DCC set for Sport & leave the DSG in D for most of the time & use the paddle downshift when slowing down. 

^^^^ is what I do, albeit I’ve been using E on my enormous 4 mile round trip to work (🤣) now the weather has warmed-up; definitely improves MPG. My 2016 idles at 1000 in S mode. 

Thanks guys,

1.4 TSI to 280 is nice upgrade, altough 1.4 TSI was far from slow, idle was 700-800 rpm, which was completely silent.

 

DSG7 is pretty fast, but down/up shifting sometimes is not seamless, it's noticable when leaving roundabout for example and it shifts from 2 to 3, there is a small hiccup

 

31 minutes ago, numskull said:

^^^^ is what I do, albeit I’ve been using E on my enormous 4 mile round trip to work (🤣) now the weather has warmed-up; definitely improves MPG. My 2016 idles at 1000 in S mode. 

4 mile round trip!! Does it get fully warmed up in 2 miles? Your mpg must be well south of 25. 

I tried but I couldn't get on with E / coast mode. Watching the rev counter drop to 900rpm when I was travelling at 65mph was just wrong. I also found I was using the brakes much more to compensate for the lack of engine braking. I quickly went back to D mode & Sport when needed.  

8 hours ago, Colin170CR said:

4 mile round trip!! Does it get fully warmed up in 2 miles?

Yeah, in the Summer it’s fine… well, not the oil, obviously (thank gawd for 5/30!) In the winter it does struggle.

8 hours ago, Colin170CR said:

Your mpg must be well south of 25.

Currently 27. Drops to 24 in the Winter. Gentle right foot and using Eco does help, as there are long stretches I can coast. 
 

 

8 hours ago, Colin170CR said:

Watching the rev counter drop to 900rpm when I was travelling at 65mph was just wrong.

I know what you mean, but I’ve always coasted whenever I could when I had a manual, so it doesn’t bother me. In any event, you can use the paddles to downshift if y’want. 

2023 Mk3.FL 280ps DSG7

 

800 rpm can be seen only in 'N'

1000 rpm in 'D'

1200 rpm in 'S'

 

Edited 14 May, 20242 yr by MartiniB