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SKODA FABIA SMOKING SH** L**ds, BRAND NEW TURBO

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     HELLO GUYS I AM WONDERING IF ANYBODY COULD HELP ME..

 

I HAVE A 2005 SKODA FABIA VRS AND ABOUT  A MONTH AGO MY TURBO DECIDED TO FAIL.

 

THE (TURBO PROPPELER SHAFT HAD SNAPPED) AND OIL WENT THROUGH ALL MY PIPEWORK AND EXHAUST PIPE.

 

I GOT A BRAND NEW TURBO FOR MY FABIA FROM GAP TURBOS. I CLEANED ALL THE PIPES OUT AND GOT A NEW INTERCOOLER AS THERE WAS BITS OF METAL IN THERE, INCLUDING NEW OIL AND OIL FILTER..

 

SO I GOT THE TURBO FITTED BY A MECHANIC AND ***WHEN I WENT BACK TO THE GARAGE HE SAID I WAS MISSING THE PIPE THAT COMES OFF THE MANIFOLD INTO MY EGR.  IT HAD A BLANKING PLATE BOLTED ON. 

 

HE EXPLAINED TO ME THIS IS PROBLY WHY MY TURBO WENT BECAUSE ITS CONSTANTLY OVER BOOSTING, AND IT WOULD BE BETTER TO GO BACK TO STANDARD AND BUY THE PIPE.

 

SO IVE BROUGHT THE PIPE GOT IT FITTED AND THE CAR WAS DONE BRAND NEW TURBO FRESH OIL/FILTER PIPES, INTERCOOLER, AND THE CAR IS DECATTED. THE CAR SHOULD BE OK NOW. HE EXPLAINED THE CAR IS GOING TO SMOKE FOR A FEW DAYS AND AFTER A FEW DAYS GIVE IT SOME NOW AND AGAIN TO CLEAR IT OUT.

 

MY CAR IS STILL SMOKING NOW A MONTH AND HALF LATER, WHEN I PUT MY FOOT DOWN IT SMOKES AND I MEAN ALOT IF I GET MY CAR JETWASHED NOW IT WILL BE COMPLETLY BLACK AT THE BACK 5 MINS LATER. (BLACK SUT)

 

THE CAR IS REALLY BAD ON DIESEL PLEASE HELP WHAT COULD IT BE THERE IS NO LEAKS IN NONE OF THE PIPES IVE LOOKED AND LOOKED AGAIN, THE CAR IS DECATTED ALSO. SOMEONE SAID I MIGHT NEED TO BUY A NEW EGR OR ONE OF THEM BLACK BOX THINGS THAT ARE NEAR TO MY WATER FILLER CAP UNDER BONNET

 

WHAT COULD CAUSE IT TO SMOKE SO MUCH AND BE VERY POOR ON DIESEL PLEASE HELPP

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  MY CAR DID NOT SMOKE BEFORE ALL THIS, BUT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER I DIDNT HAVE THE EGR PIPE FITTED B4, IT WAS A BLANKING PLATE

Has it had a dpf delete as well as cat removed 

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Has it had a dpf delete as well as cat removed 

 

it doesnt have a dpf on it as far is im aware on a 2005

Ah right 

Id tell them to blank it off again, EGRs are known to use 3% more fuel ,is it mapped?

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 thats what im going to have to do get them 2 blanking plates bolted back on i just dont want my new turbo going  :sweat:

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is the blanking plates the egr delete?

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yeah the car is mapped also but i never ever remember it smoking as bad as it is now, if i put my foot down to get up a hill i can imagine the car behind wants to slow down and make a gap due to the smoke because i would

Down on power at all?

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yeah alot of power loss. im thinking thats maybe due to smoke because the more i put my foot down the more smoke will billow out and when i look in my mirrors to the rear its just billowing out. anc you can feel the turbo working,but before the turbo went on this and it was replaced it was quick as hell i couldnt fault it at all. i was very happy

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this car must be overfuelling due to so much black smoke and my mpg when i fill up, the mpg is disgraceful, i remember before i would get atleast 80miles to a £10 now im getting around 40miles to a £10  and thats not right

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this is my second fabia vrs now and i think this car with the smoke issue and the mpg and power its ridiculous :thumbdown:

As has been said - you are over-fuelling or rather, the injectors are delivering the right amount of diesel for the air that the turbo should be producing.

But it isnt. This is also why you are down on power.

 

This can often be caused  an air leak on the high pressure side of the turbo so check all the pipework to/from the inter-cooler and the inlet manifold.

 

Is the turbo the correct one for this car ?

 

Is there an issue with the mechanism driven from the bellows or indeed the controls that manage the device - pipes to N95 (can't recall names).

I recon as above, either leaking/ loose/ blown boost pipe, or turbo has not been setup right. Do you have any details of the turbo. Was it brand new, or reconditioned/ re manufactured ?

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yeah the turbo is the original one that was reconditioned at gap turbos and no i cannot here any leaks when im driving it.

 

i do remember when the turbo was fitted back on when they connected all the pipes the main pipe that connects into the turbo wasnt in the correct place,

 

basically the metal part of the turbo where the boost pipe goes in is supposed to be facing down at 6 oclock and basically it wasnt the metal part of the turbo where boost pipe goes in was at an angle and was in the 9 o clock position which explained why pipes where short.

 

he had to add another extension of boost pipe which was tightened on both ends of the pipes where the lugs hold the clips had jubilee clips added on properly and isnt leaking for a fact im sure.

 

so basically the boost pipe that comes out of the turbo has a rubber pipe at the end thats extended on and connecting to the metal pipe that runs underneath the belt. so basically one pipe is longer than it should be from factory, could this be the root cause now im wondering

Has it had a dpf delete as well as cat removed 

the mk1 fabia never had a dpf did it???

boost leak!

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nope i dont think it did

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do you think so? would i be able to hear a boost leak. i will have to take pics tommorow which better explains it

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i might take the egr pipe back off like b4 turbo went, put the blank plates on and see what its like then if it smokes and hasnt as much power it could only be a boost leak then im sure

it would hum louder depending on how bad the leak is worse on fuel and down on power also smoke like a pig

You could do with a laptop, VCDS lite and an interface cable to see what's going on. You can log requested boost and actual boost over the rpm range. If it's miles out then I'd say the turbo isn't set up correctly or there is a leak somewhere. It will potentially need mapping again, they don't smoke that bad under acceleration unless something is a miss.

 

I'd imagine re-adding the EGR valve when it had been mapped without one in place would also cause running issues but I might be wrong. 

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yeah the turbo is the original one that was reconditioned at gap turbos and no i cannot here any leaks when im driving it.

 

i do remember when the turbo was fitted back on when they connected all the pipes the main pipe that connects into the turbo wasnt in the correct place,

 

basically the metal part of the turbo where the boost pipe goes in is supposed to be facing down at 6 oclock and basically it wasnt the metal part of the turbo where boost pipe goes in was at an angle and was in the 9 o clock position which explained why pipes where short.

 

he had to add another extension of boost pipe which was tightened on both ends of the pipes where the lugs hold the clips had jubilee clips added on properly and isnt leaking for a fact im sure.

 

so basically the boost pipe that comes out of the turbo has a rubber pipe at the end thats extended on and connecting to the metal pipe that runs underneath the belt. so basically one pipe is longer than it should be from factory, could this be the root cause now im wondering

 

Yes i had this issue,

 

It seems to me when the turbo has been reconditioned, its not been put back to spec ie your turbo really needed clocking to the factory position. Which also leads me to question if the actuator rod and stop nut have been setup incorrectly also.

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yeah very right. i am thinking because they havent clocked my turbo back on the manifold facing the right direction this is maybe causing the issues because i have had to add an extension of pipework to the boost pipes which makes it differant than the standard setup?

 

also the extension of pipework that was fitted was the same thickness and heavy duty so it fitted over the lugs of original boost pipe and had to be heated up to make this snug fit an heavy duty jubillee clips were added on to metal endings.the pipe had been heated up and forced on the metal end of boost pipes were the lugs were so the jubilee clips had something to tighten down to with the added fact the pipe was heated for ages and still had to be forced on.

 

and like what mattybvrs said the car has been mapped and had egr blank plates fitted.

 

and when turbo went and was replaced i connected the egr back up could this cause issues because its a diff setup from when it was remapped

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