Within another thread I was recently rather critical about the ASR on my vRS. When you need to quickly pull away from a rapidly approaching 30 tonner on greasy roads; the sudden loss of power during a wheel spin can be a bit frightening.:eek:

However, today on an steep icy hill I found the ASR to be quite impressive. Whilst going up hill I deliberately floored it to see how it would behave. The ASR very quickly brought the spinning wheel under control and ignored my heavy footed accelerator input to bring the car back into line asap.

Horses for courses i think.

Thus I think I will turn ASR off for those quick getways, but in near-zero traction conditions where you just want to keep going- it seems to work.

But Skoda suggest to turn ASR off in deep snow. (How deep is deep?)

Any comments.

Jules, it's one option I considered for my car but on hindsight, I'm sorry I didn't order it. I read some equally impressive comments from ASR gizmos even from other manufacturers and am disappointed I left it off the option list.

Jules, it's one option I considered for my car but on hindsight, I'm sorry I didn't order it. I read some equally impressive comments from ASR gizmos even from other manufacturers and am disappointed I left it off the option list.

ASR is standard on the vrs:confused:

He probably means ESP.... which I have on my Clio, but what the difference is between it and normal traction control I am yet to discover...

He probably means ESP.... which I have on my Clio, but what the difference is between it and normal traction control I am yet to discover...

ESP will brake each appropriate wheel in the event of a skid. Traction control kills the drive to the front wheels.

I'm in two minds over the ASR at the moment. It's a bit disconcerting as it lets the wheels spin up for what feels like a couple of seconds if you go for a quick start then it feels like it's bogged down when it kills the power. However it does seem quite effective when one wheel has grip and the other doesn't. It makes pulling out of tight junctions easier in the current slush/ice we've got here and keeps the car tracking straight when you accelerate hard once moving.

It's probably all down to perception, the ASR will probably kick my *** in a back to back test in the current conditions. I just think I'm better :-)

I'm in two minds over the ASR at the moment. It's a bit disconcerting as it lets the wheels spin up for what feels like a couple of seconds if you go for a quick start then it feels like it's bogged down when it kills the power. However it does seem quite effective when one wheel has grip and the other doesn't. It makes pulling out of tight junctions easier in the current slush/ice we've got here and keeps the car tracking straight when you accelerate hard once moving.

It's probably all down to perception' date=' the ASR will probably kick my *** in a back to back test in the current conditions. I just think I'm better :-)[/quote']

It's the first thing I turn off when I get in it.

Experimented this morning by turning it off.Results? Nothing.

Only difference was having a constant light on instead of a flashing one telling me I'm wheelspinning.

^ Is your ASR working properly? You should really get noticable difference in power when ASR is on and wheels are trying to spin. Without ASR you only get loads of wheelspin.... which is nice

^ Is your ASR working properly? You should really get noticable difference in power when ASR is on and wheels are trying to spin. Without ASR you only get loads of wheelspin.... which is nice

It's all down to driving style - if you don't just floor the throttle everywhere and accelerate quickly and smoothly, you'll not notice any difference because the ASR isn't needing to step in in normal operation

Chris

Only time I notice mine is when I give it loads of stick on a wet road - even at 40mph it comes in. At that speed it works well.

Technically, there is a big difference between ASR and ESP, quite a few threads on this very web site & by googling.

Personally however personally I find ESP interfering (particularly on my Dad's Merc and on my brothers old Clio 172 before he bought the Cup - NO TCS or ESP or ABS for that matter ).

I noticed an improvement when I have my car remapped, noticably. It seems like the ASR has been backed off :confused:, not sure if this is a placebo affect but IIRC others have also commented on it being a tad better.

Apologies for my hiccup .I was driving my Octavia which only has ASR.Noticed now this is the Fabia section.

Same applies for all cars I suppose though.

Technically' date=' there is a big difference between ASR and ESP, quite a few threads on this very web site & by googling.

Personally however personally I find ESP interfering (particularly on my Dad's Merc and on my brothers old Clio 172 before he bought the Cup - NO TCS or ESP or ABS for that matter ).

I noticed an improvement when I have my car remapped, noticably. It seems like the ASR has been backed off :confused:, not sure if this is a placebo affect but IIRC others have also commented on it being a tad better.[/quote']

You may have more lag due to the remap hence the power comes in later so less likely to spin.

It's all down to driving style - if you don't just floor the throttle everywhere and accelerate quickly and smoothly, you'll not notice any difference because the ASR isn't needing to step in in normal operation

Yep, you're right. I did write, that

You should really get noticable difference in power when ASR is on and wheels are trying to spin.

To sum it, ASR doesn't affect on normal driving situation, but when your wheels start so spin it affects on power output. This is really bad, if you're overtaking for examble a lorry on a snowy road and ASR comes along when you're in a wrong lane and a car is coming on it.

I am very confused, but i think i am getting somewhere. So:

• When i push in the ASR button in my Octy and the light appears constant on the dashboard, then ASR is OFF?? and the wheels will spin??
  
• When i don't push the button in and the light only comes on when the power is cut (during wheel spin) then the ASR is on??
  

Up till now i always thought it was the opposite way around. Maybe this is why i thought the ASR didn't work:O

JD

that is correct JD

Apologies for my hiccup .I was driving my Octavia which only has ASR.Noticed now this is the Fabia section.

Same applies for all cars I suppose though.

It works just as same in Octavia. If you turn it off and push the pedal to the metal, you should get wheelspin. With ASR on you only get mooooo-moooooo-mooooo instead as you pump the pedal

ESP tries to keeps the car going in the same direction as you turn the steering wheel. As Jon TDI says it will brake the appropriate wheel(s) on the car to stop it slipping off the road or away from the line that the sterring wheel is directed in.

I see the sytems are linked like this:

ABS is electronic for braking

Traction Control for Accelerating

ESP for cornering

Reviews have said that ESP is the best technological advancements in motor vehicles in the last 2 decades.

apparently 50% of all road accidents could be preventing if all cars had ESP fitted as standard.

I think whats said above is pretty much correct. Thats why I find my ESP ok in wet days when cornering(works pretty well then) but when pulling away quickly, you get better results having ESP/ASR switched off.

What I have found, is that in dry conditions, I can handle the car better than the ESP can. On a few occasions I have been cornering hard in the dry and ESP has braked one of the back wheels. Now as you can imagine, this is not funny!

ASR I discovered in the snow in the Peak District is actually very good on slippery surfaces - just floor it and steer! Requires a certain degree of poised steering for getting the car round the twisties, but the ASR is remarkably good at keeping things under control. I don't like to rely on it, though, or ABS for that matter.

Is EDL standard on the TDi's?

But there's no substitute for safe, sensible drivingUp Mode>

I didn't find ESP that useful/noticeable on the Fabia vRS but the Octy II vRS has it standard and you can actually feel it working as you try to lose the car on a corner (had to test it )

Trust me - on the Fab vRS ESP does work and it works well. Less intrusive than the ASR, and it really made a BIG difference in the snow/ice conditions, as well as when you're going a little too fast for that corner

I recently could not get up my drive cos of the snow. I had the traction control ON and it kept cutting the power. I turned it OFF and I sailed up !!

^ that is how it's told to do in manual also (at least in finnish version). Don't you guys read the manuals