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Personally, I've driven a Micra and a Citigo. The Micra was perfectly competent and was perfectly satisfactory in terms of driving experience, but it was simply dull. Plenty of toys, but there wasn't anything that woo'd you regarding the driving experience.

The Citigo I test drove seemed to be a lot more sparse (was SE spec) but for some reason just felt more exciting to drive. The engine seemed more peppy and encouraged you to go faster everywhere, while also being very refined and grown up at 30.

I will be the first to admit that even the top spec SE L is incredibly sparse compared to other cars, and I'd swap the heated seats for cruise control or parking sensors. But at the end of the day, what swayed me was the little Citigo seemed to have a personality, a cheeky little dog who runs around tugging on the lead everywhere, whereas the Micra just felt like a four wheeled vehicle that took you from A to B with the minimum of fuss.

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In the UK in 2015 the 2nd highest seller was the Vauxhall Corsa. (or first registered, maybe Vauxhall still owned the majority.)

But that was more Corsa than all the Skoda sold in the UK. (or first registered....)

But 70-80,000 is nothing compared to Ford Fiesta sold, leased etc in 2015 which was no.1 with over 116,000

I'm with the general consensus, lots of Citigo's & UP's and very few Mii's.

The trend here is the money areas have more UP's and the Citigo are spread everywhere else :)

Loads of Up!s in Cheltenham.

The neighbours probably see the Citigo parked outside and view it as they would an old mattress or fridge dumped on the lawn.

Still, at least we've got a gravel drive. Well, I say gravel drive, it's a concrete drive that's crumbled, but at least it makes the right noise

I have to admit, compared to say, the Toyota Aygo, I do think the Citigo/Up!/Mii trio are quite rare. If they're selling badly new, it explains the rubbish second hand values.

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Yet the reviews praise the car's great residual value.
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Yet the reviews praise the car's great residual value.

 

I'd have to agree, they appear to do quite well, I've been looking for a little while and would say that the residuals are pretty strong, as always there is a spread with some high-mileage, low spec cars going cheap, but below average mileage vehicles with a halfway decent spec appear to be holding their value pretty well. Also even with a few miles on them they do seem to wear it well. (Citigo & Up) Likewise they are a relatively new model, I think they only appeared in the latter part of 2012 and depreciation is always more severe in the first 3 year before prices plateau off.

 

Autoexpress also thinks superminis do well “Small and supermini cars are the residual value kings of the used car market, a position they are unlikely to relinquish in the foreseeable future,”

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Residuals on the Citigo are not too bad. My high miler Elegance 75ps Greentech sold at 107,000 miles had the lowest depreciation of any tuition car I've owned, both in terms of overall cost and percentage of new cost.

The VW family sub mini cars are subjectively better to drive than the competition. I tried several competitors including Renault Twingo, Hyundai i10, Kia Panto, Toyota Aygo. The Citigo was my favourite to drive. The Korean cars where slightly better specs for the money, the Renault and Toyota where both more expensive for comparable spec.

Something that doesn't get mentioned so much is the effectiveness of the eco measure. A couple of instructors I know using i10s get significantly poorer fuel economy than I do, achieving low 40 mpg, to my low 50s.

The VW family sub mini cars are subjectively better to drive than the competition.

 

What do your learners think of it?

Yet the reviews praise the car's great residual value.

There's been quite a few posts from people on here complaining that their Citigos lose a lot of money and are often not worth the final payment?

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What do your learners think of it?

They universally like it.

There's been quite a few posts from people on here complaining that their Citigos lose a lot of money and are often not worth the final payment?

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It's the same across nearly every car brand / model range. The PCP has really damaged used car values across the board.

At least if the new VW Up! GTI is coming with the 1.0 tsi and manual or 7 speed DSG there might be some improvements for a face lifted Citigo.

More sporty looks and trinkets if not some upped power.

 

Surely a decent Automated Manual gearbox can go in the Citigo.

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The Up GTi or whatever it ends up being called has the making of worthy successor to the original MKI Golf GTi. It will be about the same size, even though most consider it a city-car the Up is around the same size as the original MKi Golf. It will be lighter, stiffer and on modern running gear. The turbo charged triple is reputed to produce 113bhp & 147lbs of troque, which would make power output slightly better than an early MKII 1.8-8V @ 112bhp but with more torque. Mated to a 6 speed manual or DSG (If it will fit) it should make a great little car. Time will tell.

 

 

 

It has the potential to be one of the most interesting cars VW have produced in the last decade. I would imagine a Skoda variant would follow within a few months of launch.

It will be about the same size, even though most consider it a city-car the Up is around the same size as the original MKi Golf. It will be lighter, stiffer and on modern running gear.

The Golf weighed 810kg. The Up! Weighs around 860kg. A hot version with a more complex engine, more robust gearbox and bigger wheels would probably be around the 900kg mark.

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The Golf weighed 810kg. The Up! Weighs around 860kg. A hot version with a more complex engine, more robust gearbox and bigger wheels would probably be around the 900kg mark.

I'd be willing to bet on the road they would still be very evenly matched. I read a review of the MKiII Gti compared to the 1.2TSi (105bhp) and they were very close considering the Polo is much heavier. Given the extra torque generated by the turbo and all the additional safety kit in modern vehicles it's a reasonable trade off.

 

Found it...

 

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/polo/19396/volkswagen-polo-second-report

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TSI UP is already available in Brasil market. (pre facelift too) extended test mule))??

 

 

A quick look on vw brasil web site sets the tone for and future VW UP GTI / Skoda Citigo VRS?? performance figures.

 

http://www.vw.com.br/pt/carros/up.html

 

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My sons first car is a pre reg  ( 40 miles on clock) citigo monte carlo for £7600 incl 2 free services. Certainly wouldn't be a good choice at list price but at this price and with an est conservative  2 year residual of £5k with 20k miles I consider this to very cheap trouble free motoring. Yes the citigo lacks a bit of ooomf but it is a quality safe product and way more refined than the Aygo/108/C1 brigade.

Clearly geared for a second gear 100kph optimum time but 8 seconds ish 0-62mph seems to be on offer with the TSI

 

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