EU referendum/Brexit discussion - Part 2

[lol-lol]

5 minutes ago, S00perb said:

 

Met a few Con MPs over the years, not Ken unfortunately. He believes what he believes because of his background, he can't help that. But on this, he has a ton of experience and knows it is worth trying to get people to see sense

 

It is been chaos since 2010 with a governments without  the intelligence to deal with today's issues...

 

 

 

[S00perb]

18 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

 

It is been chaos since 2010 with a governments without  the intelligence to deal with today's issues...

 

 

Yep. Used to be they were posh kids with intelligence or not so posh kids with intelligence.

Now just posh stupid kids

[gadgetman]

Good to see Mr Aaron Banks finally being investigated over leave campaign donations and various companies groups he's apparently linked to 

[S00perb]

1 hour ago, gadgetman said:

Good to see Mr Aaron Banks finally being investigated over leave campaign donations and various companies groups he's apparently linked to 

 

The man who 'bank rolled Brexit' got his money from..............PUTIN and is even tied up in the Trump Russia connection.

Like I have said for ages, Putin wants a weak US and weak EU - we are handing it to him on a plate.

 

Banks is a very dodgy businessman:

https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/brexitinc/adam-ramsay/how-did-arron-banks-afford-brexit

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Crucial to maintaining the fabric of democracy in Britain is understanding where large donors have made their money, and just as importantly, how.

Our review of the publicly available records for Banks’ business empire, and his own public statements, has revealed a patchwork of legal disputes, regulator interventions, and poor corporate governance. Two of Banks’ claimed previous employers have denied he ever worked for them. The value of his businesses are materially lower than Banks’ own inflated boasts and, while still a wealthy man, was he wealthy enough to give so much to the Brexit campaign, without some other undisclosed source of income?

How Banks could afford to give so lavishly remains a mystery. There is no doubt that Banks did more than most to make Brexit happen – the question is, how could he afford it?

 

[Ootohere]

Mr or Mrs Banks do like a little joke.

 

Donations supporting Remain organisations that came to them via Northern Ireland need the same scrutiny. 

Edited 1 November, 2017 by Headinawayoffski

[@Lee]

Odious man. I've nothing but contempt for him.
Leaves a trail of chaos in his wake.
 

[@Lee]

6 hours ago, skomaz said:

 

That's about the usual turnout for a parliamentary session after all...

Unless it's about a vote to give themselves a pay rise/ increase their expenditure allowance................

[gadgetman]

20 minutes ago, Lee01 said:

Odious man. I've nothing but contempt for him.
Leaves a trail of chaos in his wake.
 

It's very easy to see how brexit and being free from EU legislation benefits him and his companies without looking too hard. 

 

He's only interested in himself and his pocket 

 

[@Lee]

8 minutes ago, gadgetman said:

It's very easy to see how brexit and being free from EU legislation benefits him and his companies without looking too hard. 

 

He's only interested in himself and his pocket 

 

Same goes for Murdoch, The Barclay Brothers and Harmsworth 4th Viscount Rothermere.
Love how they champion the working man and are 'outraged' about tax dodgers..............

[lol-lol]

Creep Fallon resigns !!

[Ryeman]

Map of pan European plants and OEMs..........as of now!

http://europe.autonews.com/article/20171101/ANE/171019654/psa-opel-fusion-shakes-up-european-production-footprint?cciid=email-autonews-blast

[Ootohere]

Anyone that thinks the UK will go down the pan because of BREXIT should watch BBC's 'The Super-Rich and Us', it will be on Iplayer.

 

There is going to be no shortage of the Super-Rich in the UK and the properties they own.

Theresa May MP was rattled today, but they Tax Evasion is something she knows plenty about and if she needs it explained her husband can do that for her.

The Isle of Man does seem to be getting away with taking the pith, and the Channel Islands.

[@Lee]

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MPs vote for Theresa May to release 58 secret studies into Brexit's economic 'damage'

Fury as ministers refuse to say they will abide by what independent parliamentary clerks advised would be a 'binding' decision
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-theresa-may-studies-economic-damage-vote-mps-force-latest-a8032311.html

The truth will out.............

[gadgetman]

54 minutes ago, Headinawayoffski said:

Anyone that thinks the UK will go down the pan because of BREXIT should watch BBC's 'The Super-Rich and Us', it will be on Iplayer.

 

There is going to be no shortage of the Super-Rich in the UK and the properties they own.

Theresa May MP was rattled today, but they Tax Evasion is something she knows plenty about and if she needs it explained her husband can do that for her.

The Isle of Man does seem to be getting away with taking the pith, and the Channel Islands.

The super rich only pay 1% of the total tax bill levied by hmrc. 

 

So the number of rich is meaningless George. 

 

Same with corporations who exploit our tax system and pay pretty much zero tax. 

 

 

[gadgetman]

32 minutes ago, Lee01 said:

Fury as ministers refuse to say they will abide by what independent parliamentary clerks advised would be a 'binding' decision
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-theresa-may-studies-economic-damage-vote-mps-force-latest-a8032311.html

The truth will out.............

The people will be pleased. 

 

So who will BoJo etc blame for their lies sold to the voting  public as fact? 

[Ootohere]

No the number of rich is not meaningless, they might only pay £30,000 as a non dom, 

but they value of the properties they have invested in are bringing in Taxes to the UK. It is building works in the UK, materials are not all imported for the residences, commercial and other properties.

Even if no real dribble down from them there is spending of their wealth, banking off it and all the UK facilities providing for the needs and wishes.

 

BREXIT could be all change for the UK but then un-likely as it will be as The Donald is doing in the US, tax to suit those with the special deals.

 

If anyone is selling up and shipping out plenty more want in.

http://bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04xw2x8/the-superrich-and-us-episode-1 

 

From the horses mouth today came a figure on percentage of tax paid.

 

"the top 1% of earners in this country pays 28% of the tax burden",  rather different from

"The super rich pays only 1% of the tax bill levied by the hmrc."  Maybe the super rich are not 'earners'..

 

Capital International / Capital Group knows all about those paying taxes and evasion or avoidance maybe, and Trusts and Offshore / Overseas British Tax Havens, 

maybe way she is riled.

 

 

Edited 1 November, 2017 by Headinawayoffski

[Ryeman]

Singapore and Dublin are doing OK but it’s a race to the bottom.

[S00perb]

14 hours ago, lol-lol said:

Creep Fallon resigns !!

 

How in the world can Fallon go and not BoJo the Clown - BoJo is inappropriate every time he opens his mouth!

[Ootohere]

Because Sir Michael thought Boris would support him in going as leader of the Conservatives so Prime Minister.

Loose lips cost lives, and drunken loose lips are very dangerous.

The PM was the Home Secretary driving around with the same Security people as the Defence Secretary has, and the Home Secretary gets all the dirt, 

even the dirt on the Whips.

 

Why are they all able to consume subsidies drinks, and behave as they do.

Eric Joyce & Charles Kennedy etc got all the coverage on problems they might have had, but what about all the others voting on matters that can take the UK into war and has and they would be over the limit to drive a car, some have even been caught over the limit for alcohol driving cars.  Sir Michael being one..

 

The sun might be full of crap, but then so is the Houses of Parliament full of chancers, dancers, prancers and alckies.

Webcam up the place, do Drug testing at random on the Staff & Elected members, 

what is good for the armed forces personnel is good for the gander.

Commons 'rape' highlights debauched culture of Westminster dominated by monster drinking sessions, illicit drugs and sex.mhtml

Edited 2 November, 2017 by Headinawayoffski

[S00perb]

Just shows the majority of those that want power are the very ones that shopud never get power

New rule: If you help to make the law - you get double the punishment if you break it.

That's fair isn't it?

[Ootohere]

There is a Who will be the next Prime Minister thread.  This pic might have been good there.

 

Money might have been on the lady in Black, but no chance now, Fly with the Crows etc, but shooting your flock or stabbing in the back is not a good career move.

 

 

A Home Secretary or a Defence one that can not ensure someone is seeing the Party Conference is Secure is pretty pants really, 

Do they forget Brighton so easily.

Theresa May MP looks like a person that might just hold a grudge.

Edited 2 November, 2017 by Headinawayoffski

[CWARD]

14 minutes ago, S00perb said:

Just shows the majority of those that want power are the very ones that shopud never get power

New rule: If you help to make the law - you get double the punishment if you break it.

That's fair isn't it?

 

Wow, a sensible post at last and I agree.

[domhnall]

15 hours ago, lol-lol said:

Creep Fallon resigns !!

 

a certain Scottish party leader must be sh***ing herself if he's had to go for feeling a knee -considerign what skeletons she's got in her past

[Ootohere]

Lets see how she is on First Ministers Question time today.

Been a bit quiet this passed week.

'Clean the stables, shovel the sharn!'  It was all 'STRONG & STABLE', to 'WTF is that stink in the stable?'

Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson says it's time to 'clean out the stables' as Westminster _ The Independent.mhtml

Edited 2 November, 2017 by Headinawayoffski

[S00perb]

Looking everywhere to try and work this out

Has Fallon resigned as an MP or just a Minister?

If the latter, what a Con artist. He gets loads of pay, expenses and reduced priced drinks at the commons bar and has no responsibility.

If he has done wrong, he needs to go properly!