According to this web site:

http://www.tyrolsport.com/sidemount.htm

It certainly makes for some interesting reading (although it's a 1.8T).

Hmmmm, they must have used the smallest FMIC possible for their uprated SMIC to have a bigger capacity.... :confused:

For the Fabia, there's no getting away from the fact all the FMICs out there "weee" all over the standard FMIC. (may be not with arch liner pikey mod though, which we all know adds 80bhp. )

(may be not with arch liner pikey mod though, which we all know adds 80bhp. )

Adds 81.2bhp if you want to be accurate.

Perhaps they have a well-performing SMIC. Thing is that the Fabia vRS has a fundamental problem not with the SMIC itself so much, but more with no cool air getting to it nor hot air being disposed off.

In the case of that scenario I believe the FMIC will will hands down, as there is proper airflow through it on the Furby.

Octavia wise I don't know how the airflow goes through the SMIC on that, wouldnt like to comment on it :(

Adds 81.2bhp if you want to be accurate.

If you want to be really pedantic it adds 81.25671 bhp and 3x10^7 lb/ft torque

:D:D

interesting to read none the less..

Adds 81.2bhp if you want to be accurate.

With a Magic Tree air freshener I heard rumours of an increase of around 90bhp, at the wheel

with a peco back box it can push over 300 bhp and keep up with a scooby

Still worth it then. That said if you also buy one of those magic tree things it would DEFFO be pushing out a few more than that still :P :P

b*ll*x when someone else has the same sense of humour and undercuts your post :D

Must admit, I always wondered why my Furby always seemed a lot slower after I'd been for a thrash, and it does seem to be the poor airflow to the intercooler to blame.

Ah well, havent even got a turbo to worry about now

b*ll*x when someone else has the same sense of humour and undercuts your post :D

So what's the concensus?

Is a FMIC upgrade worth the cost ( in terms of performance) ie.

It depends how much extra boost you are running. Even on standard boost (ie no remap) it will reduce the max output when trashing it through the gears. With a remap there is more heat generated so the effects will be a LOT quicker to get noticed.

Whether it's worth the expense is a much harder question. Venting the arch and cutting out a bit of the plastic around the fog light on the driver side will help a fair bit and costs very little. It will also not qualify as a modification to the engine as you're not touching the engine at all, unlike a FMIC.

FMIC you'd have to declare as an engine mod - which will kick the price up even higher, potentially. That said, you can tune a fair bit higher when the cooling is matched to the turbo boosting more.

Not the straight-forward yes/no answer you were looking for. If money is not really an issue then it's worthwhile for sure though

Not the straight-forward yes/no answer you were looking for.

Maybe not, but its bloody well close enough!

John.

I did try, honest :P

So what's the concensus?

Is a FMIC upgrade worth the cost ( in terms of performance) ie.

Surely the cost of relocating the stock SMIC to the front would be a cheaper option with some reasonable benefits, as opposed to spending to £600 on a new (admitedly bigger) FMIC.

Afterall, all you'd nee is a bracket and the appropriate pipework !!

Hmmmm' date=' they must have used the smallest FMIC possible for their uprated SMIC to have a bigger capacity.... :confused:

For the Fabia, there's no getting away from the fact all the FMICs out there "weee" all over the standard FMIC. (may be not with arch liner pikey mod though, which we all know adds 80bhp. )[/quote']

Only 80hp !! Can't be bothered doin' it then.

Try a search for IC waterspray for

Waterspray has one tiny problem - which is that you will run out of water rather a lot. That said it's VERY cost effective, for sure

It may be possible to move the SMIC to the front, assuming that it fits in front of the radiator and that you can get the pipework through. I have a feeling it may be a fair bit harder than it looks. Otherwise, why didnt they do it as standard. My guess is that the extra lag caused by just using longer pipes would have been considered a negative.

The Audi TT with twin SMIC must have been fun to balance to get the flows spread between the two sides etc, but they have a way for the hot air to escape.

The most fundamental flaw with the Fabia vRS SMIC is not the SMIC, it's the lack of airflow, mainly on the 'hot' side to get rid of the heat. That will then increase heatsoak further

The most fundamental flaw with the Fabia vRS SMIC is not the SMIC, it's the lack of airflow, mainly on the 'hot' side to get rid of the heat. That will then increase heatsoak further

Bingo. It's not just the capacity of the cooler - after all, bigger coolers generally have the downside of causing more lag, if they are significantly bigger or have lots of added pipework. It's more to do with the fact that intercoolers are heat exchangers, and as such, the minute the air around the cooler is hot, you want rid of it, sharpish.

A FMIC with a massive source of air coming in through the front bumper and flowing out in pretty much every direction, will manage this a lot better than a SMIC which has a limited feed or cold air in, and (as standard) an even more limited escape route for the hot air.

Has anyone investigated getting more cool air to the SMIC, in addition to the pikey arch mod? Just thinking, I have some flexible alu hosing left over from my last car, so if there's a route I can plumb it :rubchin:

Also, with the IC spray, I presume you plumb the water from the screen wash tank? Just wondering how sensible that is, especially at this time of year, with the concentration of anti-freeze, surely it's not a good idea blasting the IC with that?? Josh had it working I do believe?

Steve

Has anyone investigated getting more cool air to the SMIC' date=' in addition to the pikey arch mod? Just thinking, I have some flexible alu hosing left over from my last car, so if there's a route I can plumb it :rubchin:

Also, with the IC spray, I presume you plumb the water from the screen wash tank? Just wondering how sensible that is, especially at this time of year, with the concentration of anti-freeze, surely it's not a good idea blasting the IC with that?? Josh had it working I do believe?

Steve[/quote']

You put anti-freeze in the washer bottle?

Steve

Does the screenwash not contain additives that lower the temperature the water in the screenwash tank freezes at? To my mind that's anti-freeze :confused:

Obviously not the same stuff you put in a car radiator but I'm sure you understand what I'm getting at?

Steve

Does the screenwash not contain additives that lower the temperature the water in the screenwash tank freezes at? To my mind that's anti-freeze :confused:

Obviously not the same stuff you put in a car radiator but I'm sure you understand what I'm getting at?

Steve

Living in London the temps dont really get that low, i only use water and only really use it on the track.

Steve