Hi Guys,

Heres an update on the paint.

It is fallout from the rail dust of the transport from the factory apparently.

Upon closer inspection it is on every plastic panel but worse on the rear bumper.

The supplying dealer has said they will pay for it to go to a local detailer to be sorted,

a days car hire and as a goodwill gesture they will re-imburse me for a full tank of fuel.

So i they are sorting the problem which should have not happened in the first place so can't complain about that,, they just won't get my return business.

So new car owners my advice is to look very carefully (close up) at the paint when you receive your car especially if its light coloured yeti like mine as its a hassle that you can do without assure me!!

 

Other than this i love my Yeti, comfortable, smooth and a pleasure to drive.

Years ago new cars were sprayed over with a sticky waxy goo to give them protection, particularly during sea container shipping. It was then the job of the last delivery point dealership to remove protective coatings, prep. and inspect the car for delivery to the customer. Still, the problem with rail dust I guess is the same as my angle grinder: The steel can come off red hot and embeds itself in surfaces it lands on. The stuff that comes off brake linings is just the same since they now embed a lot of steel in the lining composition. Train bogeys have huge brake linings whilst the wheels and axles are always being worn down and refurbished.

 

Have a look around your windscreen and other glasses with an eyeglass magnifier to make sure there are no particles stuck to those as well. That happened to my double glazing.

Edited 9 February, 20179 yr by voxmagna

1 hour ago, Snollo said:

Hi Guys,

Heres an update on the paint.

It is fallout from the rail dust of the transport from the factory apparently.

Upon closer inspection it is on every plastic panel but worse on the rear bumper.

The supplying dealer has said they will pay for it to go to a local detailer to be sorted,

a days car hire and as a goodwill gesture they will re-imburse me for a full tank of fuel.

So i they are sorting the problem which should have not happened in the first place so can't complain about that,, they just won't get my return business.

So new car owners my advice is to look very carefully (close up) at the paint when you receive your car especially if its light coloured yeti like mine as its a hassle that you can do without assure me!!

 

Other than this i love my Yeti, comfortable, smooth and a pleasure to drive.

 

I wouldn't be so quick to discount your dealer. Sounds to me like they are being more than fair. On a darker car you probably wouldn't have noticed and I bet that if you spray some fallout remover on most new cars you will see evidence of fallout. The fact that its going to a detailer rather than a body shop is also a big plus for you. The good news is that while inconvenient its easily sorted without the need to resort to spraying.

 

Getting my Yeti on Saturday and when it warms up a bit I will be doing a full decontamination and clean. I'll record how much comes off it!

 

 

16 hours ago, SimonVespa said:

 

I wouldn't be so quick to discount your dealer. Sounds to me like they are being more than fair.

 

Was about to say the same - I'm sure there are others who'd try and wash their hands of it.

52 minutes ago, muddyboots said:

Was about to say the same - I'm sure there are others who'd try and wash their hands of it.

Had they of not played ball then I would have sent it back and asked for a replacement .

 

The dealer should have made sure that the car reached me in perfect condition being straight from the factory which it clearly wasn't.

 

It all begs the question: what else on the PDI (Pre-Delivery-Inspection) list did they not bother to do?  It seems incredible to me that a dealer would deliver a new vehicle to a customer without making sure it was at least clean!  If they couldn't do that,  I doubt if they did anything else, even the basic stuff like checking the fluid levels & tyre pressures,  let alone checking all electrical systems working properly etc. etc..

Industrial fallout only really becomes visible when the small bits of metal embedded in the paint oxidise (rust) so there is every chance that they were not visible when the car was PDI'd. Given that dealers typically employ third parties to clean and prep their cars. And those third parties will work to tight budgets it is unlikely that they will clay or apply fall out remover to every car they prepare.

 

To suggest that because this wasn't spotted other safety related issues were missed e.g. pressures and levels is a bit far fetched.

 

Bottom line is the issue wasn't present on collection. Once identified, after the fall out had oxidised probably due to rain or heavy dew, the dealer has agreed to put it right - with compensation. They could of easily walked away from this as they don't know where its been parked in the 150 miles covered.

 

This article gives a good overview of the problem which is not restricted to new cars and can be picked up by parking close to railway lines etc.

 

http://newagain.co.uk/articles/fallout.htm

 

 

Interesting,  didn't know about that.

What the Dealership does know is.  'If it is an isolated incident to only one of the many vehicles they have had delivered to and supplied from their premises'.

 

What Skoda UK the Importer knows if the vehicle in this thread was Transported from the Factory to a compound and to the supplying dealer or any others at the time were and there is an issue'. 

Seeing as they were not driving in convoy for the 150 miles that the OP's was.

 

They might not all be white, but some of them may still have issues with a Paint from Fall Out.

Since many of the parts exposed to contamination are made of plastic these days, I could design an electronic 'particle detector'. For anybody wanting to do it, I would suggest a Hall effect sensor: You scan the surfaces with a magnet over a thin tissue wipe to magnetise the particles, then go detecting them with the electronic Hall sensor, or you could cheap out and extend the playback/record head on an old cassette tape recorder for those that remember them! That way you get to find the embedded particles before they go rusty and become visible. If Skoda want to investigate the problem professionally, they only need to remove and X-ray the problem parts to show up surface metal contamination.

 

I hope the polishing/detailing works for the OP. It didn't work on my white window cill. Polishing them out just took off the rust coating, they were still there and went rusty again in acid rain.

 

I saw a really nice looking white Yeti in my local dealership. Hmm, perhaps I might think twice choosing white?

31 minutes ago, voxmagna said:

I hope the polishing/detailing works for the OP. It didn't work on my white window cill. Polishing them out just took off the rust coating, they were still there and went rusty again in acid rain.

 

Polishing is not the solution. You need to remove the particles either by plucking them out of the paint with a clay bar or by dissolving them chemically.

The site that I linked to on my previous post (on page 1 of this thread) suggests that you should not use clay to remove raildust as it may break off the tips of the particles?

 

http://www.carwash.com/what-is-rail-dust/

 

Jim

6 hours ago, SimonVespa said:

Industrial fallout only really becomes visible when the small bits of metal embedded in the paint oxidise (rust) so there is every chance that they were not visible when the car was PDI'd. Given that dealers typically employ third parties to clean and prep their cars. And those third parties will work to tight budgets it is unlikely that they will clay or apply fall out remover to every car they prepare.

 

To suggest that because this wasn't spotted other safety related issues were missed e.g. pressures and levels is a bit far fetched.

 

Bottom line is the issue wasn't present on collection. Once identified, after the fall out had oxidised probably due to rain or heavy dew, the dealer has agreed to put it right - with compensation. They could of easily walked away from this as they don't know where its been parked in the 150 miles covered.

 

This article gives a good overview of the problem which is not restricted to new cars and can be picked up by parking close to railway lines etc.

 

http://newagain.co.uk/articles/fallout.htm

 

 

I have used Newagain twice to do some touch up work on my 2011 Yeti when I had it.  Did an excellent job and would highly recommend them to anyone within striking distance of Chelmsford.

Has anybody ever seen a copy of a Skoda PDI? I bought a used VW with claims it had undergone a used car inspection. I found a load of faults without looking too hard. I got them fixed because I argued with VW customer service that any inspection worth making a claim to customers about was worthless based on my checks and findings. They wouldn't give me a copy, despite their claims.  If somebody here is buying a new Skoda, do you get a check list setting out what is checked and the results found on the car you accepted? Another wheeze some stealerships do on used cars is to tell you they only do a used car PDI after you have agreed to buy it.

Gave my new Yeti a good clean today. Have a look for some 'action' shots of fallout remover in action!

 

 

Had the same thing with 2 pre-reg FIATs. Didn't bother about it having had about 24% off one and 33% off the other. I guess the dealer group used to pre-reg the less than perfect ones.