Hello all,

 

I'm trying to retro-fit this OEM OPS kit - http://www.cars-equipment.com/www/en/shop/park-assistent-sets-kits-4/oem-rear-parktronic-for-skoda-octavia/ to my Octavia vRS estate, MK2, FL with a Bolero stereo.

Everything is in and VagCom is talking to the HW - I can talk to the unit, but none of the other systems can - when I put the car in reverse I don't get the OPS enable beep or display on the radio.

 - testing with VagCom I successfully get the two beep tones.

I've taken a full VagCom log - attached.

 

The important part is here (I feel) : -

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Friday,17,February,2017,11:43:21:44701
VCDS Version: Release 17.1.3 (x64) Running on Windows 7 x64
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                Address 10: Park/Steer Assist       Labels: 5J0-919-475.clb
Control Module Part Number: 5J0 919 475 A    HW: 5J0 919 475 A
  Component and/or Version: PARKHILFE 4K  H11 0005
           Software Coding: 31800E
            Work Shop Code: WSC 06225 439 107854
              ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14SKxxx0000 001001 (SK35)
                       ROD: EV_EPHVA14SKxxx0000.rod
                      VCID: [snip] -8066
1 Fault Found:

12583424 - Powertrain Databus 
          U0002 00 [009] - No Communications
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 185

 

 

VagCom can talk to the OPS module, but the OPS module cannot talk to the Powertrain CAN bus....

 

I see similar errors in the Radio:-

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1Z0 035 156 F    HW: 1Z0 035 156 F
   Component: BOLERO        010 0061  
   Revision: 0A001001    Serial number: SKZ1Z3M0103314
   Coding: 0A0002000101
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00075
   VCID: [snip]-8060

3 Faults Found:
00857 - CD Changer Unit (R41) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 154
                    Mileage: 79413 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2011.07.10
                    Time: 00:18:22

01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 154
                    Mileage: 79413 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2011.07.10
                    Time: 00:18:22

01327 - Control Module for Parking Aid (J446) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 154
                    Mileage: 79413 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2011.07.10
                    Time: 00:18:22

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 - the first 2 errors have been there since I owned the car. I've not managed to clear them. They are not new since I added the OPS.

 

and CAN bus controller:-

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 C    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway H37 0614  
   Revision:   H37       Serial number: 080211F1002089
   Coding: 352303
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00085
   VCID: [snip]-8064

1 Fault Found:
03075 - Parallel Parking Assistance Control Module (J791) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 154
                    Mileage: 79413 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2011.07.10
                    Time: 00:05:42

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So, http://www.cars-equipment.com/www/en/shop/park-assistent-sets-kits-4/oem-rear-parktronic-for-skoda-octavia/ say's the wires are:-

Brown: GND
White with purple strip: +12V
White with brown strip: CAN low (directly to can gateway) - connect directly to (orange with brown strip). 
White with black strip: CAN high (directly to can gateway) - connect directly to (orange with black strip).

But what I have in the kit doesn't match the description, so I pinged them a question but I'm yet to hear back - it's been a week.

The kit has:-

Brown - with crimped ring = Ground

Black = switched +12v ?

orange/brown = CAN - connect to orange/brown

orange/black = CAN - connect to orange/black

 - I've made these connections - GND is on the stub by the near side rear light, Control module is located behind the near side rear wheel, speaker is in the passenger 'B' pillar, +12v and CAN+/- trail up the nearside, across the dash and connect by the fuse board - +12 is switched in a blank fuse (8) and CAN+/- connect to orange/brown & orange/black on the DIAG port (hard soldered - no dodgy cable lock connectors).

 

I've been searching the forums but not found the answer.

 

This Instruments module error is an interesting one. If I remove the Park/Steer Assist module from the list of installed modules in the CAN gateway this error goes away....

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 1Z0 920 903 N    HW: 1Z0 920 903 N
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0405  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 410A01
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00085
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04089
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
   VCID: 40A1BD54DB2D5E41A9-8014

1 Fault Found:
12671232 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 154
                    Mileage: 79413 km
                    Date: 2017.02.16
                    Time: 00:14:43

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Any idea what magic runes I need to shake to get this working?

 

Thanks!

Keith

 

 

 

Log-DE11XXX -79410km-49343mi-ops_no_comms.txt

I think you have the wrong coding as you don't have parallel park.

Have you tried clearing all the error codes? You might need to do it in each module

 

edit:

Some codes might also be linked to where you chose to take power from: http://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread.php?2199-Error-in-OPS-still-OPS-works-fine

Edited 17 February, 20179 yr by langers2k

18 hours ago, langers2k said:

Have you tried clearing all the error codes? You might need to do it in each module

 

edit:

Some codes might also be linked to where you chose to take power from: http://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread.php?2199-Error-in-OPS-still-OPS-works-fine

 

Yes,  I've cleared all the errors but they come right back :-(

I've guessed at +12V switched as Hell666 wired theirs to +12V switched 

 

But I'll try +12V permanent for giggles.

 

18 hours ago, tubbytommy said:

I think you have the wrong coding as you don't have parallel park.

Agreed, but I cannot find guides to say what the coding should be - or any check boxes in suggest I have parallel parking (so I can disable it) Other threads suggest that OPS is controller 10, so I'm happy with that.

 

Thanks both.

OPS would work with either, so that is not your problem

 

12v switched is the correct way

 

using a 12v permanent won't make any difference other than give you a possible battery drain.

 

The issue is with either the CAN wiring or the module is not getting power or ground.

Where did you tap into the can wiring? 

 

EDIT

Ignore the question as i just read it above

 

Your issue is with using the CAN wiring on the OBD Port wiring, this is not the correct CAN system even though the wires are the correct colours.

 

You must join on to the Can wiring at the gateway or Xenon controller if you have them

 

Gateway pin 

CAN High goes to T20 /  Pin 16
CAN Low goes to T20 / Pin 6

Edited 19 February, 20179 yr by Eddie-NL
wanted to add more info

1 hour ago, Eddie-NL said:

Your issue is with using the CAN wiring on the OBD Port wiring, this is not the correct CAN system even though the wires are the correct colours.

You must join on to the Can wiring at the gateway or Xenon controller if you have them

 

Gateway pin 

CAN High goes to T16 Pin 6
CAN Low goes to T16 Pin 15

 

Wonderful. That's just the confirmation I needed. Guess what I'll be doing Tomorrow/Sunday ;-)

Thanks.

21 hours ago, Eddie-NL said:

Gateway pin 

CAN High goes to T16 Pin 6
CAN Low goes to T16 Pin 15

 

Can I just check that's correct?

Gateway pin 

CAN High goes to T16 Pin 6 = orange/brown

CAN Low goes to T16 Pin 15 = orange/green

 

I have orange/brown and orange/black to wire in. Looking at the CAN gateway plug I have:-

CAN High goes to T16 Pin 6 = orange/brown

CAN Low goes to T16 Pin 16 = orange/black

 

Thanks

 

The can wiring should be

 

CAN gateway 

T20 / Pin 6 = CAN Low (orange / brown)

T20 / Pin 16 = CAN High (orange / black)

 

OPS Module

T16 / Pin 15 = CAN low

T16 / Pin 6 = CAN high

 

Join on the wiring near the CAN gateway, leave around 10 cm from the plug

Or if you have Xenons you can join near that module

Success. Just need to put everything/all the trim back together 

 

Thanks for your help.