On 27/11/2017 at 19:59, johnmb said:

YMe , explain DRLs , is that something i need to do 

DRL Daylight Running Light. You don't need to do anything but if you have VCDS you can tweak various settings on the car that are hidden - some are optional extras that you pay for on new build but can enable yourself with VCDS.

 

If you want the "Eyelash" tweak search the Superb forum for VCDS mods

17 hours ago, Gerrycan said:

That would have been very disappointing. What car and engine?

My speedo is about 8% out and it is not a bad idea to check the odometer as well. Usually fairly accurate but I have experienced an individual car that was 5% optimistic.

If your odo is within a reasonable tolerance then the average speed shown for a given trip is usually accurate.

I recently suspected my odo was playing up but it turned out the distance-to-destination signposting on a local highway was way off

 

It was a pretty new immaculate Octavia estate, with 17500 km on the clock, recently serviced apparently, 1.4tsi slightly better than SE spec. on winter tyres. I hired this on my trip to Europe to get a proper assessment over a few days before deciding whether/what to order without a salesman breathing down my neck. Driving light, 2 up with minimal baggage.

 

Considering it was a rental car which has probably been thrashed a bit, it should have been well run in.

 

Initial impressions were good, but as time went by, the compromises started to show.

 

Pluses :

 

Good internal room for rear and front passengers

 

Nice cabin atmosphere despite too much black.

 

It convinced me that front parking sensors were a good idea.

 

Started to grow fond of metallic brown!! 

 

Easy to drive.

 

Minuses:

 

Both me and the wife found the seats became uncomfortable after 2 hours, rear bottom pain.

 

That rear suspension is poor! Hit a bump or pot hole on one side and you really know all about it. Car rear end felt nervous a lot of the time.

 

Just like the mkii Octavia, the 6 speed manual gearbox is chunky-clunky.

 

Despite trying really hard to get the best economy, and minimal stop/start and light traffic almost constant speed. The true mpg returned (not trip computer) was disappointing.

 

It wasn't as quiet and smooth as I was hoping for.

 

Front bumper lower lip is very low, requiring care not to park front up to a kerb, mostly wont go over without scraping underneath or worse.

 

Strangely the tailgate struts seemed very weak, and easy to pull the tailgate down too fast and hard.

 

I'll be trying the 1.5tsi ACT next week and I would really like to test the 1.0 tsi to see if I could live with that and save a couple of grand.

@xman,

My 2014 Australian release mk3 was just the basic model 1.4tsi (Ambition) with one cheap (but very good value) option pack added.

My front seats do not even have lumbar support adjustment (that was a shock) and on my first longish trip I suffered bad lower back pains. I had to use cushions to aid lumbar support until my back got used to the seat. Now I can drive all day without pain. Seats in the mk2 were much better.

 

Obviously the rear suspension issue is likely to follow you across to the 1.0tsi and 1.5tsi tests since they have the same torsion bar rear suspension.

If there are ride differences it is more likely to be attributable to the wheel size, tyre type and pressure set. My next tyres will probably be 17" Michelin Primacy.

I don't have an issue with the rear suspension ride on normal roads but on really bumpy dirt roads it is barely acceptable. My mk2 was much better in the latter environment.

 

I agree that the six speed manual is simply not at nice as I experienced in the 5 speed mk2 but I only have a real issue with the 1st to 2nd gear change which cannot be rushed although I think it improves when I occasionally need to rev out 1st gear, but that is not the way I normally drive.

 

Your actual consumption was well below expectations driving the way you detailed, I would have expected to get the display figures in real life.

One explanation could be that when you collected the hire car the tank was not really full despite showing so on the gauge. I can top my tank and do nearly 200 km before the needle starts to move down off 'Full'. My first half tank is much bigger than my second half tank .

I recently hired a car in the UK and experienced the difference between gauge 'full' and first click 'full' amounted to about 5 pounds worth. So guess how it was returned to the hire company.

 

From what I've recently read in the Rapid section the 1.0tsi does lack apparent low down 'grunt' so requires a few more revs but still achieves approx. 10% better consumption than the previous 1.2tsi.

 

Have fun, I quite enjoy the car selection process, although it 'drives' my wife insane.

 

 

31 minutes ago, Gerrycan said:

@xman,.

 

Your actual consumption was well below expectations driving the way you detailed, I would have expected to get the display figures in real life.

One explanation could be that when you collected the hire car the tank was not really full despite showing so on the gauge. I can top my tank and do nearly 200 km before the needle starts to move down off 'Full'. My first half tank is much bigger than my second half tank .

I recently hired a car in the UK and experienced the difference between gauge 'full' and first click 'full' amounted to about 5 pounds worth. So guess how it was returned to the hire company.

 

 

 

 

When I collected it, even though it looked almost full on the gauge, the trip computer gave the game away and showed some smart alec had done almost 90km since the last fill. So I went to the same pump/station I always go to and it took just over 7.5 litres to 1st click.

Calcs started from there and refill was done at same pump/station.

 

Too many people get carried away with their trip computer figures, on vag models the consumption figures always seem way over optimistic. And even after dieselgate, why am I not surprised?

 

The seat discomfort experienced was bum pain below the coxis. Nothing to do with lumbar support adjustment which it had and seemed to be more of a poking a brick in your back effect.

 

Having said all that, the Octavia is still at the top of the list, but engine and hatch/estate choice still undecided.

 

Because I have so many cars in my care, I'm trying to take a fleet manager approach to selecting this next car. Head, not heart. Its too easy to be wooed or pushed into something you may later regret.

@xman

 

I'd never trust trip figures without testing and I have only owned two VAG vehicles, the mk2 1.9pd was consistently 0.3L/100 optimistic.

The current 1.4tsi mk3 used to be 0.1L/100 pessimistic when new but near 40k km later is now under 0.2L/100 optimistic. I think the variance is probably worse when showing below 4L/100 consumption but I have not seriously been able to test this. I have never been able to complete a whole tank without it at some stage been subjected to my wife's debilitating 2km commutes and/or urban running with full a/c in 39C plus temperatures. Still a consistent 800 to 900 km on a tank is pretty good.

I'm hoping to persuade the wife that we drive to the Australian Eastern States to visit her sister and sneak a 1000+km out of the 50L tank if the driving gods allow.

Unfortunately the 1.5tsi has not been imported into Australia for any VW or Skoda vehicle possibly because most Australians are not consumption conscious, our emissions standards are lax and our fuel currently has high levels of sulphur which it might not be able to cope with.

Spoke with Skoda live chat yesterday, my Octavia 1.5tsi, SE Technology, quartz grey ordered 18th October is now status 20, build week 50

On 29/11/2017 at 17:09, YMe said:

DRL Daylight Running Light. You don't need to do anything but if you have VCDS you can tweak various settings on the car that are hidden - some are optional extras that you pay for on new build but can enable yourself with VCDS.

 

If you want the "Eyelash" tweak search the Superb forum for VCDS mods

OK something to look into then . My beauty has arrived picked it up , and yes what a colour , drives like a dream , get some pictures up soon .  One question on the type of oil to use , drove away and forgot to ask for a spare litre , when i phoned today they said the oil is  5W-40 VW 504 . Now i thought that was an old oil and had read they need the  0W-20 new spec  508/509   Anyone have the right answer .  

My manual has a sticker in talking about Castrol Edge.

 

Can't wait for the pix!!

 

Correction: - it's not a sticker in the manual, it's a cloth label sewn into the inside of the manual folder

Edited 2 December, 20178 yr by YMe
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17 minutes ago, YMe said:

My manual has a sticker in talking about Castrol Edge.

 

Can't wait for the pix!!

 

Correction: - it's not a sticker in the manual, it's a cloth label sewn into the inside of the manual folder

 

17 minutes ago, YMe said:

My manual has a sticker in talking about Castrol Edge.

 

Can't wait for the pix!!

 

Correction: - it's not a sticker in the manual, it's a cloth label sewn into the inside of the manual folder

 

18 minutes ago, YMe said:

My manual has a sticker in talking about Castrol Edge.

 

Can't wait for the pix!!

 

Correction: - it's not a sticker in the manual, it's a cloth label sewn into the inside of the manual folder

 

OK , Just found that shows that ive been reading the manual but not the cover its in , Dealer was wrong said  VW 504 and this is 505 , EXPENSIVE STUFF , by the way you must be not far from christchurch , if so i worked in the BAE Site there back in 2000 for a few years use to stay in a Hotel in Highcliffe  and Muddiford Thanks john 

HeHe. I did only say it once!!

 

Don't forget to update your info on the left.

 

Christchurch, Highcliffe and Muddiford all very close. Place is full of Octavias - mainly Mk I and MKII TDi diesels - nearly all cabs.

Edited 2 December, 20178 yr by YMe
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3 hours ago, johnmb said:

 

 

 

OK , Just found that shows that ive been reading the manual but not the cover its in , Dealer was wrong said  VW 504 and this is 505 , EXPENSIVE STUFF , 

 

The 1.5 tsi can use either vw508 or vw504 for variable interval service regime or vw502 but only for fixed interval service regime.

 

Vw 505 is an old diesel oil standard and not suitable for this engine (unless its also 502 approved)

 

Castrol Edge is a wide range of different oil products including non vag spec products. The "professional ” versions are meant for exclusive dealer/servicing distribution, but are the same as the equivalent non professional versions.

 

I think you'll find it extremely difficult to source any 508 spec oil at the moment as its very new and scarce. Maybe some dealers stock it but its likely to be very expensive. It offers only a very marginal improvement in fuel consumption but likely at the expense of engine protection. Basically its used as factory fill so they can claim 2 or 3 g/km less on the CO2 numbers.

On 02/12/2017 at 23:47, xman said:

 

The 1.5 tsi can use either vw508 or vw504 for variable interval service regime or vw502 but only for fixed interval service regime.

 

Vw 505 is an old diesel oil standard and not suitable for this engine (unless its also 502 approved)

 

Castrol Edge is a wide range of different oil products including non vag spec products. The "professional ” versions are meant for exclusive dealer/servicing distribution, but are the same as the equivalent non professional versions.

 

I think you'll find it extremely difficult to source any 508 spec oil at the moment as its very new and scarce. Maybe some dealers stock it but its likely to be very expensive. It offers only a very marginal improvement in fuel consumption but likely at the expense of engine protection. Basically its used as factory fill so they can claim 2 or 3 g/km less on the CO2 numbers.

 So following up on this responce  , before i buy anything , what are the other 1.5 tsi owners doing about the Oil , did anyone get a free litre from the dealer if so what  type or had any other recomendations . Thanks 

When I get a 1.5 tsi, I'll just buy a 5 litre quantum longlife iii (504/507) can from ebay for £20. VW 504 is perfectly ok for top up or oil changes under either regime.

 

Knowing my dealer, they'll just put in basic Quantum platinum (502) and switch you on to fixed servicing unless you specifically request otherwise.

 

The oil requirements for the 1.5tsi is exactly the same as the recent 1.0tsi and 1.4tsi engines fitted to the octavia 3 so its nothing new.

 

Eventually there will be Quantum longlife IV (508/509) available if you want.

45 minutes ago, xman said:

When I get a 1.5 tsi, I'll just buy a 5 litre quantum longlife iii (504/507) can from ebay for £20. VW 504 is perfectly ok for top up or oil changes under either regime.

 

Knowing my dealer, they'll just put in basic Quantum platinum (502) and switch you on to fixed servicing unless you specifically request otherwise.

 

The oil requirements for the 1.5tsi is exactly the same as the recent 1.0tsi and 1.4tsi engines fitted to the octavia 3 so its nothing new.

 

Eventually there will be Quantum longlife IV (508/509) available if you want.

Will that be 5w-30 or  5w-40 , as i have 5 litres , stil ,l which i used for my  tdi octy as 5w-30

Quantum longlife iii is 5w30 (vw504/507)

 

Quantum Platinum is 5w40 (vw502/505.01)

 

Quantum Platinum Plus is 5w30 (vw502/505.01) - recently introduced

 

On 30/11/2017 at 00:31, Gerrycan said:

@xman

 

I'd never trust trip figures without testing and I have only owned two VAG vehicles, the mk2 1.9pd was consistently 0.3L/100 optimistic.

The current 1.4tsi mk3 used to be 0.1L/100 pessimistic when new but near 40k km later is now under 0.2L/100 optimistic. I think the variance is probably worse when showing below 4L/100 consumption but I have not seriously been able to test this. I have never been able to complete a whole tank without it at some stage been subjected to my wife's debilitating 2km commutes and/or urban running with full a/c in 39C plus temperatures. Still a consistent 800 to 900 km on a tank is pretty good.

I'm hoping to persuade the wife that we drive to the Australian Eastern States to visit her sister and sneak a 1000+km out of the 50L tank if the driving gods allow.

Unfortunately the 1.5tsi has not been imported into Australia for any VW or Skoda vehicle possibly because most Australians are not consumption conscious, our emissions standards are lax and our fuel currently has high levels of sulphur which it might not be able to cope with.

 Just for info , had my 1.5 DSG a week now , done 915 miles made up of mainly motorway and A roads , and a return trip to Devon , filled up a couple of times Total fuel 80 litres , so to my calculations thats  51.2 MPG which is very close to what the actual On board trip computer is showing  . Had the drive in Eco mode and mainly kept to  65 on the main roads , with lots of ACC  .

The first 1000 miles....

 

So last Friday the odometer "clicked" past 1000 miles.  I have to say I am thoroughly enjoying the car.  After a series of diesels it's nice to be back in a petrol, especially on cold winter mornings, the coolant is reaching 90 degrees in about a mile, compared with about 10 miles for my previous Superb.  Last Friday I did a return trip from Suffolk to South West Birmingham and it was comfortable, reasonably quiet (except for the horrendous road surface on the first part of the M6) and the journey back to Suffolk, taken more sedately than the journey going, showed over 56 MPG on the display.

 

Having chosen the interior light pack and sunroof the car is a very pleasant place to be, especially at night!  The sat nav has worked flawlessly and by using both an SD card (audio books) and USB stick (music) I'm not missing the 6 CD changer in my previous car.

 

I'm waiting to see if this is the honeymoon period and the more I drive it I will start to complain about the low speed ride and low frequency cabin boom, but so far I've not noticed either of these issues.

 

This is my 7th Skoda (2 Estelles, a Favourit, 2 Octavias and 2 Superbs) of a total tally of 19 cars in 30+ years of driving so I guess they must be doing something right!

I was initially a bit disappointed with the report of 'only' 56 mpg in easy cruise conditions but then realised the weather is cold and the winter fuels are being distributed so that is going to have a noticeable detrimental effect. Could be 5 mpg or more.

Good to hear the new 1.5tsi engine is performing well. has anyone noticed the two cylinder mode kicking in? I think I read it is supposed to work in light load conditions even over 70mph.

 

Yep, mine often switches to 2 cylinders during a journey. 

 

Did 273 miles on Friday mostly motorway and car was in E7 most of the time with ACC working flat out when not impaired by snow showers. Didn't see the 2 cylinder mode once although this may be due to the very low revs in E7 even when doing close to the legal limit, which wasn't often.

Edited 11 December, 20178 yr by YMe

On 02/12/2017 at 06:30, DaveLees said:

Spoke with Skoda live chat yesterday, my Octavia 1.5tsi, SE Technology, quartz grey ordered 18th October is now status 20, build week 50

Spoke with my dealer today and the car is now built.

Delivery expected to be mid January.

Apparently my car arrived at The Port of Tyne this morning.

 

On 07/11/2017 at 14:38, themanwithnoaim said:

I had a 1.4 TSI Elegance for 3-1/2 years, I'm sure you'll be very happy with it just, gotta learn to put up with the rear torture suspension!!!

Looking at a 1.5tsi Octavia hatch for my next PCH what's wrong with the suspension please?

Edited 24 December, 20178 yr by James777

Torsion bar suspension is considered naff by present day standards and is a bit harsh in estate models. Not too bad in hatchbacks though and is livable with in both. My Octavia 1.5 TSi DSG is as smooth as my first Octavia a 1.9 TDi Ambiente Hatchback from late 2006.

Spoke to my dealer yesterday. My car is now in at UK port so delivery should be mid January.

 

Need to get VT organised.

 

Difficult having to wait !