It was Grosjean. Race control couldn't be arsed.

The pointy German has given me an idea for increasing the entertainment value of GPs.

 

Qualifying takes place as usual. Someone (maybe someone really important, maybe a "celebrity") then makes a draw to decide if we have a normal grid or a "reversed grid". In the event of a "reversed grid", all drivers who've failed to set a time remain in their existing grid slot (so if Max V crashes at the end of FP3 and doesn't get out in Q1, or Roman's engine "James Bonds" again that makes them 19th and/or 20th, if someone makes Q2 and doesn't set a time there they are and stay 15th..., but you don't get to keep 10th by not setting a Q3 time), and we then reverse the remaining drivers so that the fastest time from Q3 goes to the back ahead of anyone who didn't set a Q1 time, and the slowest from Q1 gets pole. After this we apply grid penalties to the reversed grid.

2 minutes ago, KenONeill said:

The pointy German has given me an idea for increasing the entertainment value of GPs.

 

Qualifying takes place as usual. Someone (maybe someone really important, maybe a "celebrity") then makes a draw to decide if we have a normal grid or a "reversed grid". In the event of a "reversed grid", all drivers who've failed to set a time remain in their existing grid slot (so if Max V crashes at the end of FP3 and doesn't get out in Q1, or Roman's engine "James Bonds" again that makes them 19th and/or 20th, if someone makes Q2 and doesn't set a time there they are and stay 15th..., but you don't get to keep 10th by not setting a Q3 time), and we then reverse the remaining drivers so that the fastest time from Q3 goes to the back ahead of anyone who didn't set a Q1 time, and the slowest from Q1 gets pole. After this we apply grid penalties to the reversed grid.

Do you write the clauses in insurance policies? Because that’s so complicated it would take a week to arrange the grid 8-)

8 minutes ago, Jfhuk said:

Do you write the clauses in insurance policies? Because that’s so complicated it would take a week to arrange the grid 8-)

I was worried that I wasn't comprehensive enough! Also, no other class that uses (partially) reversed grids needs more than minutes to produce a reversed grid.

I don't know. Anything artificial just doesn't add to the racing for me.

With the headwind on the back straight yesterday DRS was giving a 30 kph advantage. That just looked stupid since no-one could defend against it and overtaking was too easy.

 

Reversed grids in BTCC are just to stop the punters being bored of seeing the same podium 3 times in one Sunday afternoon, and keep the championship close - F1 doesn't have either of those problems.

Vettel gets 3 grid place penalty for blocking Sainz !

 

Well done Grosjean for 6th on the grid.

 

Dani R says he need MV tow to make up a 10th or so which Max says it was not his turn to give the tow !

 

MotoGP qualifying was great, phenomenally close.  F1 is impressive for its tech and lap times but not a patch on some other motor-sports for hyper close racing IMO.  

Vettel deserved the penalty - he is having a few lapses this season.  Thank God he and Hamilton both have off days, otherwise the others would never get a look in.

 

 

Another massive strategy **** up by Metcedes

Great results for Haas F.I. & Sauber.

New Merc engine has reliability issue at higher temperatures or altitude i wonder. 

Edited 1 July, 20188 yr by lol-lol

Neither failure on the Mercs was engine. 1 x hydraulics and 1x Fuel system.

 

Mind you , last week it was water leak on Perez car. A lot of unreliability coincident with the new engine to be sure.

 

Renault reliability found wanting too. And Honda.

 

Ferrari winning that battle clearly.

 

 

Edited 1 July, 20188 yr by camelspyyder

A water leak could be a fitting between the engine and radiators and not necessarily the engine itself. 

10 hours ago, camelspyyder said:

Neither failure on the Mercs was engine. 1 x hydraulics and 1x Fuel system.

 

Mind you , last week it was water leak on Perez car. A lot of unreliability coincident with the new engine to be sure.

 

Renault reliability found wanting too. And Honda.

 

Ferrari winning that battle clearly.

 

 

 

credit to Ferrari for not telling Kimi to give his place to Seb to give him more points.

Yeah. Strange wasn't it. Maybe the Austrian crowd still remember the race fixing when Rubens let Schuey past out of the last corner.  Or maybe Kimi, who seems to have finally got the sack, just turned his radio off 

I think Ferrari still remember the “Fernando is faster than you” debacle 8-)

4 hours ago, Jfhuk said:

I think Ferrari still remember the “Fernando is faster than you” debacle 8-)

Mate, they still do that to Kimi most times Vettel is behind. The 2004 Austria farce was Ferraris worst ever.

McLaren crisis deepens: Eric Boullier resigns.

 

Is there anybody left at the team who knows anything about F1 racing now?

Fernando?

1 hour ago, camelspyyder said:

McLaren crisis deepens: Eric Boullier resigns.

 

Is there anybody left at the team who knows anything about F1 racing now?

 

Makes you wonder if someone is searching for Ron Dennis’s number 8-)

They've made Gil De Ferran sporting director. I think he had previous F1 experience with the wildly successful Jaguar and Honda works teams 

 

 

Edited 4 July, 20187 yr by camelspyyder

Apologies to Gil de Ferran - he did not work for the riscible  Jaguar Racing outfit.

 

However he was Sporting Director there when Honda did their awful Earth Dream cars in '07 and he quit in July - luckily avoiding the next 18 months of the team's death throes.

Anyway, he has no F1 form at all to speak of as driver or managment.

 

Burned off by Jos Verstappen in a test for Arrows, and 15 years later oversaw Honda's fall.

 

What are McLaren thinking?

 

I thought they hired him to oversee their Indycar attack next year?

McLaren admit current car has less downforce than last years one.   Don't see how booting out the team manger is going to solve that but hey-ho!

 

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/137224/mclaren-admits-it-has-less-downforce-than-last-year

 

This team is in a death spiral.

 

They really should sell up their F1 entry to someone who might make a go of it, and sod off to Indycar.

 

 

 

Edited 5 July, 20187 yr by camelspyyder

Max VerCrashen is back. Wrecked on his first flying lap of FP2. Only beat Grojean to 19th place because Grosjean wrecked in FP1 and its not fixed yet.

 

How we laughed remembering reading Autosport last week - when it suggested both of them had turned their seasons around with their great results in Austria.

 

Vettel looking mighty quick with the new floor on the Ferrari.

 

Edited 6 July, 20187 yr by camelspyyder

2 more crashes for Grosjean during the race. He's so out of a job for next year.

 

Meanwhile at the front... Ferrari punts Mercedes off yet again. Not deliberate.