3 hours ago, camelspyyder said:

It's Friday it's 12 o'clock it's CrasherMax 

 

yet again

Well, Versmasherem is giving the Red Bull boys some overtime.

Finally, in the second turbo era,  where a good number of the cars are fairly equal and we can actually see driver's talent. Now up to Lewis and Seb if they can show they have more talent rather than just a much faster car

 

2nd Practice, 3rd one if a few minutes then Qually........ 

AZERBAIJAN GRAND PRIX - PRACTICE 2

Baku, Azerbaijan

• LEADERBOARD
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• COMMENTARY

POS	Driver	Team	Time	Laps
1	Daniel Ricciardo	Red Bull	1:42.795	35
2	Kimi Raikkonen	Ferrari	0.069s	33
3	Max Verstappen	Red Bull	0.116s	27
4	Valtteri Bottas	Mercedes	0.775s	25
5	Lewis Hamilton	Mercedes	0.808s	31
6	Fernando Alonso	McLaren	0.905s	34
7	Esteban Ocon	Force India	1.019s	30
8	Carlos Sainz	Renault	1.039s	36
9	Kevin Magnussen	Haas	1.182s	29
10	Nico Hulkenberg	Renault	1.296s	33
11	Sebastian Vettel	Ferrari	1.332s	38

Edited 28 April, 20188 yr by lol-lol

Maximising results whilst in the best car is what all champions do. When given the best car those 2 smashed Webber and Rosberg. But real greats can succeed without the best car.  Prost won the 86 title in a car clearly not the best, and Moss came close in 61 in a customer Lotus that was outclassed by half the grid.

 

 

Edited 28 April, 20188 yr by camelspyyder

Cream rises.

FP3 

1 VET

2 HAM

3 ...

29 minutes ago, camelspyyder said:

Cream rises.

FP3 

1 VET

2 HAM

3 ...

 

Don't think so, not judging by the slower times than yesterday in a disrupted session where not everyone got the opportunity for a clean lap. Hopefully will see in Qually soon, hope its close but with a Red Bull victory, again, and lots of other Renault powered cars in the points !

I wonder what the purpose is of the extra paddle present on Vettel's car and not on Raikkonen's?

As I was saying earlier:

Q3

1 VET

2 HAM

3 ...

 

 

Edited 28 April, 20188 yr by camelspyyder

Who would have thought it, Hamilton leads the championship by 4 points. 

Red Bull...oh dear.

um when I watched that moment, twice, I could of sworn someone came back. Put it this way in a split second they went right, then left. The dude fluffed it, but there was two parts to it imho. 

 

Interesting race, absolutely laughed my ass off when GRO broadcast his excuse... classic!

6 minutes ago, ColinD said:

Interesting race, absolutely laughed my ass off when GRO broadcast his excuse... classic!

I thought GRO was unlucky when the wall jumped out in front of him. 

Poor old Seb " How is Bottas in front of me? " Same as when you stole the race from Hamilton under the safety car after eating his dust for the entire race.What goes around comes around. Hamilton stole the race this time. As for Red Bull...Verstappen moved twice and the King of Overtaking invariably carries out long distance outbraking dives so it was no surprise to see them come together.  done Leclerc and unlucky Bottas. 

On 28/04/2018 at 12:45, lol-lol said:

 

Don't think so, not judging by the slower times than yesterday in a disrupted session where not everyone got the opportunity for a clean lap. Hopefully will see in Qually soon, hope its close but with a Red Bull victory, again, and lots of other Renault powered cars in the points !

Most of the Renault runners seemed to throw their cars at the scenery or at each other.

Checo keeps podium.  Correct decision IMO.

15 hours ago, moley said:

Most of the Renault runners seemed to throw their cars at the scenery or at each other.

 

I think Max should get both a race ban for between 1 to 3 races and be fined for the equivalent for the damage on both cars by Red Bull.  Red Bull failing to give team orders cost them dear and they are increasingly looking like a team with a poor future.  I would like to see Andrian Newey off to Renault proper, which has much British content already.

 

Renault engined cars, the 6 of them, have a point total of 126 points compared to 130 for Merecedes engined cars and 137 for Ferrari powered so all fairly equal.  The Hulk and Carlos looked very quick even against the RB early on and the Hulk made a rare error.

 

Lewis looked so surprised to have won when he was expect third at best and good on him for making an early move to comfort VB after the unlucky puncture and perhaps then SV for trading 2nd for 4th. 

 

There was other racing on over the weekend, ie Formula-e and even WCCC and even football to enjoy during the long safety car and dull bits of the F1 race.  Grojean was priceless though I remember Jenson Button do something similar.

Edited 30 April, 20188 yr by lol-lol

On the subject of "maximising opportunity" and "winning in not the best car" Keke Rosburg took the 1982 Drivers' Title with 1 race win. That year 11 different drivers won races, and no-one won more than twice.

2 hours ago, KenONeill said:

On the subject of "maximising opportunity" and "winning in not the best car" Keke Rosburg took the 1982 Drivers' Title with 1 race win. That year 11 different drivers won races, and no-one won more than twice.

 

One of my favourite drivers of all time.   1985 Keke's lap of Silverstone in qually with about 1500 hp or so and an average lap speed of well over 160 mph was something to behold.  

 

Been trying to find a video of it with no joy.  I recall it was as if he was on slippy we ice he had so much power only doing 200 mph for bits of it, all powered by a Honda turbo !

Mad Max wasn't giving his team mate a friendly brake test, was he ?

about 20 manufactures points and championship points lost by red bull this week end,but i do enjoy seeing mad max banging into the other drivers and having accidents, looks like he has changed the course of last year and this years championship but its never his fault of course.

On 4/30/2018 at 13:38, lol-lol said:

 

One of my favourite drivers of all time.   1985 Keke's lap of Silverstone in qually with about 1500 hp or so and an average lap speed of well over 160 mph was something to behold.  

 

Been trying to find a video of it with no joy.  I recall it was as if he was on slippy we ice he had so much power only doing 200 mph for bits of it, all powered by a Honda turbo !

 

...Don't forget he had a slow puncture as well as all the bhp on that 160mph lap!

 

and it was starting to drizzle!!!

 

 

 

Edited 3 May, 20188 yr by camelspyyder

It looks to me like the growing catalogue of mistakes this year is increasing the pressure on Max, and he's started again making the same stupid moves in braking zones that he did as a rookie. Weaving at the braking point will send someone into orbit eventually. Another live TV fatal crash just like the Jeff Krosnoff tragedy can't be allowed to happen.

I agree that it needs clamping down. The FIA should give a short ban to any driver judged to be dangerous like this; they should be banned before they hurt or kill a competitor or worse a spectator or marshal.

 

 

Edited 3 May, 20188 yr by camelspyyder

On 4/30/2018 at 10:57, KenONeill said:

On the subject of "maximising opportunity" and "winning in not the best car" Keke Rosburg took the 1982 Drivers' Title with 1 race win. That year 11 different drivers won races, and no-one won more than twice.

 

It really was a back to the olden days title win by terror that one.

 

The best driver was killed (as was a promising rookie), and his far lesser team mate, who was easily on course to be champion, was maimed terribly and unable to complete the season.

 

It was more like the horror of 1950's or 1960's before the Jackie Stewart safety campaign took place.

 

 

Edited 3 May, 20188 yr by camelspyyder

Im just going to leave this here

 

 

Epic

A question for all the F1  experts on here ,IF YOU were a team owner could You afford to have MAX in YOUR team.........................for me a big NO as he has lost/cost red bull too many points

Hakkinen was blindingly fast, a bit crash prone at Mclaren, even got banned from F1, and had a near fatal crash.

But he matured and became a double champ.

 

Hunt the Shunt - champion later on.

 

Extravagant talent needs time to grow and succeed.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 10 May, 20188 yr by camelspyyder

 

Looked like the Mercedes were totally dominant in FP1.  Red Bulls looked right up there in FP2, KR looked like he had an engine in issue near the end.  Rest of field well behind top 6.........  

 

 

Spanish Grand Prix – Here are the full results from the second free practice session ahead of round five of the Formula One season.

FP2 Results – 2018 Spanish Grand Prix

1. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1:18.259
2. Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing +0.133
3. Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing +0.274
4. Sebastian Vettel Ferrari +0.326
5. Valtteri Bottas Mercedes +0.352
6. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari +0.570
7. Romain Grosjean Haas +1.320
8. Kevin Magnussen Haas +1.384
9. Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren +1.463
10. Sergio Perez Force India +1.703
11. Esteban Ocon Force India +1.765
12. Fernando Alonso McLaren +1.776
13. Nico Hulkenberg Renault +1.924
14. Pierre Gasly Toro Rosso +2.114
15. Marcus Ericsson Sauber +2.242
16. Charles Leclerc Sauber +2.255
17. Carlos Sainz Renault +2.413
18. Brendon Hartley Toro Rosso +3.006
19. Lance Stroll Williams +3.297
20. Sergey Sirotkin Williams +3.801