3 hours ago, Noddy90 said:

Yeah; my understanding is that the 1.4 has the SINGLE mass

 

Does't have your 200+BHP though

Edited 16 February, 20188 yr by bigjohn

It was 152bhp from the factory... 

21 hours ago, bigjohn said:

Probably not helped by the very un-torquey Kia engine, although  a DMF may have helped to reduce the vibratations of a protesting engine.

 

Have you tried the 1.6 CRDi Kia engine. We had a 1.6 TDCi Focus and the Kia engine was way better. We have driven a 1.6 TDi VAG engine and it is probably the worst small diesel I have ever tried. Despite supposedly having more power/torque than the old 1.9 TDi (which we ran for 7 years) it did a magnificent job of hiding the fact.

 

The Kia was more than happy to pull from 1500 rpm with no protest and kept going until 4500 rpm with no serious drop off. All that the non DMF flywheel did was make the gearchange from 1st to 2nd a bit rough. 2nd to 3rd etc were all absolutely fine.

 

Whilst the 1.6 Kia is nowhere near as torquey as the 2.0 TDi (or similar) it is on a different planet to any other small diesel we have driven/owned.

52 minutes ago, skidpan said:

 

Have you tried the 1.6 CRDi Kia engine. We had a 1.6 TDCi Focus and the Kia engine was way better. We have driven a 1.6 TDi VAG engine and it is probably the worst small diesel I have ever tried. Despite supposedly having more power/torque than the old 1.9 TDi (which we ran for 7 years) it did a magnificent job of hiding the fact.

 

The Kia was more than happy to pull from 1500 rpm with no protest and kept going until 4500 rpm with no serious drop off. All that the non DMF flywheel did was make the gearchange from 1st to 2nd a bit rough. 2nd to 3rd etc were all absolutely fine.

 

Whilst the 1.6 Kia is nowhere near as torquey as the 2.0 TDi (or similar) it is on a different planet to any other small diesel we have driven/owned.

 

I've drove a Hyundai i30 a few years ago (circa 2012?) with the 1.6 diesel manual (which I think is more or less the same as the Kia) and the 1.6 petrol torque converter auto ( I nearly bought the petrol auto!)

 

Totally agree re the 1.6 tdi VAG engine. Initially tried it in a Superb II as it was theoretically the same ps as my previous Superb I 1.9pd 100 but in real life it was rather lacking in comparison!  The 2.0 CR was great but I was very surprised at the little 1.4tsi on a test drive - it pulled well , was reasonably economical and was v quiet. Considering it was £5k cheaper (er at the time pre dieselgate!) I decided to buy it!

Edited 16 February, 20188 yr by bigjohn

My (limited) experience of the VAG 1.6 TDI is in my father's '16 Octavia, the 90 bhp Euro 6 version. It's particularly gutless in 1st and 2nd, probably tuned to pull back power in the lower gears to keep NOx under control. An SCR system would do wonders for it I think.

18 minutes ago, bigjohn said:

 

I've drove a Hyundai i30 a few years ago (circa 2012?) with the 1.6 diesel manual (which I think is more or less the same as the Kia) and the 1.6 petrol torque converter auto ( I nearly bought the petrol auto!)

 

Totally agree re the 1.6 tdi VAG engine. Initially tried it in a Superb II as it was theoretically the same ps as my previous Superb I 1.9pd 100 but in real life it was rather lacking in comparison!  The 2.0 CR was great but I was very surprised at the little 1.4tsi on a test drive - it pulled well , was reasonably economical and was v quiet. Considering it was £5k cheaper (er at the time pre dieselgate!) I decided to buy it!

I own both a mk5 golf 1.9tdi PD and a superb II 1.6tdi C.R and they are both very different in their power delivery. The golf feels quicker initially but the power soon drops off. The superb seems to pull more evenly across the whole rev range albeit at not quite a brisk rate overall. It doesn't feel as quick around town but I drive with economy in mind anyway so it feels pretty adequate. The only time I notice the lack of power is uphill... I'll have to stay in gear longer before changing. Both great engines in my opinion, but yeah the 1.6 in the Superb isn't going to break any land speed records!!

Edited 16 February, 20188 yr by Shaunieboy

Sorry Noddy90, rather got off the original subject. Hope the DMF/clutch repairs are proceeding as expected.

 

Commiserations to your wallet 

 

 

All done.  The worst thing is that I haven't got a "better" car for my £962 - all that money has gone in just returning it to normal, exactly as it was 3 weeks ago....

20 hours ago, bigjohn said:

I've drove a Hyundai i30 a few years ago (circa 2012?) with the 1.6 diesel manual (which I think is more or less the same as the Kia) and the 1.6 petrol torque converter auto ( I nearly bought the petrol auto!)

 

Our Ceed was a 2010 car but it was MY 11 with a DPF fitted with the 1.6 CRDi 115 PS and Hyundai did use the same engines but in 110 PS and 125 PS versions (I think). When we swapped it another diesel was off the table since the wife had retired and her mileage had halved. Liked the Ceed so tried a petrol 1.6 manual (133 PS from memory) and it was rubbish compared to the diesel Ceed and totally rubbish compared to the 140 PS Leon I had at the time.

 

The Hyundai diesel you tried must have been a bad one.

 

But did you know that the Ceed had a plastic spring under the throttle pedal that prevented you from getting 100% power unless you gave it a real hard press. An economy devise according to the handbook, thinkl it restricted you to approx 60% opening. That extra press made a huge difference. I suspect this device is also fitted to i30's and being unaware of it you never got full throttle.

Edited 17 February, 20188 yr by skidpan

4 hours ago, skidpan said:

 

But did you know that the Ceed had a plastic spring under the throttle pedal that prevented you from getting 100% power unless you gave it a real hard press. An economy devise according to the handbook, thinkl it restricted you to approx 60% opening. That extra press made a huge difference. I suspect this device is also fitted to i30's and being unaware of it you never got full throttle.

 

Ah - I do now!