The new MOT coming in May 2018 looks like it will be particularly harsh on _fairly_ _new_ diesels.

Anything not meeting emissions on their V5, Euro 5 diesels emitting any smoke at all and anyone (Euro 4/5) whos had a dpf gutted. This is going to cost and/or see a number of relatively new cars scrapped.

Is it possible (for real rather in the fluffy fantasy world of older tdi owners) that the economical, reliable pre-dpf tdi's  (Superb 1's) could become much more valuable when folks realise whats going on with the newer stuff?

Possibly a little bit, but many of the pre-dpf's are getting on a bit now and also I suspect diesels with earlier emission standards won't be welcome soon in some city centres in UK and in Europe.  The 2.0pd "Superb I" was fitted with a DPF and it wasn't a great implementation. 

 

Petrol is not immune either - with a GPF being required as of June for new cars. The reliability of the GPF is yet to be proven but I for one will wait until the technology "matures". 

 

 

Edited 7 March, 20188 yr by bigjohn

Getting banned from big European cities would be bad for such a superb  continental cruiser! That’s not going to happen overnight but could accelerate over the next 2-5 years.

 

 

I've been advised by my local skoda guru that the technical bit of my 1st post needs amended. Nothing to do with Euro 5 or not - sorry! 

 

All cars with a dpf get the new MOT intense scrutiny. For the superb 1's thats not any 1.9tdi's as even the later Euro 4 1.9s did not have a dpf (as they did not need it - good enough on emissions without). The 2.0's do have a dfp though as noted by bigjohn.

Not just DPF's either - Aftermarket HID's fitted in reflector style lamps (in other words, those designed for filament type bulbs - think H4/H7 etc), Reverse lights on post 09 cars, DRL's on 2017 (I think) on cars, brake pad warning lights - quite a few changes. If your car is due an MOT after the May change point, then get it done beforehand - at least you will get 12 months to sort it out.....

On 3/8/2018 at 14:42, octyal said:

Not just DPF's either - Aftermarket HID's fitted in reflector style lamps (in other words, those designed for filament type bulbs - think H4/H7 etc), Reverse lights on post 09 cars, DRL's on 2017 (I think) on cars, brake pad warning lights - quite a few changes. If your car is due an MOT after the May change point, then get it done beforehand - at least you will get 12 months to sort it out.....

 

I thought brake warning lights already were part of the MOT? - however an engine management warning light will now be a fail

Edited 9 March, 20188 yr by bigjohn

Quite a popular mod is allard passthrough pipe (and removal of the EGR). If I understand the new rules correctly - any modifications to the emissions systems are a fail. 

This is going to be interesting. 

On 16/03/2018 at 19:03, bspman said:

Quite a popular mod is allard passthrough pipe (and removal of the EGR). If I understand the new rules correctly - any modifications to the emissions systems are a fail. 

This is going to be interesting. 

 

Thinking about it, a lot more cars will vanish off the road. For a middle aged modern-ish car it soon gets rather expensive (more than a car is worth) to sort out car emissions issues - including sorting out what's causing an engine management light to be illuminated. 

 

Many early car DPF implementations that weren't fantastic new are now getting on a bit which I think is why many have been "deleted":-

• The DPF is attached to the exhaust where after a few years can be difficult to take to bits - so more expensive parts/labour will be needed
• Some including the Superb I 2.0 have a dealer only servicable Eolys bladder (not AdBlue as being phased in with Euro 6)
•  As the engine wears and starts burning more oil the DPF could fill up with ash quicker  
• As the engine wears, during active regens more diesel will drop past the bores rather than making it down the exhaust to the DPF

 

As the OP mentioned this may skew the second hand car market a bit

 

 

Edited 17 March, 20188 yr by bigjohn