Hi,

 

I wonder if you could help me out, as I changed a tire, and I have a wheel locking nut that is different from the other nuts, as a safety feature. Unfortunately I have lost the key and cannot replace the tyre, from where can I find the key that fits the following shape:

 

The car is a Skoda Fabia Combi - MkIII - 2016

 

The part number is  000071597C 

 

Thank you in advance,

Edited 30 May, 20188 yr by mark333

I would hope that as your car is so new, that your dealer could, using their workshop master set, tell you which code that one was and order one in for you, though sometimes things are not that easy.

 

Anyway, when you get this sorted out, RECORD THE CODE somewhere very safe, I'm not a genius but I've been doing that for years - just in case!

You can order them through Skoda but you’ll need the security code of which there are 20 different ones. You’re best just getting them removed and a new set fitted If you search google for local wheel nut removal, it will cost you about £10 a corner. 

A new set of McGard locking wheel nuts is about £35

Thanks will contact the dealer first

Thank you for your help, guys

That is okay, but we really want to hear about results - good results, so get along to your dealer.

 

I might be talking absolute pants, but as there are 20 different codes, normally a supplier could, from a proper - ie "straight on" picture of that security bolt head, confidently work out which adaptor - ie which code you needed, though I'd hope a proper big main dealership's workshop would hold a master set of adaptors as I think that that kit can be bought for use in workshops - for the usual obvious reasons.

Hi @rum4mo will go to the dealership tomorrow and check if they can match it.

If the dealership has a key that fits then get them to remove the locking wheel bolts.

But then replace all four of them with normal wheel bolts only.

You then have nothing to loose/break.

 

You might also want four grey plastic wheel bolt covers for the normal bolts.

The locking wheel bolts on my car were replaced within 24 hours from new.

 

Do you see many cars up on bricks with the wheels missing?

 

Thanks AG Falco

 

You might want to let your insurer know if/when you remove all the security wheel bolts.

 

One other thing, as you currently have a steel wheel on, if you are getting no where with your Skoda or any other friendly VW Group dealership's workshop, maybe buy a new bolt and either get a garage to remove that security bolt, or buy a security bolt removal socket from Halfords/Screwfix/ETC and I think that you will find the security code stamped into the base of that bolt shank, then use that information to look on ebay for a replacement that has that code and the correct length for your car.

Edited 1 June, 20188 yr by rum4mo

Location location location on vehicles with wheels stolen. There are parts of the UK where it is not unusual.  (#Tom Jones.)

Oddly it is often from Car Dealership forecourts that it is common, and just one wheel from a car, but several cars.

 

more common that wheel nut covers get stolen though.

 

I remember a car dealership a few years back that had Gigaro wheels stolen from a few Mk2 vRS Fabia.

It was in Northern Ireland i think.

 

Have a look on youtube with a google of car wheels stolen from a dealership.

An American Dealership features on one vid. EDIT,  lots feature, lots of vehicle done at one time...

 

All four wheels stolen from Audi A1 parked on forecourt of Norwich dealership _ Crime _ Eastern Daily Press.mhtml

Thieves expertly strip car in 'stolen to order' break-in at Middlesbrough dealership off the A66 - Gazette Live.mhtml

Edited 1 June, 20188 yr by Offski

thank you @rum4mo for the idea, as I am getting nowhere with the local Skoda dealership. I just bought the Halfords item you mentioned. Thank you

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Did you put on the spare wheel then lose the security nut socket?

 

Any reason a technician never got the master set out at the dealership you asked at?

Edited 1 June, 20188 yr by Offski

yes

A couple of years ago I had a tyre replaced and the tyre centre lost the locking nut on that wheel (unbelievable). When I enquired at the Skoda dealership they could only supply a set of four locking nuts plus the other wheel bolts totalling 20. The tyre dealership managed to order a set of genuine Skoda locking nuts only totalling 4. 

I think that either you were misinformed by that Skoda dealer - or Skoda are being very stupid - I'm surprised that they did not quote for new bolt covers as well just to complete that lot of parts!

 

Edit:- I can see that once a security bolt is lost then you up against replacing the complete security bolt and key kit, if only for the reason that that should never happen - but losing the security key must be on the cards for happening so making available that single item is desirable.

Edited 7 June, 20187 yr by rum4mo

This might be useful to somebody who has lost their locking wheel bolt key.

 

https://shop.mcgard.de/customer-key/

 

https://www.mcgard.de/en/customer-services/replacement-key.html

 

Thanks AG Falco

AGFalco, the only problem could be that while Mcgard need a long key code, VW Group, in my experience only apply a single letter to their security codes, I have an E, an F and a J.  So it would be helpful if Mcgard could supply security adaptors for VW Group and others original supplied security bolts.

Only 20 variations of the McGard locking nuts so a letter code is more than sufficient. McGard probably give you a long code as it looks like they must be more combinations so more secure with a long number rather than just a letter. 

The previous BMW ones only had 10 variations until they too moved onto the McGard locking wheel nuts. The guy that removed my McGard locking wheel nuts when my key broke told me they were still the best ones for security. He then promptly removed them all with his nut removal tool within 5 minutes without a mark on the wheels. 

7 hours ago, rum4mo said:

I think that either you were misinformed by that Skoda dealer - or Skoda are being very stupid - I'm surprised that they did not quote for new bolt covers as well just to complete that lot of parts!

Why stop there... They could sell you a new set of wheels and tyres for around a grand!

7 hours ago, rum4mo said:

 

 

My daughter had this happen on an old Hyundai Coupe where she had lost the locking key.

 

Cost her £40 to get the locking studs forcibly removed and 4 ordinary studs fitted.

 

Harry

They can identify the key from a good quality photo.

The Mcgard keys break easily but the Mcgard ones are easy to get off.

 

The best ones for security are the Peugeot/Citroen ones.

Until they started making the round pins very brittle around 2007 and only gave you one key.

But they are also the hardest to get off with no key, especially if the mushroom head has been broken off.

They also have the key number on the top of the key. Just the 4 letter/number bit.

 

Most manufactures also only give you one key.

With some manufactures you used get two from new.

 

If someone is going to have a problem removing wheel nuts/bolts most of the time it is the locking one that is the problem.

 

If you have a locking wheel key then find the key number and write it down in the handbook.

 

Thanks AG Falco

 

I have always thought that it would be a good idea to have a spare in the garage, a really clever idea, so far it is still only an idea!

On ‎31‎/‎05‎/‎2018 at 20:14, mark333 said:

Hi @rum4mo will go to the dealership tomorrow and check if they can match it.

 

Mark, have you sorted this out yet, prompted by your problem, I have been taking my own advice and looking for spares, and found this advert for a kit on ebay, now, all my cars have only one letter code on the bolt shank and the adaptor, but most places ask for a three digit code, this genuine ste for sale on ebay shows a picture of the box and converts the three digit code to a single letter.  I've checked using a sample of one, by comparing my 2011 S4 adaptor "pattern" and letter, and that agrees with the letter and number on this listings picture.

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/192558003721?ViewItem=&item=192558003721

Hum, now on a sample of 2 different security wheel bolts, that picture is not showing all the master set adaptors in their correct position, in fact there are some missing completely and some "doubles" in that box or in the group of extras!  So maybe not the best source for converting the single letter code to a 3 digits one.  For what it is worth, all these codes shown are in the range 80? and some similar VW ones I saw advertised were in the range 58? - so I don't really know how you find the correct 3 digits number, but one website I looked at just requested your reg number, so if the original set are still with the car, then that would be good enough.

5 hours ago, rum4mo said:

I have always thought that it would be a good idea to have a spare in the garage, a really clever idea, so far it is still only an idea!

 

If you have a need to use the spare it will be when you are out.

Keep one in the boot where it should be and the other in the glove box, but not together.

 

Thanks AG Falco