just find someone close by with vcds and get it changed(cost probably beer tokens) then you can make the choice/decision - I have the facility on my yeti, rarely use it, however I am based in france and the kph is usefull here!

19 minutes ago, dorsetskodayeti said:

Well thanks for all that, I guess the answer is no it can't easily be done.  Interesting though, we have had Land Rovers for some years and I am on one of their forums.  The help and feedback you get there is much more positive and direct with  less debate about thenfiner points of motoring law and more instruction on on how to fix things and take things apart but perhaps that says something about Land Rover needing more attention.

Of course, there is also the point that even coilies are less configurable in software than Skodas.

Sent from a real computer, using Windows XP, IE8 and Fingers V1.00 and a repeat button...

19 hours ago, mrgf said:

....So being able to switch from one to the other, IS the loophole. If you took the time after digging up regs to suit your argument  and read further then your quoted paragraph 1,  paragraph 2 stated 

 

(2) Paragraph (1) does not apply to—

(a)a vehicle having a maximum speed not exceeding 25 mph;

 

I think I am correct in saying the vehicle in questionDOES have the capability to travel at more them 25MPH? 

 

 

Read paragraph (2) again: it's a double negation so what it actually says is that paragraph (1) does apply if the vehicle has a maximum speed which does exceed 25mph.  So the regulation I quoted is the one which applies to the Yeti (any pretty much any other passenger car which has been sold in the UK since 1984).

 

As for "digging up regs", I would point out that it was you who first said:

 

Quote

If the car is UK spec, it is actually the law you must have BOTH mph, and kph

So I went and looked at the law, and it didn't say that.

 

On 26/06/2018 at 09:23, KenONeill said:

"Maxidot" is a computer program. QED.

 

I referred to the setting in Maxidot.  It allows you to enable and disable a feature.  That's a switch.

its getting a little like 'behind the bike shed at lunchtime it is then'!  ; -D)

6/5 on ~ the field. Open now...

I coded the change on my 2015 Yeti with VCDS and use the digital mph display pretty much all the time.  Go for it!

Edited 27 June, 20188 yr by DGW
Typo.

23 hours ago, dorsetskodayeti said:

Thanks for all the responses, reading between the lines (and all the irrelevant legal and historical stuff) it looks like it can't be changed without finding someone who can make changes to the on board software.

 

There is another way, if you have an Android smartphone.  You can reconfigure the Maxidot to select between mph and kph using the Carista app available from Google Play.  It's all done through easy to use menus and doesn't require any detailed technical knowledge.  (Carista can also customise other functions not normally available through Maxidot, as well as collecting and resetting diagnostic error codes from the ECU.)

 

You also need a bluetooth or wifi ODBII dongle; I use a generic bluetooth one that I bought on Amazon, though it took me two goes to find one that had all the necessary functions for Carista to work properly.  (The ELM 327 Identifier app is handy for finding out which ODB functions are provided by a particular dongle.)  The Carista-branded bluetooth dongle, also available on Amazon, while more expensive than the generic ones is reasonably enough priced if you prefer to be sure from the get-go.

 

You have to pay for the pro version of the Carista app to enable the reconfiguration options.  It is a bit pricey for an app at over £30 per year.  Be sure to diarise cancelling the subscription if you decide you don't need the pro features any more!

Edited 27 June, 20188 yr by ejstubbs

5 hours ago, ejstubbs said:

 

I referred to the setting in Maxidot.  It allows you to enable and disable a feature.  That's a switch.

I'm a software engineer. That makes me a subject expert, and a setting is only a "switch" if it's on a top level button that's available at all times.

14 minutes ago, KenONeill said:

I'm a software engineer. That makes me a subject expert, and a setting is only a "switch" if it's on a top level button that's available at all times.

 

This is getting out of hand.
Does it HAVE to be a switch or can it be CAPABLE?
 

Edited 27 June, 20188 yr by Urrell

I've got some fine hairs here, anyone want to try and split 'em?

The word “pedantic “ was invented on this forum .......some say!

 

Grammar Pedantry Syndrome is a form of OCD in which sufferers need to corect every grammatical error

Tsme  Tsme

 

4 hours ago, Bexhillian said:

Grammar Pedantry Syndrome is a form of OCD in which sufferers need to corect every grammatical error

You missed the full stop.

16 hours ago, Bexhillian said:

Grammar Pedantry Syndrome is a form of OCD in which sufferers need to corect every grammatical error

Fortunately incorrect spelling isn't a breach of correct grammar  

My Grammar died years ago, along with my Granpapy

"Read paragraph (2) again: it's a double negation so what it actually says is that paragraph (1) does apply if the vehicle has a maximum speed which does exceed 25mph.  So the regulation I quoted is the one which applies to the Yeti (any pretty much any other passenger car which has been sold in the UK since 1984)."

 

No it doesn't you silly bunt.

It says paragraph one does not apply to, Then gives a list as to whet it does not apply to. The first of these is vehicles not being able to exceed 25 MPH

This as an addendum, a clause, not a double negative. If you are too blinkered to obtuse to see this, you can go on arguing until you go blue in the face. A double negative will be in the same sentence and say something like " You must be capable of showing both MPH and KPH unless you are not in a vehicle that can't be driven faster then 25MPH

 

You are looking at it totally wrong!

 

As for law, It is in the construction of use regulations, hence it is a requirement. A rule to be followed. It may not actually be law in statute books, where you will be sentanced to prison if you break it but it is still, by design, meant to be a law to be applied and followed. This is why such loopholes exist, because someone tries to confuse the status quo and mislead others into thinking one thing means something else.

 

My original post (Back when I was young) Was correct in pointing out that the vehicle should be able to display MPH and KPH as by U.K. regulations, it is meant to show both. The switch rule applied to later vehicles (Amendment) Is mainly for digital speedo's where displaying both might confuse. The switching is meant to be instantaneous, not press one for a breakdown list, press two to see various options, press three to change from MPH to KPH, press four to retain setting, press five to return to main menu. 

 

Press for MPH, press again for KPH, in toggling formation. That is the spirit of the rule. Just because it can be done a certain way, does not mean that was how the rule was meant to be understood. 

Whilst the OP can do the function and most likely should, it does not mean you are meant to. I can fit HId's or LED's to my car, does not mean I am meant to. Non "E" marked bulbs are, in effect illegal. I could fail an MOT and could get a rectification notice if I get caught. 

Edited 28 June, 20188 yr by mrgf

Buy a car and the previous owner disabled something like the DRL's that the manufacturers had to fit as standard to vehicle with New Type Approval since Feb 2011 but do not actually have to be enabled on UK roads and no law is broken.

If the car leaves the factory without enabled then the Manufacturer & Importer are breaking Laws or Legislation.

 

Buy a car that someone fitted not E Marked tyres to and the first the driver / owner might know is at a MOT  test.

Same with a Speedo, one that is not capable of being set to Miles or Km/h.  People that drive what they get sold might never know what they have or have not.

 

Not that ignorance is a defence, but then if no need to be defending yourself in a court of law or against receiving a NIP you do not need a defence.

So it's clear to me that only pedantic lawyers buy Yetis.  Good job I didn't ask what sort of problems you get with the Haldex unit.

59 minutes ago, dorsetskodayeti said:

So it's clear to me that only pedantic lawyers buy Yetis.  Good job I didn't ask what sort of problems you get with the Haldex unit.

 

Exactly, why use 100 words when 10,000 will do!
Grammatically correct of course.

@dorsetskodayeti - So you don't like the idea that sometimes the best advice is "don't do this because..."

On 6/27/2018 at 13:44, ejstubbs said:

 

There is another way, if you have an Android smartphone.  You can reconfigure the Maxidot to select between mph and kph using the Carista app available from Google Play.  It's all done through easy to use menus and doesn't require any detailed technical knowledge.  (Carista can also customise other functions not normally available through Maxidot, as well as collecting and resetting diagnostic error codes from the ECU.)

 

You also need a bluetooth or wifi ODBII dongle; I use a generic bluetooth one that I bought on Amazon, though it took me two goes to find one that had all the necessary functions for Carista to work properly.  (The ELM 327 Identifier app is handy for finding out which ODB functions are provided by a particular dongle.)  The Carista-branded bluetooth dongle, also available on Amazon, while more expensive than the generic ones is reasonably enough priced if you prefer to be sure from the get-go.

 

You have to pay for the pro version of the Carista app to enable the reconfiguration options.  It is a bit pricey for an app at over £30 per year.  Be sure to diarise cancelling the subscription if you decide you don't need the pro features any more!

 

There is a free one month trial of the Pro features I recall, So the only expense is the OBDII dongle.

 It can be done. Lets all play nicely. 

9 hours ago, dorsetskodayeti said:

So it's clear to me that only pedantic lawyers buy Yetis.  Good job I didn't ask what sort of problems you get with the Haldex unit.

Where would you like us to start as it has been discussed a few times?