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Hi All,

 

We're looking at a 7 seater to replace a Vauxhall Zafira and are thinking of a Kodiaq. The wife likes the high up driving position of the Zafira and moans every time she has to drive my Octavia...

 

We test drove a Kodiaq Sportline at the weekend and my wife loved it, particularly the DSG gearbox. With regards to what we are getting, I quite like the look of the Kodiaq Scout (2.0 TDI 150 PS 4x4 DSG). The minimum options we'd want are Heated Windscreen and steering wheel, colour maxidot (criminal it's not in there as a default!) a towbar, and a spare wheel. I think that a rear view camera could be useful as well as the assistance pack for when we end up on family trips on the motorways. Adding everything up comes in just under £40k, above which you are hit with the extra VED for five years. A dealer we've spoken to suggested looking at the Kodiaq Edition spec given the higher level of base equipment fitted.

 

I'm curious as to what other Briskodians might recommend?

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Was the Dealership able to give you the actual prices of a model you would be ordering now for a factory build and did they say when delivery a first registration might be?

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Just now, Offski said:

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Was the Dealership able to give you the actual prices of a model you would be ordering now for a factory build and did they say when delivery a first registration might be?

I’m looking at a decent % off the RRP. Trying to keep the list price just below £40k. 12-14 weeks from ordering to delivery at the moment, so Nov/Dec.

But do they have right now the RRP of the car you will order. not the MY18 RRP?

 

I do not believe 12-14 weeks to delivery at the moment.  Which Dealers is this say that?

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41 minutes ago, Offski said:

But do they have right now the RRP of the car you will order. not the MY18 RRP?

 

I do not believe 12-14 weeks to delivery at the moment.  Which Dealers is this say that?

It’s Fareham Skoda, but it’s more than one dealer who has quoted that timeframe. Yes, it’s based on the MY18.5 price list. Is the MY19 price list out there? It’s pretty rubbish that the Skoda configurator hasn’t yet been updated. I would assume that if I enter into a contract with the options selected at the price I am happy with, then the car would be built to that spec?

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1 hour ago, Offski said:

Not built and delivered in a 12 to 14 week time, but happy to be proven wrong.

 

They should be telling the spec, and the Co2 g/km,  WLTP figures when taking orders.

MY19 Changes .pdf

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/451121-euro-6d-temp 

 

Note that I've not ordered anything as yet. Have only made initial enquiries. 

 

I refer you back to the start of this thread though for any recommendations?

I bought a Scout with a similar spec to yours, engine and gearbox aside, i.e. heated screen, towbar, colour Maxidot and spare wheel.

 

All in it came to £29,880, more detail here...

 

 

I think you've got most of the essential options included, the assistance options aren't for me. The Kodiaq is big but the Scout gets the front parking sensors as standard, which combined with the rears makes parking a cinch.

 

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Remember that to keep the VED below the threshold, the list price has to be below 40k and it’s calculated based on the list price at the point the car is registered, not when you ordered. So if Skoda put the prices up between you ordering and taking delivery you can get caught out. Worth keeping some headroom on the 40k threshold IMHO. 

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Anyone have any thoughts on Diesel vs Petrol?

I have a 7 seat 2.0TDI SCR 150 PS DSG Alhambra SEAT for doing 630-730 miles range on a tank full. (63 litres) so from 45 mpg minimum on runs.

It does less than 25 miles for each 4.546 litres when used a few miles a day only.

 

Petrol for short and long journeys, and if you are doing lots of miles annually diesel i would say.

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Thanks Offski. I reckon we’re looking at 12-15k as a family bus doing short stuff (10-15 miles) regularly with the occasional 40 mile trip to see the in laws and then longer trips for holidays. I’m concious that this wouldn’t necessarily be great for a Diesel with DPF. The thing which pains me with our current petrol 1.6 Zafira is the mpg which is in the 30-35mpg range compared to my Octavia 2.0 Diesel which is 45-50mpg...

In my experience you won’t be seeing 45mpg on a 15 mile journey in a diesel Kodiaq. 

 

For your annual mileage I suspect a diesel will be more expensive if you factor in initial purchase cost too. 

I do 10k a year in my Kodiaq 190 diesel, primarily short journeys with a mix of longer ones. My last Skoda diesel was the same with even shorter journeys. In 10 years and 120k of driving I have never got a DFP light .. and if you do .. follow the manual to clear it. I have a diesel as I live in the country with fast roads and the easy in gear acceleration makes life easy with a family of five on board. Personal choice. I love the DGS box. I have come from a life time of manual cars. I found I needed to adjust my driving style to suite the box but it is super smooth and effortless. My long terms average is 40mpg. I purchased the car outright and plan to run for 10 years. Same as my last Skoda diesel. Come what may with diesels and the government. It's Euro 6. Can imagine there may be a few city centres that ban diesels in the mid term and no doubt tax and fuel will rise in cost. I would have chosen petrol if the Kodiaq had the VAG mild hybrid system or the 2.0 petrol in 280bhp tune. Too late now .. I have the heated windscreen (awesome) and heated steering wheel which I love but my wife hates. If you have never tried one on a freezing day you will not get how lovely it is. Unless you are my wife and just hate it! I have the colour maxidot. Pleased I have it. I also has the spare wheel. I dislike those foam kits. I want to be able to hop out, change a wheel and get out of trouble. Don't want to be stuck on the hard shoulder of the M3 with 3 kids in the car because the hole in the tyre is too big to plug with foam. I do not have the assistance pack but wish I did. Would take the towbar but was at the 40k limit for tax reasons. I like the rear view camera (gadget) but in reality with reversing sensors and mirrors you have all you need.  That is all I use as the camera does not give me the detail I need to reverse accurately. That said my wife uses the camera wholly to reverse with the occasional mirror glance. Scares the bejesus out of me. Like driving a console game but with your 40 grand car!  I chose the Edition due to spec and price. The Scout was not out at the time. In retrospect I would still choose the Edition as it has more of the kit I want. Again, personal choice. I do however like the Scout with its ruggedness. What about colour? Now there's a debate everyone will have an opinion on :) 

 

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We’ve got two petrol Bears, a 1.4 2 wheel drive that can get up to 46 mpg on long trips and around 30 mpg around town and a 2.0 4x4 which can make 40 mpg on long trips and about 30 mpg around town.

 

The 2.0 has more poke and is great on motorways the 1.4 has been a real surprise and with the exception of out and out fast acceleration is nearly as good as the 2.0. The DSG 7 speed box in the 2.0 is slightly smoother than the 6 speed in the 1.4. The 1.4 Pirelli tyres seem to give a softer ride than the 2.0 Hankook’s.

 

We are very happy with both of them.

 

41 minutes ago, Jfhuk said:

The 1.4 Pirelli tyres seem to give a softer ride than the 2.0 Hankook’s.

 

I got Hankooks on my 1.4. All seems to be a bit random and what they happen to have at the factory at the time, I think.

 

But totally agree with you about the 1.4, it's an awesome engine. I test drove both and decided the 2.0 just wasn't worth the extra expense - especially as it meant 4x4 which I really don't want nor need.

As we do the occasional winter trips to Cornwall and Ireland we chose one 4X4. Haven’t tried it on snow yet, so still waiting to see what it’s like.

Without winter tyres it will be the same as any other car on summer tyres.

4 minutes ago, Jfhuk said:

As we do the occasional winter trips to Cornwall and Ireland we chose one 4X4. Haven’t tried it on snow yet, so still waiting to see what it’s like.

Consider getting some winter tyres, they are more significant than having 4x4 in slippery conditions. We don't worry about taking the 2WD Furby out in the snow. Of course 4x4 and winters is the ultimate. I had the effectiveness of winter rubber demonstrated to me on a frozen lake with a 400+ BHP 4x4.

Been thinking about winter tyres but hard to justify the costs on just one or two trips per year. 

On 23/08/2018 at 19:04, Jfhuk said:

Been thinking about winter tyres but hard to justify the costs on just one or two trips per year. 

Without wanting to sound picky, do you only use your car once or twice between October and March? Remember your summer tyres will last longer because they are sat in the shed unused. My winter tyres for the Superb lasted five winters, and will have saved the cost of one replacement set of summers at least. Yes there was the extra cost of the wheels themselves, but I can re-sell them now and get much of that back.

 

The Superb was also a 4x4 version so in bad weather is unbelievable, but even in just cold / wet weather they help. I was convinced of the benefits by having a 400BHP+ car with 4x4 shown to me on an ice lake. Both our Skodas get winter tyres every year.

On 23/08/2018 at 19:04, Jfhuk said:

Been thinking about winter tyres but hard to justify the costs on just one or two trips per year. 

 

Depending on your mileage, just fit winters all year round.

 

Or fit all-seasons, such as Michelin's CrossClimate (or the many other cheaper alternatives).

 

I've run a separate set of winter wheels and tyres for years on my Superb and have just sold them. I got fed up with swapping them over twice a year. When the current summers are ready for replacement I'll either stick some winters or all-seasons on and leave them on all year.

With little snow in the South East where we live, I’ll probably wait till new tyres are necessary and look at all weathers as replacements.

 

After saying that I can see the worst winter storms coming 8-)

 

 

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Winter tyres are not just for snow. If you regularly drive in temperatures below 7 deg then winter tyres are ideal, but if your down souff maybe you probably don’t experience cold temps much. :)

8 minutes ago, Kenny R said:

but if your down souff maybe you probably don’t experience cold temps much. :)

 

Nah. It's 34degC all year round down here :D.

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