I'm thinking about getting this for tweaking the new car, but I don't know if it's worth it and I'm a little bit puzzled by the credits system off operation. 

 

Can owners of this explain a bit more about it and how it works etc, it's on sale at the moment for just over a £109. 

 

For that you get the easy remove device, activation code, pouch, phone holder and 500 credits. 

A The credits are for when yo want to use the one touch ‘app’ changes (something which I’d not recommend). 

 

I bought the pro version about two years ago. It wasn’t £109, that seems quite expensive. 

 

I’ve not used VCDS but in terms of the way you use both tools to make changes it must be similar as I have used  VCDS instructions in  the past and it all made sense and worked. 

 

In summary. If you’re just wanting it to make a few tweaks and maybe scan for fault codes it’s a worth while buy. If you’re a serious user, then VCDS is still the lead contender. Don’t use the apps, learn to code yourself. It isn’t difficult and there are plenty guides around, some of which I’ve posted myself. That way you can see and be sure what’s being changed. There are more than a few posts flying around where people have used and app to make an adaptation, it’s not been correct for their model year of car and they have error codes coming out their ears. 

Edited 10 January, 20197 yr by SC03OTT

As above, perfect for a few tweaks or fault code reading, but VCDS is still unrivalled overall. Credits aren't needed to do coding or adaptations and this is the best way to do tweaks; i.e. for yourself and not by tapping once on an "app" which does it all for you.

 

I'm sure I bought pro for about £50 also around 2 years ago? Just looking at the site, the dongle + activation is about 65 euros. Anything else is unnecessary in my opinion.

Device is marked up as £34.92 and the pro code as £21.82. that's what I would do. I got it as a pack with 200 credits for £70ish. Still have most of them as I have used the adaptations or long coding.

Another vote for OBD11 here, very easy to use, just make sure you have an Android device.

They are developing for iOS - believe it’s due sometime this year.... From what I’ve read I think one may have to change the actual device to support iPhones so you may want to hold off until they announce more info....

You'll need the dongle + pro activation. Credits are useless because everything can be done via long coding and adaptation (these are enabled by pro activation) by looking at VCDS threads.

 

I've got the dongle and pro activation. Works well, done all the mods that I wanted to do on my car. Had my car serviced by tyre place and done service reset myself, had to use OBD11 to set oil quality to long life.

 

The dongle is a Bluetooth device. Android only, any cheap phone will do the job. For iOS, you'll need a wifi dongle, which they don't make, yet.

As above, just go for the dongle & pro code for £65-70. I used 10 credits when it came just to try it (fan leds in auto) everything else via adaptations and coding. 

No, it's not VCDS, but if like me all you want to do is tweak the car so you can use leds in the lights or get the hidden "virtual surround and sub-woofer" etc. or read faults, it's fine. 

Coding a reversing camera will be next, when it arrives 

I've followed a lot of @SC03OTT and @SashaGrace posts, cheers both  

I have OBDeleven and have used it loads on my Octavia for activating things and making adaptations. It works well for coding and fault reading/finding, making adaptations is more or less just as easy as with VCDS. The only bit I've found so far that would make it harder is it doesn't have the long code helper that VCDS does, so when you go into coding, only some of the bits will have a description by them, and they are submitted by users as far as I am aware, all the others are blank. Following VCDS coding instructions on here means that doesn't make a difference, as as long as it's for your car, the bytes and bits selected will be the same, so it doesn't matter if they are blank. However if you wanted to explore and tweak around and find new stuff, it could be difficult. I haven't found this a problem for what I use it for though. The credit based apps can be quite good, they're just a one-click adaptation that you pay credits for, I've only used one but it worked as it should. It can also run output tests on modules, reset/reboot modules, display live data, read and clear fault codes, and I'm sure a bit more that I haven't found yet! 

 

My honest opinion is it is very good. It isn't a VCDS replacement, and the capability of VCDS is vastly greater than OBDeleven, and if I could afford it I would have VCDS instantly, but for the price this is awesome.

 

£109 seems very expensive though. I paid just short of €65 for OBDeleven device plus Pro pack, that came with 200credits, and a carry pouch as well.

1 hour ago, Cakemonster said:

As above, just go for the dongle & pro code for £65-70. I used 10 credits when it came just to try it (fan leds in auto) everything else via adaptations and coding. 

No, it's not VCDS, but if like me all you want to do is tweak the car so you can use leds in the lights or get the hidden "virtual surround and sub-woofer" etc. or read faults, it's fine. 

Coding a reversing camera will be next, when it arrives 

I've followed a lot of @SC03OTT and @SashaGrace posts, cheers both  

 

What is this hidden "virtual surround and sub-woofer"?? I want it! Where may I find this coding? Please and thank you

8 minutes ago, FluffyEyeball said:

 

What is this hidden "virtual surround and sub-woofer"?? I want it! Where may I find this coding? Please and thank you 

 

Hopefully this links to the correct page - 44

 

 

Edited 11 January, 20197 yr by Cakemonster
Actually starts on page 43

@Cakemonster Thanks!

Still torn between this and VCDS... 

 

VCDS seems very expensive, but can do just about everything, although I'd love it to have an Android version so I can use a tablet rather than a bulky laptop.

 

OBD11 seems to be a right mixed bag, where it can do most things, but you have to go down the credits system to do anything significant.

 

I guess it's you pays your money and makes your choice. 

51 minutes ago, TheWanderer said:

Still torn between this and VCDS... 

 

VCDS seems very expensive, but can do just about everything, although I'd love it to have an Android version so I can use a tablet rather than a bulky laptop.

 

OBD11 seems to be a right mixed bag, where it can do most things, but you have to go down the credits system to do anything significant.

 

I guess it's you pays your money and makes your choice. 

 

I  think to do anything significant with OBD11 you'd be doing it via adaptations or coding anyway, a lot of the one touch apps haven't been updated between model years, download load the app (it's free) and have a look at the Octavia pre and post facelift and there's a lot less currently, cornering fogs for one. 

 

What tweaks did you want to do? 

 

 

Edited 11 January, 20197 yr by Cakemonster
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1 hour ago, TheWanderer said:

 

VCDS seems very expensive, but can do just about everything, although I'd love it to have an Android version so I can use a tablet rather than a bulky laptop.

 

 

VCDS mobile is available

1 hour ago, TheWanderer said:

Still torn between this and VCDS... 

 

VCDS seems very expensive, but can do just about everything, although I'd love it to have an Android version so I can use a tablet rather than a bulky laptop.

 

OBD11 seems to be a right mixed bag, where it can do most things, but you have to go down the credits system to do anything significant.

 

I guess it's you pays your money and makes your choice. 

 

You don’t have to use credits for anything. 

I've never used credits on mine...

 

Rear DRL's

High Beam Assist

Traffic sign recognition

Diff set to "strong"

SS disabled

A load more smaller tweaks 

Credits are easy enough to stack up. I've got over 500+ just by routinely going in every day and claiming bonus credits.

 

That being said, it's earn't it's keep by just living in my glove box until the right moment. I've helped people have broken down, random lights on the dashboard of friends and family members, adaptations etc.

 

Sure I could do it with VCDS (which I also have) but OBDEleven wins hands down in practicality.

2 hours ago, TheWanderer said:

VCDS seems very expensive, but can do just about everything, although I'd love it to have an Android version so I can use a tablet rather than a bulky laptop.

You can use VCDS with a cheap 10" Windows 10 tablet - I use a Chuwi CWI515, which can even dual boot into Windows 10 or Android.

7 hours ago, Cakemonster said:

 

I  think to do anything significant with OBD11 you'd be doing it via adaptations or coding anyway, a lot of the one touch apps haven't been updated between model years, download load the app (it's free) and have a look at the Octavia pre and post facelift and there's a lot less currently, cornering fogs for one. 

 

What tweaks did you want to do? 

 

 

 

I'm not really sure which ones I want to do but things like the noise generator, indicators flash, all relatively easy to do stuff to start with and then maybe some more advanced stuff a bit later on, once I have got the hang of it. 

Can confirm that it worked great with my pre-fl Octavia but FL needed manual coding for the most part.

 

@SashaGrace linked to a document containing all the FL adaptations etc but it's in German :( 

was willst du eigentlich übersetzt haben?

 

A comment about OBD11 and the reason I didn't buy it: It only works with their Bluetooth adapters. I personally prefer Windows and tend to have my laptop with anyway, which is why I went with Carport and an AutoDia cable for around €80. No VIN limitations and from what I can see, it's similar to either VCP or VCDS. 

 

 - Bret

On 11/01/2019 at 18:00, PetrolDave said:

You can use VCDS with a cheap 10" Windows 10 tablet - I use a Chuwi CWI515, which can even dual boot into Windows 10 or Android.

It's not that cheap, it's about 220 euros. Second hand laptops are about that and are real computers with built-in keyboard and real hard drive instead of sdcard type.

I have both OBDeleven and VCDS, and in regards to live data I think VCDS it's way more complete and also to save to log files. Also for long codings and adaptations has much more field definitions accurately defined. The biggest downside of it is that it requires a real computer with Windows, although there are pocket pcs and UMPCs like GPD Pocket, GPD Pocket 2, and others from the same brand that you can carry on the glove box. VCDS mobile has less functions. VCDS is way more expensive than OBDEleven Pro just the wired adapter, and the wireless one even more (for unlimited cars).

 

However, if you plan to work on old cars like year 2000 (vw golf 4 for example), VCDS is mandatory because they have k-line instead of canbus thus OBDEleven doesn't work.

 

The best thing about OBDeleven is that you already have a phone with you (android) and the dongle is really small, is like the smartphone camera, you have it readily available, and the battery usually lasts much longer than a laptop and you have cigarette lighter charger for it. Also if you have some air vent holder like Kenu Airframe+ you can watch the phone's screen more comfortably than messing around with a full notebook wired while you are driving and looking at the laptop sitting in the passenger's seat.

Just seen the OBDeleven app on the iOS AppStore, due to be released 17th June:

 

 

 

Further down in the info it says that Pro functions are under development, including long coding. 

Edited 7 June, 20197 yr by maffyou
Added info.