My 3 month old VRS has developed a buzz in the centre console at 2k RPM, but only when the sound aktor fake noise generator is engaged. Wouldnt be a problem but if Im in comfort mode and switch DSG into sport for an overtake then I have the buzz.

 

Well its been in today and they want to take the whole dashboard out to fix it. Now, Im a bit old school but is that like swapping one problem for a whole bunch of other potential rattles in return? 

 

I can knock the soind generator off completely through OBD I think, or even have it disconnected.

 

I'm thinking of telling them not to do it.

 

Whats the thoughts? Any experiences?

 

 

My 245 does the same, Horrible buzzing sound. The 245 now rides around in " Indiviual Mode " with the engine noise set to off.    Sorted 

 

 

Don't think I'd want the dash removing, especially in a new car.

23 minutes ago, Auric Goldfinger said:

My 245 does the same, Horrible buzzing sound. The 245 now rides around in " Indiviual Mode " with the engine noise set to off.    Sorted 

 

 

Don't think I'd want the dash removing, especially in a new car.

I use comfort and individual (which is all sport bar the sound ), so it wouldnt be a problem but its the invasion when I put the DSG into sport that annoys me!

 

Ive had other feedback so far and its generally 'dont do it'!

 

Thanks!

i wouldnt let them near the dash if its obviously the sound generator.

 

AFAIK it can be accessed by removing the wiper cover from the engine bay, you need to take the wiper arms off. you shouldnt need to go near the dash

Is the sound aktor on the vRS located under the scuttle, between the wipers? 

Have you had had a look under there to see if there's anything which it can be vibrating on the unit.  As above, if you have narrowed down the source to the SA then why does the dash need to come out? (unless Skoda know something they aren't telling you!?)

39 minutes ago, penguin17 said:

Is the sound aktor on the vRS located under the scuttle, between the wipers? 

AFAIK yes, it can be physically disconnected from there

Edited 5 April, 20197 yr by JohnnyType2

1 hour ago, JohnnyType2 said:

i wouldnt let them near the dash if its obviously the sound generator.

 

AFAIK it can be accessed by removing the wiper cover from the engine bay, you need to take the wiper arms off. you shouldnt need to go near the dash

Apparently the generator is fine but theres something under the centre speaker that its affecting. Thanks for that though.

 

Ive told them no anyway, they are happy with that. The cars going back in for a priblem with the drivers seat but for now Ive just disabled it with OBD11

 

Thanks for the info guys have a great weekend

My 'old' 220 is exactly the same.  Drove me nuts.  Turned it down to 30% - problem solved.

 

Gaz

Yeah mine the same too. Between 1500-2000rpm the dash rattle is clearly there but like everyone else says only in sport. Dsg in sport makes no difference to dsg in normal or eco. 

 

I too have mine in individual 90% of the time with the sound set to eco and the steering in normal. 

 

I did have a rattle in the drivers door which turned out to be the window switches. They were changed under warranty

Edited 5 April, 20197 yr by JamiePvrs

Sound aktor fake noise generator?

 

Its not April 1st so it must be real, is it something they fit to make artificial buzzing and rattling noises to make the car more appealing to drivers used to the British Motor Industry offerings?

 

Seriously what is the thing and why is it fitted?

Edited 5 April, 20197 yr by J.R.

46 minutes ago, J.R. said:

Sound aktor fake noise generator?

 

Its not April 1st so it must be real, is it something they fit to make artificial buzzing and rattling noises to make the car more appealing to drivers used to the British Motor Industry offerings?

 

Seriously what is the thing and why is it fitted?

 

My Mk2 Octavia has no rattles at 7 years old and 40k miles but the Mk3 had a dash and a door rattle on poor roads. I put most of it down to the harsh ride on 17's.

 

My 5 year old British Motor industry car (Made on an American Platform, owned by Indian's with an engine co developed with the French and a German gearbox) has no rattles and rides on 19's.

 

The soundaktor is meant to add some engine tone/excitement to the sound of 4 cylinder engines with exhaust notes deadened by emissions kit and turbos.

 

Lee

Edited 5 April, 20197 yr by logiclee

58 minutes ago, J.R. said:

Sound aktor fake noise generator?

 

Its not April 1st so it must be real, is it something they fit to make artificial buzzing and rattling noises to make the car more appealing to drivers used to the British Motor Industry offerings?

 

Seriously what is the thing and why is it fitted?

Yeah as above, it buzzes against some part of the car to make a fake engine noise. Its not too bad but it seems like it causes more trouble than its worth.

 

When Indrive in comfort mode (DCC) the dsg is in D, when I pull the lever back put it in S it starts up our rattly friend. Wont be anymore mind!

So 100 years of engine mount design and technology to reduce NVH to a minimum and todays consumer demands something to rattle the monocoque to resemble an unrefined and badly isolated engine?

 

Why not just start with one in the first place?

11 minutes ago, J.R. said:

So 100 years of engine mount design and technology to reduce NVH to a minimum and todays consumer demands something to rattle the monocoque to resemble an unrefined and badly isolated engine?

 

Why not just start with one in the first place?

 

Or go down the BMW route and play some throaty engine noise through the speakers. 

 

And yes, even in the M Cars.

 

Just google sound symposer.

 

Lee

Edited 5 April, 20197 yr by logiclee

Had the same issue but was able to take the plug off the box without removing the wipers, cost me a few cuts to the hand but more than worth it.

15 hours ago, J.R. said:

So 100 years of engine mount design and technology to reduce NVH to a minimum and todays consumer demands something to rattle the monocoque to resemble an unrefined and badly isolated engine?

 

Why not just start with one in the first place?

Not neccesarily the consumer, tye designers decided it. Sadly don't get a say in everything. However no regrets from me Ive turned it off. 

 

4 hours ago, Saints92 said:

Had the same issue but was able to take the plug off the box without removing the wipers, cost me a few cuts to the hand but more than worth it.

 

Cost me about 5 clicks on the phone instead 

2 hours ago, ExSEAT said:

 

Cost me about 5 clicks on the phone instead 

 

I'd been driving with it for an hour and just completely lost the head 

37 minutes ago, Saints92 said:

 

I'd been driving with it for an hour and just completely lost the head 

Love it, well played!

Can't say I understand this - it sounds like the OP is just pulling back on the gearstick to put the DSG into sport? That doesn't change anything to do with the sound generator as it's not putting the car into VRS sport mode it's just putting the DSG in sports mode.

2 hours ago, timmys said:

Can't say I understand this - it sounds like the OP is just pulling back on the gearstick to put the DSG into sport? That doesn't change anything to do with the sound generator as it's not putting the car into VRS sport mode it's just putting the DSG in sports 

You do reaalise theres different levels of sound generation across each mode dont you? You think Im making this up? I can assure you that putting the dsg into sports mode in both comfort or normal mode brings on the sound generator. Or at least ot used to. 

 

Perhaps this entire thread is part of my imagination? 

11 minutes ago, ExSEAT said:

You do reaalise theres different levels of sound generation across each mode dont you? You think Im making this up? I can assure you that putting the dsg into sports mode in both comfort or normal mode brings on the sound generator. Or at least ot used to. 

 

Perhaps this entire thread is part of my imagination? 

 

OK we're talking about two separate things;

1) The modes selectable via the VRS button, which as you say, alter the sound generation (as well as other things such as DSG mode obviously).

2) Shifting the DSG gearbox into sport mode by pulling back on the stick - which won't do a thing to the sound generator.

 

You are obviously talking about (1), but I assumed you were talking about (2) as you said "switch DSG into sport for an overtake". I couldn't imagine you were fiddling around with the VRS button to prepare to overtake, rather than just pulling back on the gearstick, but perhaps you do do that 

Edited 6 April, 20197 yr by timmys

8 minutes ago, timmys said:

 

OK we're talking about two separate things;

1) The modes selectable via the VRS button, which as you say, alter the sound generation (as well as other things such as DSG mode obviously).

2) Shifting the DSG gearbox into sport mode by pulling back on the stick - which won't do a thing to the sound generator.

 

You are obviously talking about (1), but I assumed you were talking about (2) as you said "switch DSG into sport for an overtake". I couldn't imagine you were fiddling around with the VRS button to prepare to overtake, rather than just pulling back on the gearstick, but perhaps you do do that 

No. Please stop assuming. I know how to drive the car. I know how the car operates. I know how to overtake. I have no idea if you are on the wind up or what here.

 

I know moving the dsg gear stick backwards engages dsg sport mode. Thanks for reaffirmning that for me. 

 

In MY car (I dont know about yours so I wont assume) when I pull the gear stick back in comfort mode (I have DCC) the sound changes because the DSG is now in sport mode, the car remains essentially in comfort but with the intrusion of the fake noise.

 

When the car is in sport mode it makes the noise also. I wouldnt be pressing the button to engage this when I was overtaking. Again, thanks.

 

Both of those things are true on my car. Other wise, since I dont use sport mode I wouldnt have noticed it.

 

Now it doesnt do it at all. 

 

All is well.

On 05/04/2019 at 19:35, J.R. said:

Sound aktor fake noise generator?

 

Its not April 1st so it must be real, is it something they fit to make artificial buzzing and rattling noises to make the car more appealing to drivers used to the British Motor Industry offerings?

 

Seriously what is the thing and why is it fitted?

loads of marques pipe fake exhaust noise through the speakers into the cabin. BTW the British motor industry died about 30 years ago.

Edited 7 April, 20197 yr by JohnnyType2

On 07/04/2019 at 03:02, JohnnyType2 said:

loads of marques pipe fake exhaust noise through the speakers into the cabin. BTW the British motor industry died about 30 years ago.

 

Renault Zoe has an App that allows you to play any car sound as you press the accelerator

 

I am sure I saw one for Skoda's too using the telematics app/box. Why, oh why...

14 hours ago, gRoberts said:

Renault Zoe has an App that allows you to play any car sound as you press the accelerator

 

I am sure I saw one for Skoda's too using the telematics app/box. Why, oh why...

When I worked at an automotive consultancy my company car had a prototype system fitted that allowed you to choose what engine sound played through the car speakers (depending on throttle position and engine speed) - around town most people chose to hear a V8 but on the open road most people chose an air-cooled flat 6.

 

Car enthusiasts just like the sound of a 6 or 8 cylinder engine more than an inline 4