Howdy folks suit a quick update .

I have joined the ev ranks,was idily exploring electric cars drove a few liked em.  I then discovered that Renault Ireland were doing 5Yrs 0% HP on the Zoë ahead of the inement launch of the new model .

After much exploring and bartering found a "demo" with 18 km on the clock and 2k off ,dynamique nav aka mid spec model and scored a fine trade in allowance for my cactus the rest as they say is history.

So to the car itself,drives nicely and has standard electric car refinement and frankly excellent ride quality for a small car.

Interior room is definitely on a par with a slightly bigger hatchback and is very airy inside.It reliably does 280 km to a charge on b roads,eco mode on and zero sympathy driving style,only done the one motorway tip thus far 200km 4 up c/c set to 110kph.have it 9 days 1300km up now.

It only charges on AC but any AC charger

2hrs 20-95% on 22kw  public charger,

Same at home on 7kw wallbox 6hrs.

Bottom line for me is when the numbers tally the Octavia is gonna be replaced with a milk float also,and I'll keep my old range rover for towing the boat/snow/building/trailering nuclear winter .

Think it's safe to say I'm a total convert.

27 minutes ago, 181ce said:

Howdy folks suit a quick update .

I have joined the ev ranks,was idily exploring electric cars drove a few liked em.  I then discovered that Renault Ireland were doing 5Yrs 0% HP on the Zoë ahead of the inement launch of the new model .

After much exploring and bartering found a "demo" with 18 km on the clock and 2k off ,dynamique nav aka mid spec model and scored a fine trade in allowance for my cactus the rest as they say is history.

So to the car itself,drives nicely and has standard electric car refinement and frankly excellent ride quality for a small car.

Interior room is definitely on a par with a slightly bigger hatchback and is very airy inside.It reliably does 280 km to a charge on b roads,eco mode on and zero sympathy driving style,only done the one motorway tip thus far 200km 4 up c/c set to 110kph.have it 9 days 1300km up now.

It only charges on AC but any AC charger

2hrs 20-95% on 22kw  public charger,

Same at home on 7kw wallbox 6hrs.

Bottom line for me is when the numbers tally the Octavia is gonna be replaced with a milk float also,and I'll keep my old range rover for towing the boat/snow/building/trailering nuclear winter .

Think it's safe to say I'm a total convert.

How much does it cost to charge overnight at home down in Cork and do you have to lease the batteries?

36 minutes ago, 181ce said:

Howdy folks suit a quick update .

I have joined the ev ranks,was idily exploring electric cars drove a few liked em.  I then discovered that Renault Ireland were doing 5Yrs 0% HP on the Zoë ahead of the inement launch of the new model .

After much exploring and bartering found a "demo" with 18 km on the clock and 2k off ,dynamique nav aka mid spec model and scored a fine trade in allowance for my cactus the rest as they say is history.

So to the car itself,drives nicely and has standard electric car refinement and frankly excellent ride quality for a small car.

Interior room is definitely on a par with a slightly bigger hatchback and is very airy inside.It reliably does 280 km to a charge on b roads,eco mode on and zero sympathy driving style,only done the one motorway tip thus far 200km 4 up c/c set to 110kph.have it 9 days 1300km up now.

It only charges on AC but any AC charger

2hrs 20-95% on 22kw  public charger,

Same at home on 7kw wallbox 6hrs.

Bottom line for me is when the numbers tally the Octavia is gonna be replaced with a milk float also,and I'll keep my old range rover for towing the boat/snow/building/trailering nuclear winter .

Think it's safe to say I'm a total convert.

 

Well done, exactly what I have been looking at.

 

We also have the offer of the 5 years 0%, no deposit.   I think one might be able to get the £3k scrappage as well as I have the spark that can only be worth a £1k or less.

 

As Moley as a tough choice between buying the battery outright on the 0% or going for the rental which I think only works out if one is doing decent mileage ie over 10k a year and going for the unlimited rental "deal".

 

I have not seen bad reports that the Renault Zoe ZE40 (41 kWh) hour battery is losing charge capacity over the years but then it has only been out for a couple years as would be worried to see poor year on year performance as reported on the Nissan LEAF batteries, particularly the 30 kWh ones that did seem to go below the 75% of new capacity after a few years.

 

New Zoe S looks a good spec but as I often do 200 km journeys and then may only be at an office for a few hours and then would drive 200 kms home I need either 300-400 km range or good charging to add 50% charge in that time.  My Heathrow office has ten chargers but they are only 3 Kw !   Odd since we install hundreds of chargers around London and they are 22 kWh ones !

 

Hope the uprated Zoe (with DC charging) will be at Geneva and for sale later in the year but UK needs to stay in the EU or UK to choice zero duty on EVs to allow the Zoe to be imported at about current landed cost.   LEAFs made in England maybe cheaper if they have trouble selling them on to Europe with 10% duty if No Deal so Nissan may have to try to sell more to UK I hope.  

 

Seen a couple of Zoe on the M40 motorway doing quite well but at there best in urban and A and B roads I would expect.  Enjoy and give us updates for range at different temperatures etc.

So guys to answer queries

Full charge at home on night saver rate approx 3.60euro,currently 7.50 cause im still waiting on the esb to change out my meter ,free to go on night saver btw even with the meter change.

Battery rental is history in Ireland you can only buy the car outright.

200k easy in this weather,winter may require s good shot of care 2hrs on 22kw charger near as dammit a full charge.

Unsure about the UK warranty but here it's 4years/200k first 2 years unlimited mileage.

Battery 8 years 66% treshold for replacement.

Have an Renault internal memo somewhere re battery degradation

It's absolutely minimal I'm pleased to say.

I'll try n dig it out.

P.S. what I'm saving on fuel between the departed cactus which damn near made diesel,and petrol for the Octavia given the Zoë has become the hack is damn near paying for said Octavia.

P.P.S.There no getting away form the comparative high new cost of evs but I'm here for 5years by then either they're the new normal with corresponding better resale of I've depreciated to near mount but offset a loaf of that in running cost savings,I personally believe it's a win /win.

 

 

 

Edited 14 April, 20197 yr by 181ce
Forgot a bit

2 hours ago, 181ce said:

Howdy folks suit a quick update .

I have joined the ev ranks,was idily exploring electric cars drove a few liked em.  I then discovered that Renault Ireland were doing 5Yrs 0% HP on the Zoë ahead of the inement launch of the new model .

After much exploring and bartering found a "demo" with 18 km on the clock and 2k off ,dynamique nav aka mid spec model and scored a fine trade in allowance for my cactus the rest as they say is history.

So to the car itself,drives nicely and has standard electric car refinement and frankly excellent ride quality for a small car.

Interior room is definitely on a par with a slightly bigger hatchback and is very airy inside.It reliably does 280 km to a charge on b roads,eco mode on and zero sympathy driving style,only done the one motorway tip thus far 200km 4 up c/c set to 110kph.have it 9 days 1300km up now.

It only charges on AC but any AC charger

2hrs 20-95% on 22kw  public charger,

Same at home on 7kw wallbox 6hrs.

Bottom line for me is when the numbers tally the Octavia is gonna be replaced with a milk float also,and I'll keep my old range rover for towing the boat/snow/building/trailering nuclear winter .

Think it's safe to say I'm a total convert.

Anything is better than a CACK-TUS.

3 hours ago, shyVRS245 said:

Anything is better than a CACK-TUS.

Any you experience of a cactus is what exactly ?

I see you sense of humour remains the same.

How's the BREXIT thing going btw ?

Just a footnote,18k is eighteen km,not 18k miles/kilometres probably unclear the way I wrote it,point is super deals to be done .

13 hours ago, 181ce said:

Howdy folks suit a quick update .

I have joined the ev ranks,was idily exploring electric cars drove a few liked em.  I then discovered that Renault Ireland were doing 5Yrs 0% HP on the Zoë ahead of the inement launch of the new model .

After much exploring and bartering found a "demo" with 18 km on the clock and 2k off ,dynamique nav aka mid spec model and scored a fine trade in allowance for my cactus the rest as they say is history.

So to the car itself,drives nicely and has standard electric car refinement and frankly excellent ride quality for a small car.

Interior room is definitely on a par with a slightly bigger hatchback and is very airy inside.It reliably does 280 km to a charge on b roads,eco mode on and zero sympathy driving style,only done the one motorway tip thus far 200km 4 up c/c set to 110kph.have it 9 days 1300km up now.

It only charges on AC but any AC charger

2hrs 20-95% on 22kw  public charger,

Same at home on 7kw wallbox 6hrs.

Bottom line for me is when the numbers tally the Octavia is gonna be replaced with a milk float also,and I'll keep my old range rover for towing the boat/snow/building/trailering nuclear winter .

Think it's safe to say I'm a total convert.

 

Welcome to the EV club! I reckon the zoe is seriously underrated. The ability to charge at 22kw on slow chargers is very useful 

Congratz, great choice and a great deal you've got.

 

Battery owned Zoe with 5 year 0% HP? Yes please!

Although we are happy with our first-gen Leaf, we would have bought a Zoe if they have a lot of battery owned Zoe's to choose from. 0% 5 year HP would be much better than the PCP I'm currently doing, where I would need to find balloon payment sum from back of the sofa.

16 minutes ago, wyx087 said:

Congratz, great choice and a great deal you've got.

 

Battery owned Zoe with 5 year 0% HP? Yes please!

Although we are happy with our first-gen Leaf, we would have bought a Zoe if they have a lot of battery owned Zoe's to choose from. 0% 5 year HP would be much better than the PCP I'm currently doing, where I would need to find balloon payment sum from back of the sofa.

I know PCP s are very affordable and I think ultimately a good idea but one should always think 6 year loans ,let's be said the majority of people will finance the balloon at the end,or go again with certainty increased payments.

The basic way i look at a PCP deal is.... whats the monthly with the minimum deposit down. Then double it. Thats what it'll really cost, in order to put away enough for the balloon at the end or build up cash stockpile for next deposit after throwing the now old keys at the dealer. Thus.. for my purposes a decent second hander works best. (I recently had a gander at the finance options for a shiny new Octy prior to the sticking with the 2013 mk2 i got, in base spec allowing for the balloon savings it was about €760/month over 3 yrs! Thats a friggin mortgage..)

 

Now.. a 0% hp for a new EV with fairly decent range for swmbo's citigo replacement.. that could be tempting, as the vast majority of her driving local commuting with maybe a fortnightly longer trip that most times would be be doable with 200-300kph range. She does want a Furby next though... so they better stick a massive lump of lithium under the floor of one of them pretty quick!

 

@181ce how did you get on with ESB regarding the wall charger in your house? I know your still waiting for meter swap, but was it hassle getting the rest done? From "company experience" location and thus the local team you get to deal with can be a major factor dealing with them... some areas are nearly passing you out to get stuff done for you, others... continental drift seems like warp speed to them..

 

Edited 19 April, 20197 yr by mac11irl
Extra info

Bought charger and energy meter unit for load balancing over the counter in kellehers electrical Garo glb untethered,downloaded grant form from SEAI ,used a local spark ran cable myself cos I couldn't be looking at conduit,fished it down throught wall cavities 6sq SWA and 2 core mobus. 1300 euro all in 600 back on grant so 700 nett for top drawer relatively future proof unit

21 hours ago, 181ce said:

fished it down throught wall cavities 

Is it permissable to drop cables down cavities in Ireland? 

On 14/04/2019 at 23:49, 181ce said:

Any you experience of a cactus is what exactly ?

I see you sense of humour remains the same.

How's the BREXIT thing going btw ?

 

It keeps getting blocked by anyone with a vested interest. MP's, MEP's, Spain, Ireland, etc. etc.

 

A total joke. 

 

 

On topic question?  As I can see an EV in our household's not too distant future, are Renault batteries better than Nissan (Renault) batteries then?

 

Edited 20 April, 20197 yr by camelspyyder

You wanted to know why I wouldn't recommend or buy a Cactus. Auto Express top 100 cars to own. Guess what came last? Go on you should know because you bought one. Yes you are correct. Finishing last 100 out of 100 was the Citreon Cactus (or CACK 2 OWN).

20 minutes ago, shyVRS245 said:

You wanted to know why I wouldn't recommend or buy a Cactus. Auto Express top 100 cars to own. Guess what came last? Go on you should know because you bought one. Yes you are correct. Finishing last 100 out of 100 was the Citreon Cactus (or CACK 2 OWN).

Ah yes here we go then

1 headlight bulb

1 exterior tempered probe under warranty

6 tires 

Full of character and likeable

You should really try to be less twisted 

 

 

 

40 minutes ago, camelspyyder said:

 

It keeps getting blocked by anyone with a vested interest. MP's, MEP's, Spain, Ireland, etc. etc.

 

A total joke. 

 

 

On topic question?  As I can see an EV in our household's not too distant future, are Renault batteries better than Nissan (Renault) batteries then?

 

Just to point out I firmly believe Brexit is the most retarded idea ever since putting hydrogen in airships.

Batteries are made by the same handful of manufacturers where they differ is in the sophistication of the battery heating/ cooling /management, Renault's system is streets ahead of Nissan's,even in th new 40kwh leaf.

I expect shyvrs will be along any minute to call Renault's ****.

 

 

1 hour ago, moley said:

Is it permissable to drop cables down cavities in Ireland? 

Yep can't see why it wouldn't be legal anywhere tbh, remember it's armoured cable .

1 hour ago, 181ce said:

Just to point out I firmly believe Brexit is the most retarded idea ever since putting hydrogen in airships.

Batteries are made by the same handful of manufacturers where they differ is in the sophistication of the battery heating/ cooling /management, Renault's system is streets ahead of Nissan's,even in th new 40kwh leaf.

I expect shyvrs will be along any minute to call Renault's ****.

 

 

 

Why aren't Renault-Nissan selling the same stuff, being the same company in effect?

2 hours ago, camelspyyder said:

 

Why aren't Renault-Nissan selling the same stuff, being the same company in effect?

Office politics ?

I dunno

Bit like Audi vw Skoda seat innit?

12 hours ago, 181ce said:

Yep can't see why it wouldn't be legal anywhere tbh, remember it's armoured cable .

The problem with dropping cables in the cavity is that the cavity can be breached and damp from the outer skin can be transferred to the inner skin and damp patches could appear. 

I wonder if Dacia will bring out a cut-price Zoe? 

 

3 hours ago, moley said:

The problem with dropping cables in the cavity is that the cavity can be breached and damp from the outer skin can be transferred to the inner skin and damp patches could appear. 

Yes I can see that might be a potential issue,but a long shot to be fair,and just to add another layer of  issues my house is timber frame even more obstacles in the way.     

2 hours ago, edbostan said:

I wonder if Dacia will bring out a cut-price Zoe? 

 

Electric duster in the works

On 21/04/2019 at 09:38, edbostan said:

I wonder if Dacia will bring out a cut-price Zoe? 

 

Perhaps use the Zoe 1production line when Zoe 2 gets going like they did with the Clio 3.