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was thinking of buying a new vrs, but dont want any problems with car theft, house break ins etc

want to make the car are real sleeper  😎

my plans are

change wheels to 17 inch and a bit plainer

paint the calipers grey or standard metal colour

remove vrs badges

seat covers to hide vrs seats

new 1.0 tsi badge on rear

 

exhaust might be a give away though  😅, but maybe people will think it's a zopped up 1.0 tsi

 

what do ya think,

is it possible to pull it off ?

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  • Working in the thin blue line, I cannot recall the last Skoda stolen in my force or the last crime report where a vehicle was taken with a disc lock fitted. The vast majority of vehicles stolen where

  • Sounds like a waste of time to me. 

  • Sounds like you shouldn't buy a Vrs if you are worried that it might get stolen. Changing the appearance will de-value the car in the short term or make it hard to sell because most buyers like the ra

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Sounds like you shouldn't buy a Vrs if you are worried that it might get stolen. Changing the appearance will de-value the car in the short term or make it hard to sell because most buyers like the racy add ons of this model. Just buy something plainer and remap it if you want the sleeper look would be my advice.:whew:

Sounds like a waste of time to me. 

I think it will look like you have a 1.0TSI trying to make it look like a vRS :D

 

AND...as daft as it sounds you'll need to declare all this to the insurance company as you're modifying from standard spec, especially regarding the wheels/tyres.   

 

I wouldn't bother.  If a bunch of scrotes are that interested in your car or stealing a vRS then they'll likely be able to confirm the spec etc, as most desirable (to thieves) cars are stolen to order; most end up in a container at a docks, never to be seen again.  Any 'fast Skoda' is practically invisible anyway, they much prefer an Audi S3 or Golf R.  Though new Ford ST Line cars are pretty hot around me at the moment, seems like a gang have the kit to bypass the keyless 'security', a good few gone in the last month.  

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8 minutes ago, shyVRS245 said:

Sounds like you shouldn't buy a Vrs if you are worried that it might get stolen. Changing the appearance will de-value the car in the short term or make it hard to sell because most buyers like the racy add ons of this model. Just buy something plainer and remap it if you want the sleeper look would be my advice.:whew:

its the 245 engine i want and plan on remapping to over 300, i want the benefits of a vrs bt want the car to be a real sleeper.

all the changes can be put back to normal when its time to sell

5 minutes ago, 310golfr said:

its the 245 engine i want and plan on remapping to over 300, i want the benefits of a vrs bt want the car to be a real sleeper.

all the changes can be put back to normal when its time to sell

Do you even realise that 17" alloys may not clear the large 340mm front discs and calipers or have you researched some that will fit with enough clearance. I know what you are trying to achieve but you must wonder why everyone is saying the same message to you. Why and don't.:nod:

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4 minutes ago, penguin17 said:

I think it will look like you have a 1.0TSI trying to make it look like a vRS :D

 

AND...as daft as it sounds you'll need to declare all this to the insurance company as you're modifying from standard spec, especially regarding the wheels/tyres.   

 

I wouldn't bother.  If a bunch of scrotes are that interested in your car or stealing a vRS then they'll likely be able to confirm the spec etc, as most desirable (to thieves) cars are stolen to order; most end up in a container at a docks, never to be seen again.  Any 'fast Skoda' is practically invisible anyway, they much prefer an Audi S3 or Golf R.  Though new Ford ST Line cars are pretty hot around me at the moment, seems like a gang have the kit to bypass the keyless 'security', a good few gone in the last month.  

that what be good enough for me if people think its a 1.0tsi, exactly what i want  😎

obviously would declare to insurance company

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2 minutes ago, shyVRS245 said:

Do you even realise that 17" alloys may not clear the large 340mm front discs and calipers or have you researched some that will fit with enough clearance. I know what you are trying to achieve but must wonder everyone is saying the same message to you. Why and don't.:nod:

i believe 17 inch will fit ok, 16 inch might be pushing it a bit though  😊

6 minutes ago, shyVRS245 said:

Do you even realise that 17" alloys may not clear the large 340mm front discs and calipers or have you researched some that will fit with enough clearance.

 

!7" wheels will fit, A Cyprus spec Octavia Vrs  ( MKIII ) has 17" Dorado Alloys as standard spec and I ran 17" Dorados on my my 66 plate 230 as winter wheels. They are a tight fit over the calliper but they do fit.

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15 minutes ago, penguin17 said:

I think it will look like you have a 1.0TSI trying to make it look like a vRS :D

 

AND...as daft as it sounds you'll need to declare all this to the insurance company as you're modifying from standard spec, especially regarding the wheels/tyres.   

 

I wouldn't bother.  If a bunch of scrotes are that interested in your car or stealing a vRS then they'll likely be able to confirm the spec etc, as most desirable (to thieves) cars are stolen to order; most end up in a container at a docks, never to be seen again.  Any 'fast Skoda' is practically invisible anyway, they much prefer an Audi S3 or Golf R.  Though new Ford ST Line cars are pretty hot around me at the moment, seems like a gang have the kit to bypass the keyless 'security', a good few gone in the last month.  

they'll only be interested in stealing the car if they think its a vrs, if it passes for a 1.0tsi then there wont be any interest ?

nobody steals 1.0 tsi's do they ?

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5 minutes ago, Auric Goldfinger said:

 

!7" wheels will fit, A Cyprus spec Octavia Vrs  ( MKIII ) has 17" Dorado Alloys as standard spec and I ran 17" Dorados on my my 66 plate 230 as winter wheels. They are a tight fit over the calliper but they do fit.

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not far off a sleeper that, 

just needs a few more alterations here and there, colour helps as well

would'nt work so well on a rallye green  😁

The vRS is about as understated as it gets to start with, they're hardly theft magnets really. 

 

The discerning car thief these days is looking for 4wd, 5dr, 300hp hatchbacks. 

 

Don't worry about a vRS getting nicked, just don't get one with keyless guff, as those are easier to steal than to just walk past. 

What is the deal with Cyprus spec cars?

 

On looking through the documentation I found that mine was bought in Cyprus then registered in the UK, immediately I think but cant recall the detail.

 

Are these cars bought tax free by serving members of the armed forces?

 

What are the general differences in spec compared to UK vehicles?

 

I am asking in case I get caught out one day when ordering parts.

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5 minutes ago, Kenai said:

The vRS is about as understated as it gets to start with, they're hardly theft magnets really. 

 

The discerning car thief these days is looking for 4wd, 5dr, 300hp hatchbacks. 

 

Don't worry about a vRS getting nicked, just don't get one with keyless guff, as those are easier to steal than to just walk past. 

i think the vrs is still a target for thieves though,  thieves know that these engines are the same as vw/audi and they do get stolen, not as much as merc, bmw golf r though.

the vrs challenge comes with keyless as standard, dont know if you can switch it off / code it  out  with vcds,  might be possible

Worried about someone stealing your car, just buy a good quality steering lock, which should deter most thieves. 

28 minutes ago, 310golfr said:

not far off a sleeper that, 

just needs a few more alterations here and there, colour helps as well

would'nt work so well on a rallye green  😁

Meteor will now be known as SLEEPER GREY.:blush

16 minutes ago, Kenai said:

The vRS is about as understated as it gets to start with, they're hardly theft magnets really. 

 

The discerning car thief these days is looking for 4wd, 5dr, 300hp hatchbacks. 

 

Don't worry about a vRS getting nicked, just don't get one with keyless guff, as those are easier to steal than to just walk past. 

At least mine's not KESSY and no 4WD. What a relief I can sleep easier now.:sleepy:

4 minutes ago, roaddetective said:

Worried about someone stealing your car, just buy a good quality steering lock, which should deter most thieves. 

Or remove all 4 wheels every night and leave it on axle stands.:D

Car thieves / toe rags know more about cars and house breaking than any other people anyplace including the Police Officers that specialise in car theft.

They know more than Car Security Experts, sometimes they are Car Security Experts, or were.

14 minutes ago, J.R. said:

What is the deal with Cyprus spec cars?

 

On looking through the documentation I found that mine was bought in Cyprus then registered in the UK, immediately I think but cant recall the detail.

 

Are these cars bought tax free by serving members of the armed forces?

 

What are the general differences in spec compared to UK vehicles?

 

I am asking in case I get caught out one day when ordering parts.

Probably are bought tax free by servicemen. Come to think of it think Indian market cars get delivered on 17" alloys due to the bad roads over there.:nod:

The thieves / spotters that mark up houses to be broken into by a chalk mark ignore houses with a Skoda in the drive.

They know the householder is tight and has not much of value worth taking.

 

Or maybe they know they have lots because they spend wisely on what they drive.   'You decide'. 

 

I would say some 1.0TSI with the Cloak of Invisibility is more desirable to someone wanting a 'daily driver pool car' rather than a get away car where they get a S3 / RS3,

Golf R, Merc AMG etc.

Even @shyVRS245 'hot hatch' would get swerved as they would think lamb dressed as mutton...

 

PS,

The salvage Fabia vRS estate i have bought is getting a non vRS paint colour / pale blue, faded Fabia Scout plastics, 15" Steel rims and a Stage 2 Twincharger Engine, 

or maybe i will play with their minds and put a 1.2 60 ps engine in.

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A steering lock (good quality or not) will be easy enough for a thief to break off.  It's also a huge 'LOOK AT ME' to tell said thief that something might be worth a look.

I think the OP is on to something.  Performance wise the 17s drop very little and add a touch of comfort.  De-badge the rear and add a greenline badge in place of the VRS on the front grille and you have a decent sleeper.  As far as specs on other countries, it's possible that they come with smaller brakes to allow for the smaller wheels.  Maybe a 220 or 230 would be better?  I'm sure there were FL or pre-FL version that had smaller brakes (or not bigger brakes).

So why spend all the cash into 'disguising the car', when it would be more worthwhile implementing better detective / preventative measures for protecting the car itself?

 

I get the OP's reasoning in one respect, but I think there are some major flaws re: devaluation, cost, time, aesthetics etc. - and personally, the cost : benefit ratio would be too poor.

 

As mentioned before, there are both hardware controls (Steering locks etc.) and software (immobilisers and trackers like that supplied by https://www.autowatch.co.uk/) which would essentially delay or prevent thieves from physically taking the car. Fitting motion-detection IP CCTV to where your car is stored is also a detective or deterrent measure (Hive, Nest etc), and will actually assist with post-incident management with the police and insurance in the event it gets nicked.

 

In this economy, spend smartly.

 

Make the car fast and look nice. Protect it with decent kit, and fashion yourself a Thor's hammer from a pickaxe handle, duct tape, and a Nokia 3210 / Lego.

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Lego is also excellent weaponry.

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1 hour ago, SC03OTT said:

Sounds like a waste of time to me. 

Ya won't be saying that if your pride and joy goes walkabout in the middle of the night  😪

Might be wishing you'd turned it into a real sleeper   😁

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18 minutes ago, Ads230 said:

So why spend all the cash into 'disguising the car', when it would be more worthwhile implementing better detective / preventative measures for protecting the car itself?

 

I get the OP's reasoning in one respect, but I think there are some major flaws re: devaluation, cost, time, aesthetics etc. - and personally, the cost : benefit ratio would be too poor.

 

As mentioned before, there are both hardware controls (Steering locks etc.) and software (immobilisers and trackers like that supplied by https://www.autowatch.co.uk/) which would essentially delay or prevent thieves from physically taking the car. Fitting motion-detection IP CCTV to where your car is stored is also a detective or deterrent measure (Hive, Nest etc), and will actually assist with post-incident management with the police and insurance in the event it gets nicked.

 

In this economy, spend smartly.

 

Make the car fast and look nice. Protect it with decent kit, and fashion yourself a Thor's hammer from a pickaxe handle, duct tape, and a Nokia 3210 / Lego.

Thieves dont care about cameras , steering locks etc etc nowadays though.

As for the autowatchghost, a thieve  doesn't  know it's been fitted, so he breaks into your house , finds the keys then  trys to start car. The car doesn't start so maybe he's coming back into the house, who knows.

Now I dont know how I would react, but I would find it hard to just allow them to steal my pride and joy.

As for devaluing  the car, as already  said, it's easy to put back to original  when selling. 

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