Well this was an anti climax... 

6 minutes ago, Swirly182 said:

Well this was an anti climax... 

 

That's what she said 😄

53 minutes ago, 310golfr said:

 

the mid range acceleration on even a standard 184 diesel is better than a 245 petrol and you dont have to rev the guts out it either.

 

 

 

Yet the 245 is one second quicker to 62 mph than the oil burner

8 minutes ago, Auric Goldfinger said:

 

 

Yet the 245 is one second quicker to 62 mph than the oil burner

yes , but acceleration when your already moving is more useful.

how many times would  a quicker 0-60 time be needed ?

 

I know 0–60 times aren't everything but as a baseline measurement of performance:

 

2.0 TDI (150ps) = 8.3s (my current car)

2.0 TDI VRS (184ps) = 7.9s

2.0 TSI VRS (245ps) = 6.6s

 

How close do you think I could get to the TSI with a remap, do you think I could get down to 7.3s?

8 minutes ago, vRSWitter said:

I know 0–60 times aren't everything but as a baseline measurement of performance:

 

2.0 TDI (150ps) = 8.3s (my current car)

2.0 TDI VRS (184ps) = 7.9s

2.0 TSI VRS (245ps) = 6.6s

 

How close do you think I could get to the TSI with a remap, do you think I could get down to 7.3s?

 

Yep I would say that with a decent remap you could easily get down to 7.3 seconds or even less than 7.  I don't really think it's just shear grunt , it's the way the power is distributed.

 

I had a Pre FL 230 Manual which was quick, my now 245 Manual only has 15 bhp more but it's a dam sight quicker than the 230, it's like night and day. 

The Master Tech at my local dealers quoted the 245 has a different turbo, bigger fuel Injectors and a bigger fuel pump, true or not, or even bull sh17e, I don't really know but the 245 gets the power down a lot smoother than the 230. The fancy front diff also helps.

@vRSWitter depends on if it had dsg or your shifting skill.

I would bet a dsg tdi would be a match for a manual 245.  My dsg tdi 150 with a tuning box is close to my mates 184 manual.  Getting a map next week so fully expect it to be quicker. At least in a straight line.

5 minutes ago, MarkyG82 said:

@vRSWitter depends on if it had dsg or your shifting skill.

I would bet a dsg tdi would be a match for a manual 245.  My dsg tdi 150 with a tuning box is close to my mates 184 manual.  Getting a map next week so fully expect it to be quicker. At least in a straight line.

 

It's just my shifting skill I'm afraid ... tbh it feels quicker than 8.3s in standard form, but it's hard to get an accurate timing

when your talking 0-60 times, there gets to a point where the only way to go quicker is to have 4 wheel drive.

 

hence why a golf r is a fair bit quicker than even a remapped gti

Has the OP test driven a 2.0 TSI? It's very smooth and refined even in the VRS. 

Giving up my TDI VRS for a 2.0 TSI but going for the SE-L spec, prefering comfort over handling. Just have to wait for the damn thing to be made ...

8 minutes ago, TDIum said:

Has the OP test driven a 2.0 TSI? It's very smooth and refined even in the VRS. 

Giving up my TDI VRS for a 2.0 TSI but going for the SE-L spec, prefering comfort over handling. Just have to wait for the damn thing to be made ...

 

Nope not driven one yet, Im afraid if I drive one I will want one 😁

Sadly VRS is not available with leather upholstery. 

The newest version of the TSI engine has clever variable valve timing that makes it very economical under low load. 

3 hours ago, vRSWitter said:

Well I decided it wasn't worth it, cost to change + extra fuel + extra tax + extra insurance costs.

Maybe a remap on mine at some point in the future ...

A remap makes a massive difference on that engine.  As standard I think the 184 is pretty poor, I was very underwhelmed; it never feels like it shifts like its stats/spec would suggest.  In many ways I much prefer the 150PS TDI.  

 

I used Revo and was very impressed.  I kept the car for a further 3 years with the remap in place and I didn't have a single issue, not one.  It was a manual too; no clutch slip, nothing.  If I had kept the car longer then I also would have fitted a pedal box too.  I think that would have made it feel more peppy.  

 

In short, I think you'd be happy.  There's also the added bonus of knowing the history of your car. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, vRSWitter said:

Well I decided it wasn't worth it, cost to change + extra fuel + extra tax + extra insurance costs.

Maybe a remap on mine at some point in the future ...

 

Yeah, a remap should get you around 30 ish more horsepower. Will bring you thereabouts close to a VRS tdi stock power.

Looks like I'm gonna get a remap. Any suggestions? Revo, Shark, etc.

Got a Revo authorised dealer near me but its quite a lot of Wonga ...

I've had 2 x Revo maps.  Very happy with both. 

 

That's about the going rate for a remap +/- a few £ (well from the reputable tuners anyway).  

 

Always worth asking the agent if they will charge you to return the car to stock/re-flash etc.  

 

I was also very happy with the Revo stage 1 I had on my 220 vRS.  Stark increase in performance and quite addictive 😎

 

Gaz