The 2019 Election - Done and Overwhelmingly Dusted!!

[Guest BigJase88]

10 minutes ago, Dr Zoidberg said:

Or you can move on to the next couple of years of discussing how the trade negotiations with the EU and US are going, followed by more parliamentary strife when they try to prevent us from dropping back to WTO rules. 
 

Anyone thinking that any election result marks the end of arguments about Brexit is totally deluding themselves. 

Possibly not no. But what would a labour government give us?

 

scottish 2nd independence referendum and another vote on brexit. More dither and delay as my pal boris likes to put it.

 

at least when we get a conservative majority (which will happen) then we can get on with things and the ball might actually start rolling again

[Skoda_newby]

1 hour ago, Lee_Esq said:

Johnson's eleventh-hour blunder

By James Blitz December 11, 2019

Is Boris Johnson’s lack of empathy towards Jack Williment-Barr going to cost him a majority tomorrow? As the Conservatives’ poll lead over Labour appears to narrow, some pollsters are wondering whether the prime minister’s apparent heartlessness over the case of a four-year-old boy lying in Leeds General hospital is losing him votes. To recap: the Conservatives have had a pretty consistent 10 point lead over Labour for much of the campaign. But YouGov’s MRP poll on Tuesday night has suggested that this is starting to tighten. Two weeks ago, the YouGov MRP poll gave the Tories an 11 point lead over Labour which translated into a Commons majority for the Tories of 68. Tuesday’s MRP poll shows that is now down to a nine-point lead that would give Mr Johnson a majority of 28. Marcus Roberts, director of international projects at YouGov, tells me that if the lead narrows by one more percentage point nationally, that would bring the Tory majority down to about 16. If it narrows by two percentage points nationally, that would bring the Tories down to a majority of around four. Why is this lead narrowing? Mr Roberts says two factors will have helped to contribute to the MRP result. “First we are seeing extreme efficiency in tactical voting that is working against the Tories. Voters who don’t want Brexit are working things out for themselves and self sorting.” The second reason is the case of Williment-Barr. On Monday, Mr Johnson refused to look at a photo of the boy who had been forced to lie on a pile of coats in a Leeds hospital because of a lack of beds. The image served to highlight the state of the NHS, one of the few areas on which Labour is seen as somewhat more trusted than the Conservatives. Most of the MRP survey was done before the NHS story broke. But Mr Roberts says: “Boris Johnson’s actions here have done him no favours when it comes to the need to reassure Labour voters in northern marginals to back the Conservatives. Boris was on a mission to reassure Labour voters that it was OK to vote Tory. They may be reluctant to do so when seeing what they feel is his apparent heartlessness.” This has certainly been a bad end to the campaign for Mr Johnson. Not only did he blunder over the boy in Leeds General. He also faced a broadside on TV on Tuesday night from the father of Jack Merritt, who was murdered in the London Bridge terrorist attack last month. He directly criticised the prime minister for treating his son’s death as a political “opportunity”. The election result seems to be close. If we have a hung parliament on Friday, Mr Johnson’s actions over Williment-Barr and Merritt could be judged crucial.

 

The Leeds hospital incident was a farce and had been faked by the Mother. She's the one that needs to be strung up. She took her son off a bed, and placed him on the floor. A nurse who saw the photo said that the O2 mask he had on meant that he should have been propped up. Ergo, he wouldn't have been given the mask if he wasn't in a bed.

 

Next, it's the press and especially the BBC that is perpetuating the pain for Jack Merritt's father. He said he didn't want it politicised, and the press wil not let it go. Do you think we'd see any more of this if the press actually did as the father had asked and stayed away from the man?

 

Honestly, try and think this stuff through.

[Skoda_newby]

30 minutes ago, Dr Zoidberg said:

Or you can move on to the next couple of years of discussing how the trade negotiations with the EU and US are going, followed by more parliamentary strife when they try to prevent us from dropping back to WTO rules. 
 

Anyone thinking that any election result marks the end of arguments about Brexit is totally deluding themselves. 

 

Anyone thinking that a hung parliament is an intelligent move forward is honestly brain dead.

 

Or Lee.

 

Really, go back and look at some of the last few months in Parliament. It's eye-gouging stuff.

[Dr Zoidberg]

5 minutes ago, Skoda_newby said:

 

The Leeds hospital incident was a farce and had been faked by the Mother. She's the one that needs to be strung up. She took her son off a bed, and placed him on the floor. A nurse who saw the photo said that the O2 mask he had on meant that he should have been propped up. Ergo, he wouldn't have been given the mask if he wasn't in a bed.

 

Next, it's the press and especially the BBC that is perpetuating the pain for Jack Merritt's father. He said he didn't want it politicised, and the press wil not let it go. Do you think we'd see any more of this if the press actually did as the father had asked and stayed away from the man?

 

Honestly, try and think this stuff through.

Sorry, but the posts claiming it was fake have been thoroughly debunked. 

https://inews.co.uk/news/leeds-hospital-photo-boy-floor-staged-conspiracy-twitter-fake-good-friend-1337258

https://fullfact.org/online/LGI-photo-boy-facebook/

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/dec/10/woman-says-account-hacked-to-post-fake-story-about-hospital-boy

[@Lee]

Let's Go WT............Oh................
If it comes down to might with no arbiter, guess who's going to be doing the cherry picking.
Might have been better to remain after all.
 

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Two years after starting to block appointments, the United States will finally paralyze the WTO’s Appellate Body, which acts as the supreme court for international trade, as two of three members exit and leave it unable to issue rulings.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-trade-wto-idUSKBN1YE0YE

[@Lee]

15 minutes ago, Dr Zoidberg said:

Sorry, but the posts claiming it was fake have been thoroughly debunked. 

https://inews.co.uk/news/leeds-hospital-photo-boy-floor-staged-conspiracy-twitter-fake-good-friend-1337258

https://fullfact.org/online/LGI-photo-boy-facebook/

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/dec/10/woman-says-account-hacked-to-post-fake-story-about-hospital-boy

There was even a segment on Newnsnight last night about it. Amazing how many people all knew the hospital worker and managed to Tweet/ post the exact same reply.
FAO @Skoda_newby You were played.

 

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[Skoda_newby]

6 minutes ago, Dr Zoidberg said:

Sorry, but the posts claiming it was fake have been thoroughly debunked. 

https://inews.co.uk/news/leeds-hospital-photo-boy-floor-staged-conspiracy-twitter-fake-good-friend-1337258

https://fullfact.org/online/LGI-photo-boy-facebook/

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/dec/10/woman-says-account-hacked-to-post-fake-story-about-hospital-boy

 

Then it is currently the 11th. At the time that Johnson was confronted about this, I would dare say that someone put the word out that it could be fake. Remember, it happened on the 3rd.

[Ootohere]

You can say what you like about someone.

The 'dark forces' / people behind Fake news about genuine things being fake will be revealed soon enough.

 

The editor of the paper that got the genuine story and checked the source before publishing it was on the radio explaining the timeline of it in his paper, then the nationals picking up on it and then the Boris incident then the 'fake' social media stuff being spread.

Edited 11 December, 2019 by Roottootemoot

[shyVRS245]

Latest BBC Poll Tracker has Tories at 43%, Labour on 33% and Lib Dems on 13%.

[shyVRS245]

2 minutes ago, Roottootemoot said:

You can say what you like about someone.

The 'dark forces' / people behind Fake news about genuine things being fake will be revealed soon enough.

There are always those that will think that the results announced on Friday morning are Fake News or somehow influenced by Russia or the USA.

[gadgetman]

56 minutes ago, BigJase88 said:

at least when we get a conservative majority (which will happen) then we can get on with things and the ball might actually start rolling again

You honestly believe Boris won't play everyone again? 

 

Bless

[@Lee]

3 minutes ago, shyVRS245 said:

Latest BBC Poll Tracker has Tories at 43%, Labour on 33% and Lib Dems on 13%.

Latest Torygaff poll.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/12/11/general-election-knife-edge-last-poll-campaign-shows-tory-lead/

[Guest BigJase88]

I predict conservatives will have a big majority and lee and gadgetman will be on facetime together after the announcement comparing brands of tissues for all the tears they are going to shed

[gadgetman]

50 minutes ago, BigJase88 said:

I predict conservatives will have a big majority and lee and gadgetman will be on facetime together after the announcement comparing brands of tissues for all the tears they are going to shed

Guess we'll see Friday morning. 

 

Anything less than 326 and Boris will have wasted time and played you all. 

 

A simple deal like Canada took 7 years.

 

Brexit won't be done for years, and Boris deal has us bailing out the EU and part of the ECJ for 10 years.

 

There's 3 sitting days before Christmas, and 3 weeks after to get the deal scrutinised and through both houses. Not enough time. 

 

But you still believe brexit will be done by Christmas. Why do you think Boris wants the election? So he can blame it on not leaving on 31st January. 

 

A mess of his own making, blamed on everyone else as usual. 

 

If he'd have given Parliament the time they wanted to scrutinise the WAB, we'd have had it done by now. 

 

It's as if Boris doesn't want us to leave 

[@Lee]

Don't election topics usually get locked from polling day until after the polls close at 10pm?
Seem to remember that from on here somewhere. There's always the referendum thread  

[gadgetman]

1 minute ago, Lee_Esq said:

Don't election topics usually get locked from polling day until after the polls close at 10pm?
Seem to remember that from on here somewhere. There's always the referendum thread  

Good idea. 

[john999boy]

[moley]

I wonder if Diane Abbott has found a pair of matching shoes yet? 🤔 

[Guest BigJase88]

Good looking prediction polls.

 

looking positive

[CWARD]

Exit poll is in and it looks really bad

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50765773

 

for Corbyn 🤣
 

 

Edited 12 December, 2019 by CWARD

[moley]

If the exit polls are correct it's 'Taxi for Corbyn' 

[Guest BigJase88]

Just now, CWARD said:

Exit poll is in and it looks like really bad

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50765773

Looks really good.

 

brexit will be happening too. 🙂

[Skoda_newby]

FK yeah!!!!

[Guest BigJase88]

I didn’t even vote had to work away at last minute 🤣

[Skoda_newby]

Just now, BigJase88 said:

Looks really good.

 

brexit will be happening too. 🙂

 

Looks awesome.