We are shocked to discover our 7 year old Yeti requires a new engine costing £4K. I’ve read about the Skoda Octavia having engine problems with some reference that the Yeti could have the same. We were so impressed with the motor trade reviews when the Yeti was launched that we bought it new, in good faith, at a cost of around £27k. It has been serviced regularly and only has 90k on the clock. I see that some owners have challenged Skoda about this failure and cost of repair and would appreciate any help or advice. Thank you in advance 

Welcome.

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Sorry i never read title correctly.  So is it a 1.8 TSI engine?   you will not get much help from Skoda UK.

Do you really need a new engine?  Do not give a Skoda Main Dealer the job to do.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/266114-18tsi-and-20tsi-engine-failures

 

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The issue was with 1.2 TSI pre 2012 and the revised engine parts with Roomster, Fabia and others including the Yeti & Octavia.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/344005-12tsi-cam-chain-problem

 

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Has your Yeti been getting Main Dealership servicing and were you never made aware by the employees of a TPI covering the timing chain and tensioner and an updated version?

 

Edited 14 January, 20206 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

Thank you for coming back to me. It’s been serviced by local garage as nearby Skoda dealership was not renewed. No one made us aware of there being an issue? 

4k for a new engine is insane in a 7 year old car, please don't take it to a dealer or even entertain the idea of a brand new engine. Your car is basically a write off if you go down that route.

 

Get your local trusted mechanic, or a VW specialist to source and fit you a reconditioned engine.

 

 

A quick search on ebay shows 1.8 tsi engines going for £1k - £1.5k with guarantees. You should expect to pay no more than 2k all in for this. Perhaps 2.2k absolute tops.

Edited 15 January, 20206 yr by Shaunieboy
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Have your engine rebuilt, do not join the Lottery of rebuilt engines even with a guarantee unless the mechanic fitting the engine knows the supplier and has trust in them.

There are too many dodgy engines and sellers about.

Well you makes your choices etc but either way, a new one from a dealer is not the way to go

Thank you both so much. I’m not mechanical minded and am having to learn fast. It was serviced by Skoda for first 3 years, then local trusted garage. Now back with Skoda who have quoted 4K. Will use your info to take this up with HQ and dealership. Very grateful for your advice. 

It's a horrible situation to be in Karen, especially if you're not clued up.

 

Its very easy to get the credit card out and just suck it up for a lot of people, and dealers know this.

 

It may seem daunting to go down the other route, but honestly, an engine in/out or a rebuild is really bread and butter for a good mechanic. A few phone calls and some quotes are in order.

 

Fingers crossed for you

Thanks again. 

A New Engine coming from VW does come with a 2 year warranty when you or warranty underwriters are paying for it.

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/452890-yeti-18tsi-brand-new-engine-a-success-story

 

Hello, very useful article. Thank you. I don’t think it’s reasonable to have to pay for a new engine after 7 years of careful driving with full service history. I’m interested in the Sale of a Goods Act and the Consumer Rights Act. Really helpful to have some support around this. Thank you 

47 minutes ago, Karenbrewer said:

Hello, very useful article. Thank you. I don’t think it’s reasonable to have to pay for a new engine after 7 years of careful driving with full service history. I’m interested in the Sale of a Goods Act and the Consumer Rights Act. Really helpful to have some support around this. Thank you 

On a 7 year old car even serviced by a Main Dealer you would be highly unlikely to get any financial assistance from Skoda for a failed engine. Serviced by a third party you have no chance. 

Basically the design life of a modern car is 7-8 years so you could argue that it's reached the end of the design life. Doesn't mean it can't be repaired ad infinitum but, sadly, good money after bad is staring you in the face!!

Oh! Disappointing if that’s the case. Doesn’t make sense buying new if you don’t get a lot longer out of it without big bills. Previous Golf lasted 14 years, and only hit big bills after 200k. 
 

guess you win done and lose some. 

1 hour ago, Karenbrewer said:

Oh! Disappointing if that’s the case. Doesn’t make sense buying new if you don’t get a lot longer out of it without big bills. Previous Golf lasted 14 years, and only hit big bills after 200k. 
 

guess you win done and lose some. 

Precisely, I've had new cars that lasted 10+ years without problems and others that started giving problems at 6+ years. Modern cars are generally very reliable but expensive to repair when they start going wrong, complex technology doesn't come cheap!

That's why it's best to trade in for a new car after 5-6 years if you can afford to. You have just been very unlucky and it could have happened with any make, my old Skoda sold to my neighbour is still going strong after 14 years and 200k miles.

Get a quote from a good independent garage for the repair and I bet it will be much less than £4k. and you may well be okay for another few years of happy motoring.

Edited 15 January, 20206 yr by Expatman

This is not some Snagging Faults.

It is Euro 5 TSI's and Fundamental design of engine components, manufacturing or materials. 

There were lemon, 1.2,1.4, 1.8 & 2.0 TSI's with Chain / Tensioner failings and Rings / Scrapers & Pistons, and also Water Pumps and Valves.

Globally that is.

 

http://theguardian.com/money/2018/aug/11/engine-failure-left-vw-owners-picking-up-a-surprise-6700-bill

 

http://shine.com.au/service/class-actions/audi-skoda-volkswagen-class-action

If you are in Countries like Australia, USA, China where VW Group get torn a new one legally they accept the issue was their failings.

Their the Authorities and Courts are not scared to call it as it is.

Edited 15 January, 20206 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

 

1.8 TSI EA888 Engine.

http://engineswork.com/engines/volkswagen-engine/1-8-tsi-ea888-engine.html

 

Thank you both. I aim to pursue this for my own satisfaction, if nothing else. All of the information is really, really helpful. 
 

worth checking to see if you can get legal advice either via an existing policy you already have or maybe a solicitor that would take it on via a no win no fee basis. 

Hello and yes, thank you for that. I do think I can get some legal advice with my car insurer. 

Here is the issue.

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Who would you take legal action against with this 7 year old if you are in England / Wales,  or Scotland, or Northern Ireland.

 

The Dealership who supplied the car.

Skoda UK that imported the car.

Skoda CZ that built the car.

VW Group who might have designed and built the engine.

I don't know, that's why you take legal advice? Worth a shot rather than blindly shelling out £4k?

I do know. 

There were owners in Scotland of TSI engine cars that were out of Warranty but under 7 years old that got satisfaction with claims to Skoda UK without going to court.

They had the Specialist Engineers Report and were prepared to take action against Skoda UK as the Importer. 

They knew after all there were fundamental failures with 1.4 TSI 132 kw Twincharger engines between 2010-2012 and then even after the Engine production was discontinued in 2012 and new components and engine management used & the revised engine used up to 2014.

Various attempts at Breather Mods, Software Updates, Oil Spray Jets, again software updates yet never a Service Campaign / Recall Action or even admission to owners that they knew of the issues.

 

Skoda UK would have put to the court they were not the ones that should be in court.

That is what VW Group would do and has done.

Issue in a Scottish Civil Court would be if the Defendants had to put an Expert up to defend their actions and they had to release figures of Vehicles Produced, 

Imported, sold and that had failed under warranty or that had had claims against out of warranty.

Then, how many warranty repaired or replaced engines had then failed again.

Edited 15 January, 20206 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

Invaluable. Albeit complicated. It’s not in my dna to not put up a fight, so will think about the next course of action. Thank you all. A great community for helping me out. 

Is the car still running and driveable?

 

Is the symptom high oil consumption, or is the damage more advanced i.e. the engine has failed / broken down?

 

Have we determined it is the 1.8 TSI engine?